Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-10 Thread Mick
: Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! Mick, I'm guessing here, but since you have both hl1 hl2 on the same IP, with hl2 in the later positionit may be cancelling the previous line??? Just to rule that out, since Alfred said that hl1 worked

RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-09 Thread Alexander Kobbevik
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mick Sent: 9. juni 2005 16:11 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! Thanks for the info Alfred, unfortunately I still can't seem to get this working

RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-09 Thread Yeti
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:37 PM To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com' Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! We will look at adding an X-header to the request. - Alfred -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view

RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-09 Thread Rick Payton
/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Yeti Sent: Thu 6/9/2005 6:05 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] For those of us

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-08 Thread Mick
- Original Message - From: Subdude2k [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! The Referer works fine and has been doing so for a while now. I'm using .htaccess files on my Apache web server

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-07 Thread Clayton Macleod
valve already added referer support... On 6/7/05, Spencer 'voogru' MacDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The best way to make sure other servers do not steal your bandwidth with sv_downloadurl is to only allow people to download files that recently connected to the server. (Say, with 20 minutes

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-07 Thread Clayton Macleod
*ahem* On 6/6/05, Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And bam, already done. Each request from Source clients to your web server contains the following line: Referer: hl2://server ip You should be able to use some kind of apache plugin to act upon this information. - Alfred --

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-07 Thread Mikee
I tried Simon's guide and put this in an .htaccess file in the /hlds_downloads/ folder on my website (that contains the /maps/ folder for download), but it did not work when I joined the server, I still got the same player missing map, disconnected me. SetEnfIf Referer

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-07 Thread Clayton Macleod
valve still has to actually release the client with this referer support in it, don't think they've done that yet. So until they do it's kind of hard to react to something that isn't there yet. On 6/7/05, Mikee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried Simon's guide and put this in an .htaccess file in

RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-07 Thread Brandon Hardy
It looks like he made a typo, try replacing SetEnfIf with SetEnvIf. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikee Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 3:47 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! I

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-07 Thread Mikee
several server IP's to all work with this folder? - Original Message - From: Brandon Hardy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 5:05 AM Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! It looks like he made a typo, try replacing SetEnfIf

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-07 Thread Clayton Macleod
of course not, you don't have a client yet that sends the referer. On 6/7/05, Mikee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It still is not working even with that typo corrected -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list

RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-07 Thread Alexander Kobbevik
@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! of course not, you don't have a client yet that sends the referer. On 6/7/05, Mikee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It still is not working even with that typo corrected -- Clayton Macleod

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-07 Thread Clayton Macleod
heh, yeah, and 5 minutes before that he said We will look at adding an X-header to the request. In other words, it wasn't done yet, so he went and got it done. And came back very quickly to say it was done. That doesn't mean we got the client that does that yet, now does it? Nope. But I'm sure it

RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-07 Thread Alexander Kobbevik
someone who use this cvar go into the webserver and just see if it's there in the logs? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clayton Macleod Sent: 7. juni 2005 12:23 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl

RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-07 Thread Rick Payton
PROTECTED] on behalf of Subdude2k Sent: Tue 6/7/2005 2:28 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! The Referer works fine and has been doing so for a while now. I'm using .htaccess files on my Apache web server to only allow access to the hosted maps

RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-07 Thread Richard Vetter
figure it out. /me cries Rick Payton, IT Support Morikawa Associates (808) 572-1745 http://www.mai-hawaii.com/ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Subdude2k Sent: Tue 6/7/2005 2:28 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our

RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-07 Thread Ryan Lewis
Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Payton Sent: 07 June 2005 18:06 To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- so anyone

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-07 Thread Mikee
Order Deny,Allow Allow from env=allow_download Deny from all - Original Message - From: Subdude2k [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! The Referer works fine and has been doing so

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-07 Thread Clayton Macleod
nice, I stand corrected. On 6/7/05, Alexander Kobbevik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Already means that it was done before, but I guess he didn't know. That's why he came back after finding out and told us. He also wrote Each request from Source clients to your web server _contains_ the following

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-07 Thread Subdude2k
Mikee wrote: Subdude2k, your answer finally does work. I really appreciate your posting this, as the SetEnvIf Referrer that Simon said would not work in the .htaccess file. IMHO, every server admin should do this who is using a web based downloadurl that has bandwidth limits. One last

[hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread Dagok
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] This was posted on the Source DS (Windows) team forums. POsting it here in hopes that it will get directly to Valve. ok a little problem is people being able to just type sv_downloadurl in console

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread Mikee
if a player doesn't need to have their own player IP to access it however...which would open it back up to everyone. - Original Message - From: Dagok [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:52 PM Subject: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread Mikee
. This is a big problem, as most websites have limits on monthly bandwidth transfers. - Original Message - From: Mikee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! How would you use

RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread Alfred Reynolds
06, 2005 5:10 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! I just tried what should have worked. I put this .htaccess in the folder on the webserver that has my maps. \root-level\hlds_downloads\.htaccess \root-level\hlds_downloads\maps According

RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread Brandon Hardy
I may be wrong but, I believe that the HL/HL2 sends a header with the server's IP address in it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mikee Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:29 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread Wojciech H
:29 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! How would you use the .htaccess to only allow folder access from a given server IP, since it is basically a web url based access? It is amazing what can be done with that file, so I don't doubt you. Posting how to customize

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread m0gely
Mikee wrote: How would you use the .htaccess to only allow folder access from a given server IP, since it is basically a web url based access? If you restrict it to the server ip then the feature won't work. The client downloads the files, not the server. And since you have no idea what the

RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread Alfred Reynolds
We will look at adding an X-header to the request. - Alfred Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of m0gely Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:26 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! Mikee wrote

RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread Alfred Reynolds
, 2005 5:37 PM To: 'hlds@list.valvesoftware.com' Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! We will look at adding an X-header to the request. - Alfred Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of m0gely Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:26 PM

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread Simon Garner
On 7/06/2005 12:41 p.m., Alfred Reynolds wrote: And bam, already done. Each request from Source clients to your web server contains the following line: Referer: hl2://server ip You should be able to use some kind of apache plugin to act upon this information. - Alfred No special modules

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread Clayton Macleod
I'm quite sure you can handle referer stuff. On 6/6/05, Rick Payton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sweet! Too bad I run IIS :P -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit:

RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread Rick Payton
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! I'm quite sure you can handle referer stuff. On 6/6/05, Rick Payton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sweet! Too bad I run IIS :P -- Clayton Macleod ___ To unsubscribe, edit

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread Dagok
be nice if sv_downloadurl showed ** instead of the URL to the public. Dagok - Original Message - From: Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:41 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! And bam, already done

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread Clayton Macleod
that's still not going to stop anything, it's a simple matter to see what computers your computer makes connections with. Using a referer seems to be the best way to go, and allow/disallow that way. On 6/6/05, Dagok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the initial request has gotten lost in the

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread Ook
Is this really what is happening? People running servers going to other servers and basically pirating the sv_downloarurl for their own server? Sheesh...how low can some people sink? I always wondered why, when I changed my sv_downloadurl, I would keep logging all these requests to the old url.

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread munra
So does this mean it is already Done or do we need to wait for the next update - Original Message - From: Alfred Reynolds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 8:41 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! And bam, already

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread munra
Yes it Really Happens Munra - Original Message - From: Ook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! Is this really what is happening? People running servers going to other servers

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread m0gely
Alfred Reynolds wrote: And bam, already done. Each request from Source clients to your web server contains the following line: Referer: hl2://server ip You should be able to use some kind of apache plugin to act upon this information. While I applaud this response and it finally being done, I

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread m0gely
Alfred Reynolds wrote: And bam, already done. Each request from Source clients to your web server contains the following line: Referer: hl2://server ip You should be able to use some kind of apache plugin to act upon this information. - Alfred We will look at adding an X-header to the

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread Richard Nelson
m0gely wrote: While I applaud this response and it finally being done, I would suggest making the cvar protected as well. Many people probably use a web host that they have only FTP access to, or sometimes cpanel. They will not have access to make modifications to apache itself. I think both

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread Andrew Armstrong
You can still run a packet sniffer and see where its getting the files, if someones that determined. - Original Message - From: m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths! Alfred

Re: [hlds] VALVe hide our sv_downloadurl paths!

2005-06-06 Thread m0gely
Richard Nelson wrote: Hiding the cvar is not useful. If someone really wants to steal your bandwidth, they can use some external tool to see where the requests are going, so while it may stop the average player it won't stop anyone who actually wants to do this. No, but it will stop *a lot*