RE: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-20 Thread Alfred Reynolds
05 11:37 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean? > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Yeah, sprout, you > missed the point of the entire thread!!! > > On 5/21/05, sprout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-20 Thread Hexis
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Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-20 Thread Whisper
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Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-20 Thread sprout
country and western? did I miss something? - Original Message - From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean? -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] We like both typ

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-20 Thread Whisper
rking on getting a duel processor > computer) that should fix alot of my problems with low fps > - Original Message - > From: "Ian mu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 3:09 AM > Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really m

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-20 Thread sprout
: Friday, May 20, 2005 3:09 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean? Out of interest, how much cpu do others think a 40 slot game server would take when fully loaded? Not sure if you said what spec the CPUs are. I'd probably guess its about right (can't be "tha

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-20 Thread Whisper
at the FPS though... it drops, right? > > > And maybe the stats command stress the CPU or HLDS? :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisp

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-20 Thread Ian mu
> > Look at the FPS though... it drops, right? > > And maybe the stats command stress the CPU or HLDS? :-) > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper > > Sent: 20. mai 2005 06:05 > > To

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-19 Thread Whisper
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper > Sent: 20. mai 2005 06:05 > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean? > > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Clayton the sampling m

RE: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-19 Thread Alexander Kobbevik
Look at the FPS though... it drops, right? And maybe the stats command stress the CPU or HLDS? :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper Sent: 20. mai 2005 06:05 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-19 Thread Clayton Macleod
heh, like I said, obviously I'm guessing as to what's going on. Calm down :P On 5/19/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Clayton the sampling might be correct, but how would that explain the > results I get when I spam "rcon stats" into

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-19 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Clayton the sampling might be correct, but how would that explain the results I get when I spam "rcon stats" into console and receive numbers that are all within 10% of each other? Here is exmple: 14:03:37 stats 14:03:37 CPU In Out Uptime Users

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-19 Thread Clayton Macleod
true, but you have to sample for a certain period of time to get a percentage reading. Obviously I'm just guessing that the period that the game's using is shorter than the period that task manager uses, but it would seem to make sense considering the observations. Why would that be so hard to acce

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-19 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Well it is not like anybody has stepped up and stated categorically what it really means and is able to explain the discrepancies between the 2 that a critically thinking human being would accept. On 5/20/05, Clayton Macleod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-19 Thread Clayton Macleod
The sampling period for Task Manager is an entire second. Just seems to me that the stats command here is using a much shorter sampling period, no? Seems like a fairly long conversation for almost no reason, sorry :) On 5/19/05, Ian mu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yep but you have 2 physical CPUs

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-19 Thread Ian mu
Yep but you have 2 physical CPUs no? (lost track a bit) On 5/19/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > For one physical CPU thats about right. HT is turned *OFF* so we are > definitely measuring physical CPU usage. > __

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-19 Thread Whisper
; > > > the > > > > > > data from are going to be more accurate than anything a > third-party > > > app > > > > > > (read: valve) is going to put out. That's why I said 'hey > fellas, > > > learn > > > > >

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-19 Thread Ian mu
out. That's why I said 'hey fellas, > > learn > > > > how > > > > > to use MRTG' ;-) > > > > > > > > > > Good site to check out to get the required MIB's for win32 and also > > > > how-to's > > > > > on

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-19 Thread Whisper
learn > > > how > > > > to use MRTG' ;-) > > > > > > > > Good site to check out to get the required MIB's for win32 and also > > > how-to's > > > > on how to get everything setup - > > > http://www.wtcs.org/snmp4tpc/def

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-19 Thread Ian mu
in32 and also > > how-to's > > > on how to get everything setup - > > http://www.wtcs.org/snmp4tpc/default.htm > > > > > > - K2 > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-18 Thread Whisper
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of m0gely > > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:02 AM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean? > > > > K2 wrote: > > > > > Learn how to use MRTG fellas... That's abo

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-12 Thread Ian mu
; -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of m0gely > Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 9:02 AM > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean? > > K2 wrote: > > > Learn

RE: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-12 Thread K2
ject: Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean? K2 wrote: > Learn how to use MRTG fellas... That's about as accurate as it gets. nuff > said ;-) > > http://bubba.hardfought.org/mrtg/67.19.85.2_cpu.html > > - K2 MRTG is only a graphing app. It needs to have somethi

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-12 Thread m0gely
K2 wrote: Learn how to use MRTG fellas... That's about as accurate as it gets. nuff said ;-) http://bubba.hardfought.org/mrtg/67.19.85.2_cpu.html - K2 MRTG is only a graphing app. It needs to have something to tell it what to graph. So whatever script (or via SNMP) you're using to tell MRTG what

RE: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-12 Thread K2
hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean? The problem is hyperthreading is typically pretty good to have on, depending on instances of different servers running on it, as a loose rule of thumb I'd personally have it on if you use more than 1 dedicated

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-12 Thread Ian mu
The problem is hyperthreading is typically pretty good to have on, depending on instances of different servers running on it, as a loose rule of thumb I'd personally have it on if you use more than 1 dedicated server per "real" cpu. So if you use > 2 game servers on a dual, I'd try it on personally

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-12 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] May try then with HT turned off and see what happens. On 5/13/05, Steven Hartland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That is the case Ian is surprising the amount of people who don't > know how to interpret taskman results, ive had many an argument >

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-12 Thread Steven Hartland
That is the case Ian is surprising the amount of people who don't know how to interpret taskman results, ive had many an argument about CPU usage due to this :P Steve / K - Original Message - From: "Ian mu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just wondering as a 40 player server will naturally take a f

RE: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-12 Thread BattleMaster
rom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 3:12 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean? -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] 18:10:18 stats 18:10:18 CPU In Out Uptime Us

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-12 Thread Ian mu
Just wondering as a 40 player server will naturally take a fair bit of juice, could it be that stats shows a usage on a single hyperthreaded cpu (i.e 1/4) and task manager shows the total which isn't quite correct? (ie there isnt really 4 full cpu's). Don't really know windows well enough in how i

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-12 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] 18:10:18 stats 18:10:18 CPU In Out Uptime Users FPS Players 84.38 79225.95 261394.63 1092 19 85.30 40 Yes, it is a 40 player server As I said, task manager it will be showing 10-15% tops no matter what SRCDS says 18:12:41 stats 18:12:41 CPU In

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-12 Thread Ian mu
Is it possible for you to copy/paste the full output you get? On 5/12/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > So I am not alone on this list on not being able to work out what that > number mean? > > On 5/12/05, Renzo Rosales <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-11 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] So I am not alone on this list on not being able to work out what that number mean? On 5/12/05, Renzo Rosales <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wait for a response from Valve. Patience... > > ___ > To unsu

Re: [hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-11 Thread Renzo Rosales
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[hlds] Re: What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean?

2005-05-11 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] So nobody knows This is great On 5/11/05, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What does RCON STATS CPU Really mean? > Does it even work? > The rcon CPU usage will state that the box is using (I don't know, pick a > random double digit numb