Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Jeremy Brooking
Drew Broadley wrote: Cheers :) Any thoughts on having some sort of VAC website, status, statistics, support, suggestions etc ? - Drew I would like to see this also, and am willing to donate what spare time I have to this. Security through obscurity is a myth. __

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Eric Smith
We're considering some options... -Eric -Original Message- From: Drew Broadley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously Cheers :) Any thoughts on having some sort of VAC website, status, statisti

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread [TD]MoD
- Original Message - From: "Eric Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Half-Life Dedicated Linux Server Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 12:39 AM Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously I've asked them to contact you directly about the problem. Let me know

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread [TD]MoD
This e-mail is a digest. > Following the correct developers protocol, Beta = UNSTABLE, in > development, not ready for public use. > Some of us don't update to beta's and wait for the public release. > Such as 3.1.1.1.? "was just bringing this topic into the light again because I had obviously s

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Drew Broadley
> You forgot to open your rant tag. Thus, the entire rant went out as plain text. > > -Mad I swear I forgot to close of one of my rants a while back though ;) - Drew ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visi

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Drew Broadley
Cheers :) Any thoughts on having some sort of VAC website, status, statistics, support, suggestions etc ? - Drew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Smith Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 10:40 a.m. To: Half-Life Dedicated Linux Server Maili

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Mad Scientist
According to the great words of Drew Broadley: > I don't want to sound critical but: [...] > You forgot to open your rant tag. Thus, the entire rant went out as plain text. -Mad -- "A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Eric Smith
I've asked them to contact you directly about the problem. Let me know if you don't hear something in the next couple days. -Eric -Original Message- From: Drew Broadley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, S

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Drew Broadley
I tried this Eric, I still did not get a response. I will indeed be in touch again, thank you for the furthering support! :) - Drew -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Smith Sent: Thursday, 12 June 2003 10:29 a.m. To: Half-Life Dedicated

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Eric Smith
Drew- Make sure you're in contact with our internet café people (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]). If you're having problems with corrupt memory and VAC bans, they can work with you on it. -Eric -Original Message- From: Drew Broadley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:4

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread James Clark
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 10:18:28AM +1200, Jeremy Brooking wrote: > have processes running on the machine to monitor, Drew would be one of > the few people I wouldnt have any doubt in when he says "There have ever > been any cheats on these machines" I believe Drew as well. > though my opinion mea

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Jeremy Brooking
m0gely wrote: Drew Broadley wrote: the computers are locked down and the head desk is notified when an additional program is installed to the machine, in other words, cheats have never touched our internet café computers. I have a spare machine at home that I have CS installed on, and a random

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Drew Broadley
> A server restart should take about 1 min at most while the module downloads. I wish New Zealand had a good International pipe :/ They opened up a new one not too long ago, got flooded straight away by corporate companies that use NZ as a call centre and pretty much saw none of it go to the "litt

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Jeremy Brooking
[TD]MoD wrote: [A bunch of crap] Now I bet youd be the first one here crying if you got banned for something that wasnt your fault. Point to note too, this isnt just drew saying "I personally cannot play CS for a week" this is his Job, his employer loosing money. They either have to go upgrade a

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Drew Broadley
> I have a spare machine at home that I have CS installed on, > and a random choice of OGC I downloaded a while ago. > This is for watching demo's of suspected wall hackers. > I was amazed because the version of OGC I downloaded before > that was like 6 or something when CSG was still around, and i

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Jeremy Brooking
James Clark wrote: - All that having to restart servers after a VAC update. (ending up with 1000 emails asking why 99% of New Zealands Gaming Servers are down and having little IRC sh*t's spamming "I skipped school to play cs now the servers arent even working) A server restart should take about

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Jeremy Brooking
Drew Broadley wrote: I don't want to sound critical but: - Incorrect cheat detection. (banning on of my internet café computers for having a corrupt memory module and continuously displaying from VAC "you are now temporarily banned for a week for having previous cheats installed on this computer"

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread m0gely
Drew Broadley wrote: the computers are locked down and the head desk is notified when an additional program is installed to the machine, in other words, cheats have never touched our internet café computers. I have a spare machine at home that I have CS installed on, and a random choice of OGC I do

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Drew Broadley
> Try waiting for a week to pass, and fix your memory. Did that... Still has previous records of the WONID having "cheats" used. > It would notify you of a player inserting a floppy disk and copying ogc.exe? Interesting. Interesting, when they can't get access to their floppy disk, and if they man

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread James Clark
> - All that having to restart servers after a VAC update. > (ending up with 1000 emails asking why 99% of New Zealands Gaming > Servers are down and having little IRC sh*t's spamming "I skipped school > to play cs now the servers arent even working) A server restart should take about 1 min at mos

Re: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread [TD]MoD
"you are now temporarily banned for a week for having previous cheats installed on this computer" - Try waiting for a week to pass, and fix your memory. "in other words, cheats have never touched our internet café computers." It would notify you of a player inserting a floppy disk and copying o

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Drew Broadley
>that was taken care of in one of the 1110x beta releases a LONG time ago. > >kev Im doing a general VAC summary... ;) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinf

RE: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously....

2003-06-11 Thread Kevin J. Anderson
->-Original Message- ->From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Drew ->Broadley ->Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 5:46 PM ->To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ->Subject: [hlds_linux] VAC, Seriously -> -> ->I don't want to sound critical but: -> ->- Incorrect cheat detection. ->