RE: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-15 Thread Chris Barnett
Valve deliberately made an update to make 32 slot serves unviable. It wasn't some kind of side effect from a feature they wanted to support. That's what the admin community are sick and tired of. Not side effects, but deliberate and intentional acts by Valve to actually break the freakin mods. T

RE: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-14 Thread Mike Munoz
ltering... Mike ParaDOX www.paradisesgarage.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan E Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 12:30 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out? -- [ Picked

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-14 Thread [??R] The-/
Dan E wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Honestly, you are not helping the situation. If you don't like the bickering, there's always the delete button. But, you decided to make matters worse with a rather long (and somewhat redundant) email complaining about people who

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-14 Thread Dan E
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Honestly, you are not helping the situation. If you don't like the bickering, there's always the delete button. But, you decided to make matters worse with a rather long (and somewhat redundant) email complaining about people who are complaini

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-13 Thread 1nsane .
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I see a 32 slot server displaying in the serverlist! :O 70.87.162.59:27015 On 10/13/07, Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man > > Not having 32 player

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-13 Thread Whisper
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man Not having 32 player servers in the STEAM server browser doesn't stop you from running the, nor admining them. On 10/13/07, Tim Renshaw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Doesn't sound like whining to me, its n

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-13 Thread Thomas Morton
John: Note the "(NOT)" in my post.. I totally agree with what you said :) Tim: point is they are being quiet about possibly killing an unauthorized mod. There is obviously a reason that 32 man servers are not wanted - if they don't want to tell people what that is then so be it, the forums are th

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-12 Thread Thomas Morton
Thanks John, As much as I would (NOT) disagree with your tone it's nice to know someone else feels the same way - I never post to here but the info here is invaluable - until Valve post a controversial update and then all low grade hell breaks loose. Kudos mate Tom

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-11 Thread Roman Hatsiev
Process running in the user mode (the game) just cannot cause BSOD by design of operating system, only stuff running in kernel mode (OS ifself or device drivers) can. In this particular case the most probable cause of BSODs is faulty video driver. It IS faulty since regardless of what it is being t

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-11 Thread Valdimar Kristjansson
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I am one of those people and the steam forums is filled with people having the same problems. Cc2iscooL wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Not a single person I've talked

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-11 Thread Cc2iscooL
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Not a single person I've talked to has received any blue screen errors...are you sure you have your facts straight? On 10/11/07, Valdimar Kristjansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And don't think Valve need to worry about people whining about s

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-11 Thread Valdimar Kristjansson
And don't think Valve need to worry about people whining about shoddy coding. Half of the people can't play the Orange Box because of bluescreen errors after the release. And all because of their own coding. nisbus Matthew Cheale wrote: > Plus if there were lots of issues with servers crashing,

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-11 Thread Matthew Cheale
> Plus if there were lots of issues with servers crashing, then those servers > would end up empty, because people would get fed up with the crashes. And everyone would whine about Valve's shoddy coding reducing their reputation and all because of 3rd party modifications... -- With regards, Mat

RE: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-11 Thread Tim Ling
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out? I think the issue here is this is a brand new mod (officially only HOURS old!) and the user experience needs to be uniform and "unpatched" as much as possible so Valve can calibrate the new engine before porting over

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-10 Thread DontWannaName!
, 2007 8:13:53 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out? -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Amen... - Original Message From: Kevin Ottalini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, Octobe

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-10 Thread Robert Whelan
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Amen... - Original Message From: Kevin Ottalini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:35:14 PM Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered ou

RE: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-10 Thread Jason O. Washburn
I fully agree. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Ottalini Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 9:35 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out? I think

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-10 Thread Kevin Ottalini
crash (but it seems ok with 24 players but might be right at the borderline). qUiCkSiLvEr - Original Message - From: "Mike Munoz" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: RE: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out? OUCH!!... To actually go so far a

Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-10 Thread Tim Renshaw
Removing the option for people to decide how many people they would like to play with sucks... The way in which it has been implented sucks even more.. updating the server browser list & not actually borthering to tell us even after the update. We aren't really asking too much to be informed. We

RE: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-10 Thread Mike Munoz
OUCH!!... To actually go so far as to modify the server browser so that it won't list 32 slot TF2 servers! Never mind fixing the issues the server browser has, with various servers not displaying for whatever reasons. They chose to take away our choices. To run as many slots as we see fit, with the

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-10 Thread Robert Whelan
day, October 10, 2007 1:12:40 AM Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out? Andreas Grimm wrote: > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608814 > > I am really disappointed about that, as player and server-hoster ... That is > a bad hit for the comm

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-09 Thread [ЯтR] The-/
Roman Hatsiev wrote: I wish they could do the same to Counter-Strike: Source. On 10/10/2007, "[ЯтR] The-/ wrote: Andreas Grimm wrote: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608814 I am really disappointed about that, as player and server-hoster ... That is a bad hit for the

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-09 Thread Roman Hatsiev
I wish they could do the same to Counter-Strike: Source. On 10/10/2007, "[ЯтR] The-/ wrote: > Andreas Grimm wrote: > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608814 > > > > I am really disappointed about that, as player and server-hoster ... That is > > a bad hit for the community

Re: [hlds] TF2 ... All 32 player servers filtered out?

2007-10-09 Thread [ЯтR] The-/
Andreas Grimm wrote: http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=608814 I am really disappointed about that, as player and server-hoster ... That is a bad hit for the community ... That servers were always full and people loved it ... Without words ... _