Where is the fence??? It looks like a P---ing match between dogs. We ALL
worked hard on our certification no matter how we got it. And due to the
shortage I assume we ALL work hard now. Fast or slow matters not. Histology,
good histology needs many talents such as; scientific knowledge,
troublesho
'Ingles Claire '; 'Histonet'
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
A rat's patoot? Is that like a rodent's behind?
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ingles
Clair
A rat's patoot? Is that like a rodent's behind?
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Ingles
Claire
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 4:59 PM
To: Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Prac
Hey, I thought WE were the lowest phylum.(at least as far as most respect goes)
:)
Claire
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu on behalf of Esther Peters
Sent: Fri 2/20/2009 5:08 PM
To: O'Donnell, Bill
Cc: Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Prac
rk you know.
I'm so glad I only have to deal with one fellow a year now. They are much
better to begin with.
Claire
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu on behalf of Pamela Marcum
Sent: Fri 2/20/2009 3:11 PM
To: 'Podawiltz, Thomas'; rjbu..
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of O'Donnell, Bill
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:01 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
If, indeed, these were the two primary reasons for el
onet;
Rittman, Barry R
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
Peggy,
You make good, sound points. Thank you.
William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.
-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee & Peggy Wenk
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:13 PM
To: rjbu...@yahoo.com; 'Victor Tobias'; 'Histonet'; 'Rittman, Barry R'
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
Long answer - skip if not interested. Am responding to several (many) emails,
ll, Bill'; 'Histonet'
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
We would need more histologists presence in the office for that and not the
"business people" running it now for shows.
Pamela A Marcum
University of Pennsylvania
School of Veterinary Medicine
Comparative
Joe:
Not enough programs = not enough techs = not enough MONEY, or the whole way
around starting with "not enough money" (Show me the money!)
René J.
--- On Sun, 2/22/09, JoeNocito wrote:
From: JoeNocito
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
To: lpw...@sbcglobal.net, rjbu...
utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Lee & Peggy
Wenk
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:13 PM
To: rjbu...@yahoo.com; 'Victor Tobias'; 'Histonet'; 'Rittman, Barry R'
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
Long answer - skip if not in
ere is probably a lot of pressure on
histology supervisors and managers, but it is not doing anyone any favors by
keeping this scenerio going.
Thanks Peggy
Joelle Weaver HTL (ASCP)
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> To: rjbu...@yahoo.com; vic...@pathology.washington.edu; ;
> barr
pitals.com]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:00 PM
To: Bill O'Donnell; Esther Peters
Cc: Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Practical Exam
It is up to each individual institution to "test" a new hire for their
competency. We are lucky to have both an HT and HTL program at our hospital
spital
Royal Oak, MI 48073
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 9:01 AM
To: Victor Tobias; Histonet; Rittman, Barry R
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical
O'Donnell; Esther Peters
Cc: Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Practical Exam
It is up to each individual institution to "test" a new hire for their
competency. We are lucky to have both an HT and HTL program at our hospital so
when we hire a graduating student we already know th
It is up to each individual institution to "test" a new hire for their
competency. We are lucky to have both an HT and HTL program at our hospital so
when we hire a graduating student we already know their work habits and skill
level. If I do hire someone from the outside, they have 90 days th
SCP) QIHC
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847
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From: Pamela Marcum [mailto:pmar...@vet.upenn.edu]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:11 PM
To: 'Podawiltz, Thomas'; rjbu...@yahoo.com; 'Histonet'; O'
an Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847
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From: Pamela Marcum [mailto:pmar...@vet.upenn.edu]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:11 PM
To: 'Podawiltz, Thomas'; rjbu...@yahoo.com; 'Histonet'; O'Donnell, Bill
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical
o:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of O'Donnell,
Bill
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 4:17 PM
To: rjbu...@yahoo.com; Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
Rene,
Ouch!!!
Lighten up!
I never accepted or condoned cheating! Of course it is immoral! Only a
etter rested on Monday).
William (Bill) O'Donnell, HT (ASCP) QIHC
Lead Histologist
Good Samaritan Hospital
10 East 31st Street
Kearney, NE 68847
From: Rene J Buesa [mailto:rjbu...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 2:37 PM
To: Histonet; O'Donnel
3:57 PM
To: rjbu...@yahoo.com; Histonet; O'Donnell, Bill
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
Rene, I can't and won't put words into Bill's mouth, especially since we
have known each other for almost 30 years, but I think his question was, was
there really a problem with people
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[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rittman, Barry R
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:37 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
Rene
I have always regarded the mechanism of sending slides
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
To: "rjbu...@yahoo.com" , "Histonet"
, "O'Donnell, Bill"
Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 3:56 PM
Rene, I can't and won't put words into Bill's mouth, especially
since we have known each other for almost 30 yea
Friday, February 20, 2009 3:36 PM
To: Histonet; O'Donnell, Bill
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
Bill:
In my time when you accepted somebody else doing YOUR job and YOU being
remunerated or accredited for it was called CHEATING and that is a moral
turpitude issue, and really a problem
on will do it for us.
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 3:33 PM
To: Histonet; Rittman, Barry R
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
Barry:
Don
09, Swain, Frances L wrote:
From: Swain, Frances L
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
To: "O'Donnell, Bill" , "Histonet"
Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 11:21 AM
There has been reference to someone else taking the practical exam instead of
the applicant. Since the
ll, Bill wrote:
From: O'Donnell, Bill
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
To: "Histonet"
Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 11:00 AM
If, indeed, these were the two primary reasons for eliminating the practical
exam, they are weak and lazy reasons. An increase in the fee to appl
venue, although it will be an extremely difficult proposition.
René J.
--- On Fri, 2/20/09, Rittman, Barry R wrote:
From: Rittman, Barry R
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
To: "Histonet"
Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 10:36 AM
Rene
I have always regarded the mechanism of sending
tonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Chiriboga,
Luis
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:53 AM
To: rjbu...@yahoo.com; Swain, Frances L; O'Donnell, Bill; Histonet; Pamela
Marcum
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
that's because its American
13 PM
To: 'Swain, Frances L'; 'O'Donnell, Bill'; 'Histonet'; Pamela Marcum
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
I can give you all 100:1 handicap that this will not happen, ever!
René J.
--- On Fri, 2/20/09, Pamela Marcum wrote:
From: Pamela Marcum
Subject: R
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From: Rene J Buesa [mailto:rjbu...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:13 PM
To: 'Swain, Frances L'; 'O'Donnell, Bill'; 'Histonet'; Pamela Marcum
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
I can give you al
I can give you all 100:1 handicap that this will not happen, ever!
René J.
--- On Fri, 2/20/09, Pamela Marcum wrote:
From: Pamela Marcum
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
To: "'Swain, Frances L'" , "'O'Donnell, Bill'"
, "'Histonet&
0-925-6278
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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Swain,
Frances L
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:22 AM
To: O'Donnell, Bill; Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
There has been reference
utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:01 AM
To: Victor Tobias; Histonet; Rittman, Barry R
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
There were 2 fundamental reasons why ASCP eliminated the practical part of
the ex
o: Victor Tobias; Histonet; Rittman, Barry R
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
There were 2 fundamental reasons why ASCP eliminated the practical part of the
examination:
1- they got to the conclusion that there was no way to determine if the person
sending the slides was the one who really
-Original Message-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of O'Donnell, Bill
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:01 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
If, indeed, these were the two primary reason
, February 20, 2009 9:37 AM
To: Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
Rene
I have always regarded the mechanism of sending slides in to be a big flaw in
the practical, it it did offer some standardization. cannot accept the cost
logic.
The real question here is why is the ASCP running this
hwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rene J Buesa
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 8:01 AM
To: Victor Tobias; Histonet; Rittman, Barry R
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
There were 2 fundamental reasons why ASCP eliminated the practical part of the
examination:
1- they got to t
or to gather the
reviewers to qualify the sections, so they decided to eliminate the practical
and made the changes we have now (renewal and CEU).
René J.
--- On Thu, 2/19/09, Rittman, Barry R wrote:
From: Rittman, Barry R
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
To: "Victor Tobias" , &q
...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Rittman,
Barry R
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:30 PM
To: Victor Tobias; Histonet
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
Victor
I cannot believe that you have said this.
Although I did not think that
gather the
reviewers to qualify the sections, so they decided to eliminate the practical
and made the changes we have now (renewal and CEU).
René J.
--- On Thu, 2/19/09, Rittman, Barry R wrote:
From: Rittman, Barry R
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Practical Exam
To: "Victor Tobias" , "H
ssage-
From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Victor Tobias
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 5:34 PM
To: Rittman, Barry R
Cc: Histonet
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Practical Exam
Barry,
I agree with your statement,
What is rea
Barry,
I agree with your statement,
What is really needed is a national standardized written and practical test
that is administered by NSH.
Victor Tobias
Clinical Applications Analyst
University of Washington Medical Center
Dept of Pathology Room BB220
1959 NE Pacific
Seattle, WA 98195
vic...
Victor
I cannot believe that you have said this.
Although I did not think that the practical examination was the ultimate test
of skill , it did at least provide some uniformity.
With an extension of the logic that you use it is just as easy to allow the
pathologist to certify that the technicia
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