[Histonet] semen analysis

2009-02-11 Thread Anne van Binsbergen
who out there is using automation for semen analysis and what equipment is recommended? i am considering the SQA-V from MES what say you? cheers -- Anne van Binsbergen (Hope) Abu Dhabi UAE ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu

[Histonet] Reagent Labeling Policy

2009-02-11 Thread Scott, Allison D
Does anyone have a reagent labeling policy that they would be willing to share. Thanks in advance Allison Scott HT(ASCP) Histology Supervisor LBJ Hospital Houston, Texas 77026 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail

[Histonet] Re: Histonet Digest, Vol 63, Issue 13

2009-02-11 Thread AWeiss
I do FNA biospy and adequacy at bedside with radiologists and pulmonary docs I use 88173 this includes tech component. Is anyone aware of a CPT code for a Tech assisted bone marrow aspiration and biopsy? From time to time we have been helping the Oncologist and Radiologist on these procedures.

[Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Steven Coakley
Any thoughts or experiences with my fellow HT/HTL's(ASCP).  What the big advantage do all these facilities think there gaining by going with unregistered techs, especially when theres always ongoing quality issues when theres so many trained certified HT looking for work?  In my area of the

[Histonet] brain sections falling off slides during IHC

2009-02-11 Thread Thurby, Christina
Hello all, Can any of you all with experience immunostaining brain sections please help. My sections are almost completely washing off the slides. I am using 10% NBF fixed canine brain sections. Embedded in paraffin and sectioned at 4 microns on plus slides with distilled water in the water

Re: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Rene J Buesa
A hospital that relies on uncertified techs to do histology work is motivated by the pursue of costs cuts (you can call it greed!) and shows total disregard for quality of work and patient care. They may end losing all those savings when settling a legal case. René J. --- On Wed, 2/11/09,

RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Mary Abosso
Many areas have to go to unregistered techs out of necessity due to the high vacancy rate in our field since the ASCP made changes to the career path for the HT board requirements. Many of these facilities have either formal or informal training and have turned out many very good, high quality

Re: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread J. Fernandez
What does quality issues have to do with anything ,Many certifieds have quality issues as well,It's knowledge and skill that matters.You can go on all day with this ,but in the end it's can you get it done,available techs etc.I think it's important to have the best of both worlds. On Wed,

[Histonet] RE: brain sections falling off slides during IHC

2009-02-11 Thread Watson, Linda
Just to add to Christina, Try Gold Plus Slides-Thermo Shandon (previously Erie Scientific). Linda -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet- boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Linke, Noelle Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:12 AM

Re: [Histonet] brain sections falling off slides during IHC

2009-02-11 Thread TF
Hi, my experience is to use lower concentration gel-coated slides or pre-coated slide purchased from company...dont use home made one if you want to improve. second, the heating procedure shortly after mounting the frozen sections onto slides does not help a lot. My way: mounting sections

RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Morken, Tim
Uh oh, here we goagain! It's just demand and economics in most areas. In the San Francisco area good luck finding a certified tech. They can command 70K with minimal experience, which is what Kaiser and the UC medical center are paying. I know one woman who was working for a service lab

[Histonet] Uncertified Techs

2009-02-11 Thread Breeden, Sara
Strangely enough (but not entirely unexpectedly), beauticians and barbers in this State must be licensed. Histotechs? Nope. Sally Breeden, HT(ASCP) NM Dept. of Agriculture Veterinary Diagnostic Services PO Box 4700 Albuquerque, NM 87106 505-841-2576

RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Rene J Buesa
Tom: All you have written is understandable EXCEPT that it doesn't take an advanced degree to do histology, that reflects the old assumption that if you know how to cook or to knit you can do histology. That is an unacceptable position now when patient care should be a major concern. I agree

RE: [Histonet] Uncertified Techs

2009-02-11 Thread Horn, Hazel V
I'm fairly certain all hair dressers are licensed. Hazel Horn Hazel Horn, HT/HTL (ASCP) Supervisor of Histology Arkansas Children's Hospital 1 Children's WaySlot 820 Little Rock, AR 72202 phone 501.364.4240 fax501.364.3155 visit us on the web at:www.archildrens.org

[Histonet] RE: Reagent Labeling Policy

2009-02-11 Thread Swain, Frances L
Our reagent labeling policy is this. When you prepare a reagent for use such as a buffer. The type of buffer is the first line, with the pH. The second line tells what date it was prepared, if there was an expiration date and the third line is the person who prepared it. When we receive new

[Histonet] uncertified techs

2009-02-11 Thread Steven Coakley
Thanks for all the input.  So why am I wasting my cash paying the $45 for an ascp sticker? 15 years ago I suppose I should have taken the extra time to become at least an MLT. Oh well.   Thanks again ya all.  :)   Steve ___ Histonet mailing list

[Histonet] brain sections falling off slides during IHC

2009-02-11 Thread Perry, Margaret
A few years ago we also had this problem. The brains were terrible. We found that changing our processing chemicals, especially the wax, more frequently got rid of most of our problems. We use Fisher plus slides. There is a difference in plus slides. I recommend you contact several

[Histonet] Off topic - professional licenses.

2009-02-11 Thread Jackie M O'Connor
Wow. My last hair stylist/colorist and I obviously did not share the same vision of what my hair should look like. I wonder what governing body licenses hairdressers, and what is the criteria? How many of them have college? Soon in Illinois you will have to have a license to breed

RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Pamela Marcum
I am sorry I seemed to have expanded this discussion. I want to be clear on part of the record. I was OJT trained in the 60's. We had even fewer schools and options then. The person who trained me had been trained by the pathologist and the Ann Preece book in histology. She knew what the

RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Horn, Hazel V
I agree with you 100% Tom. No flames here. Hazel Horn Hazel Horn, HT/HTL (ASCP) Supervisor of Histology Arkansas Children's Hospital 1 Children's WaySlot 820 Little Rock, AR 72202 phone 501.364.4240 fax501.364.3155 visit us on the web at:www.archildrens.org

Re: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread DDittus787
Well Tom they can throw me on the fire with you!!! I agree I came thru an MT program ,OJT for Histology (some MT stuff helped) got my Bachelors later and finally got my MBA- but I have been working a great deal with the new grads from colleges and while they are very nice, I have to say

Re: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Larry Woody
It's not about if OTJ techs are better or worse than certified techs, it's about unifying the field and certification is one way to do that. As it stands now we are in a divided field of expertise where some places have a total lack of respect for anyone working in histology and other places go

RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Blazek, Linda
If a histo tech knows how to do most everything in the clinical lab but is not an MT, should they be allowed to work there? -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of ddittus...@aol.com Sent:

RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Tom McNemar
Linda, I don't think its the same thing. Lab is so automated these days. I worked in a lab back when we did counts by hand and chemistries by actual chemistry. Today it's all instrumentation. In histology, although automation is coming slowly, the work (at least in the smaller histo labs)

[Histonet] Sections coming off of slides

2009-02-11 Thread Kathleen Roberts
Hi all, I just had a professor come to me asking if I had any tricks to rescue a section that is partially off its slide. This is formalin-fixed, paraffin embedded mouse brain, and one section on one slide is half attached and half floating after antigen retrieval for IHC (no, I don't know

[Histonet] Licensure/Certification

2009-02-11 Thread Breeden, Sara
Don't get me wrong... I'm OJT-trained. I just think that we, as histotechs doing a very critical and important job, need to be interested enough in our career/profession that licensure/certification is the goal of our training. I just can't figure out why someone that cuts my hair has to be

RE: [Histonet] Uncertified Techs

2009-02-11 Thread J. Fernandez
Then go be a hair dresser,comparing one career to another is not the same balance. On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Horn, Hazel V wrote: I'm fairly certain all hair dressers are licensed. Hazel Horn Hazel Horn, HT/HTL (ASCP) Supervisor of Histology Arkansas Children's Hospital 1 Children's WaySlot

Re: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread J. Fernandez
Ditto On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, ddittus...@aol.com wrote: Well Tom they can throw me on the fire with you!!! I agree I came thru an MT program ,OJT for Histology (some MT stuff helped) got my Bachelors later and finally got my MBA- but I have been working a great deal with the new grads from

Re: [Histonet] Certified Techs Defense

2009-02-11 Thread Kristen Yaros
Ok, I'll get in on this one too. And I'm sure I'll get blasted... but anyways (is it Friday yet?)... Why is everyone fussing SO MUCH about techs who went the school route? Why do people seem to portray the impression that we can't do the work? (and I quote I would prefer to have someone who can

[Histonet] fixation

2009-02-11 Thread maureen bukhari
Does anyone know if it is possible to fix tissue for IPX in the unbuffered zinc formalin and then put it on a processor (after it is completely fixed) with 10% NBF. Will this undo exactly what you are trying to do? i.e. expose the antigenic sites Thanx Maureen

[Histonet] Certified techs and so on...

2009-02-11 Thread Strauss, Rich
My 2 cents, I have both hired certified and OJT in house trained and else where trained; I personally appreciate the mix. The experience hands show the new educated minds the manual skills and to quote an old old mentor of mine they either have skills or they don't I can remember having

RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread O'Donnell, Bill
Got your back on tis one, Tom. I came up through MT then OJT histo. Yes, the education helped. I have since trained a number of techs who have gone on to complete their registry. Most did well for themselves. Makes me proud. I admit it was always easier to train a person with an AS or BS. And

Re: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Caroline Miller
Thank you for an interesting conversation on this matter. I am sorry, I am sure this issue has come up before, but I am new to the list and therefore this is the first time I have seen it. I used to run a clinical lab in the UK 5 years ago (before moving to San Francisco for a research

RE: [Histonet] RE: uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Jodie Robertson
I've been listening to this and there's so much controversy. The real bottom line of this is work ethics. It really doesn't matter if you have a degree or not. You have to work, and work hard to prove yourself. I'm proud to be OJT. I worked hard for my certification. I didn't have the theory

RE: [Histonet] RE: uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Bartlett, Jeanine (CDC/CCID/NCZVED)
Jodie, I agree, but a good program cannot be beat. I had 2 years of college back in the early 1970's and then attended a 12 month accredited histology program. I passed my registry and have been in this field ever since. However, it was not until I went back and complete my degree (just a

RE: [Histonet] Sakura Glas Coverslipper and Xylene Sub

2009-02-11 Thread Ingles Claire
We use propar for a xylene substitute and refrax as a mountant. These are sold by Anatech and are created to be more compatable than propar and permount. We have used permount in the past with the propar though. We don't have any problems on our coverslipper, and they seem to dry faster. Claire

Begging for a skilled, certified HT (was Re: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Daniel Schneider
Where I come from, trained certified histotechs are rare as hen's teeth, and the work is looking for them. We employ OJT's because we have no alternatives. I wish our lab was 100% ASCP certified, program trained HT's. In all seriousness, my group could use some trained certified histotechs. If

RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Ingles Claire
No, it's called we have a NURSE as a histology lab manager (outpatient clinic). She doesn't know what should and should not be done. We are even grossing the dermatology specimens (without extra pay, mind you). Some of us know what the quality level should be and try to exceed that level on a

RE: [Histonet] RE: uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Weems, Joyce
Ok... I have to put in my 2 cents.. Bottom line... The other laboratory disciplines must be schooled, trained, and certified. Histologists were not required in the beginning because we don't make diagnoses and pathologists could teach us and not have to pay us as much. That has caused a lack of

[Histonet] uncertified histotechs

2009-02-11 Thread Cathy Boyd
wow!  I've been sitting here reading these opinions and had to get my 35 years worth.  I was a histotech long before I was a certified histotech.  After 25 years of doing histology, I decided to get my certification for my own gratification, however in doing so it also made quit a difference in

[Histonet] PAS/Alcian Blue

2009-02-11 Thread thisisann
Can someone tell me what control tissue you use when you run a PAS/Alc. Blue (not separately, but together) Thanks, Ann ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu http://lists.utsouthwestern.edu/mailman/listinfo/histonet

[Fwd: Re: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology]

2009-02-11 Thread Victor Tobias
I forgot to send this to the group. Original Message Subject:Re: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:07:41 -0800 From: Victor Tobias vic...@pathology.washington.edu To: Podawiltz, Thomas tpodawi...@lrgh.org References:

RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread McCormick, James
Dear Ms.Marcum, Congratulations to you for your accomplishments, and they are many. And, to everyone else in Histoland that has grown with OJTafter all it's experience on the job that provides the opportunity to learn. Certification is a method of finding the finish line of the path

[Histonet] Sections coming off of slides

2009-02-11 Thread Amos Brooks
Hi, There is a product that is carried by Newcomer Supply called Liquid Coverslip. You can use this to coverslip the slide, wait for it to cure, then soak it in warm water and float the coverslip with the attached coverslip off. Then pick the section/coverslip up on a slide that you have more

[Histonet] Re: certified vs. uncertified techs

2009-02-11 Thread Shelly Coker
I am a supporter of certification as a goal.  I have no problem with anyone who is OJT and took their exam.  The goal of having everyone certified is to have a standardization so that we don't have such a disparity in pay.  I can tell you that I have worked at a hospital where the difference in

[Histonet] Old Ventana Tech Mate IHC stainer looking for parts unit

2009-02-11 Thread John O'Brien
Does anyone have or knows of a old Ventana Tech Mate 1000 IHC stainer that we can buy for the parts.Please let me know ,I can send pictures of what it looks like if need be. ___ Histonet mailing list Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu

Re: [Histonet] Re: certified vs. uncertified techs

2009-02-11 Thread Larry Woody
Finally, someone else gets the point of unifying the field of histology. Thank you Shelly. It really isn't about where you were trained or went to school or not. Once we are standardized we are stronger in many ways that will help us all. Larry A. Woody Seattle, Wa.

Re: [Histonet] Antibody penetration problem

2009-02-11 Thread TF
just add up to 2% triton in antibody dilution and increase the incubation time. another way is to use floating sections. 2009-02-12 TF 发件人: Amos Brooks 发送时间: 2009-02-12 08:11:23 收件人: grudow1; histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 抄送: 主题: [Histonet] Antibody penetration problem Hi

RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology

2009-02-11 Thread Weems, Joyce
Bravo!!! -Original Message- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of McCormick, James Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:31 PM To: Pamela Marcum; 'Martin,Gary'; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE:

[Histonet] HALT

2009-02-11 Thread brian
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[Histonet] automated systems

2009-02-11 Thread Anne van Binsbergen
Dear Histonetters this is a plea for technical advice from end-users - who out there is using automation for semen analysis and what equipment do you recommend? i am considering the SQA-V from MES any comments -- Anne van Binsbergen (Hope) Abu Dhabi UAE