Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

My Motd is ~9KB and my clients don't have any crashes. I would guess it's more a specific html content, which causes the crash and not the size of the motd. Try to disable your html elements step by step to find out, which one crashes your clients. Disable javascripts, animations, flash elements a

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

Do the includes from javascripts and such count too? Because I can imagine people having analytics or something in there too and some other crap which makes it easy to be above 1kb. -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoft

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

For those who are experiencing no users on your servers, do you have a local motd (hosted on the tf2 server) or are you using a remotely hosted one on a webserver? If it's remotely hosted check to see if it's over 1KB and if it is try lowering it below 1KB. I sent in an email to the newsletter and

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

Thanks for completely ignoring my argument and just saying something off context. If you have nothing productive to say then don't. On Apr 26, 2012, at 8:53 AM, dan wrote: > On 26/04/2012 16:28, Cameron Munroe wrote: >> Yes certain servers do have better ranks then valve, but valve is giving

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

They should just count the amount of players connected to a server in the steam backend and not trust the servers with this - something like this would also help against disguising bots in the 'status' command output and scoreboard. 2012/4/26 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com>: > This just means fakepla

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

This just means fakeplayers are going to make a return. Then those servers will get popular again and quickly. In fact I already see hundreds of servers running them haha. Unfortunate that Valve didn't implement clientside checks to make things like disguised bots impossible. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

I warned about this trend back in December and no one listened. Now that the Christmas and Policy of Truth honeymoon is over, you are all coming out of the woodwork. Though I guess it only makes sense to complain out of desperation now that Lotus and others are dropping heavily in popularity. The

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

That's what I was trying to say. Prior to quickplay everyone used the server browser as it was the first and only option. It has all the game types and maps, custom or stock. Which lead to a greater variety of servers. Then when quickplay came around with free to play suddenly the top servers start

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

Now we've been 15 for about half hour on our Dustbowl, not even a single player is sent here, something must be seriously wrong haha. > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:59:21 +0100 > From: needa...@ntlworld.com > To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com > Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low serve

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

On 26/04/2012 17:32, 1nsane wrote: Of course it doesn't. Halloween is mostly a US thing. But it was put first for everyone. Lots of people played it to get the gifts and achievements. Lots of people played on the halloween map before quickplay existed. Lots of people played on achievement_xx ma

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

I already mention this above. It only sends the top 25 servers from the search for scoring to the game coordinator. For me in the US that tends to be Valve servers most of the time. Using the command "tf_matchmaking_spew_level 2" will only show the servers it actually considered sending you to. The

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

Of course it doesn't. Halloween is mostly a US thing. But it was put first for everyone. Whatever gets put first on quick play becomes successful. If barely anyone used quickplay this would not be the case. Go check the server list for all the official PL maps and compare it to any other game mode

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

I think those lists dont work correctly. On the first list (the one with the screenshots i see in the top10 special attack.net server which has been empty for a long time, it has stats online) Person who has the qpserverlist shows my (lethal-zone.eu) all maps #2 server being in the top 10, i am s

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

On 26/04/2012 16:09, 1nsane wrote: But most people don't. What do you mean "most people"? Most people don't play TF2. Assuming you're referring to the TF2 player base, please point to the research you did to determine what most of them know or don't know. Imagine for second that if you just

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

On 26/04/2012 16:11, Frank wrote: It didn't... you are whining about their discussions on this topic with nothing but negativity. I pointed out that the idea that people are too stupid to join a server is nonsense. As is the idea that TF2 is somehow secret and new users won't find out about

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

On 26/04/2012 16:28, Cameron Munroe wrote: Yes certain servers do have better ranks then valve, but valve is giving them selves a bonus to new players which will lead later to there servers being top dog as they get more connects. I have a server near the bottom 1/3 and it is ranked 150 ish on

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

Yes certain servers do have better ranks then valve, but valve is giving them selves a bonus to new players which will lead later to there servers being top dog as they get more connects. I have a server near the bottom 1/3 and it is ranked 150 ish on gametracker and is nearly full 24/7, at lea

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

On 26/04/2012 15:23, Adam Nowacki wrote: This is what I get: http://tepeserwery.pl/qpserverlist.html - only a few valve servers near the top. Yeah seems reasonable. I note valve servers below and above mine. The conspiracy appears flawed. Presumably this list is taking into account the user

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

It didn't... you are whining about their discussions on this topic with nothing but negativity. I don't see how that relates to the topic at hand nor was this response. It is no secret and I don't hide the fact that I'm still pissed over the Feb14th change but aside from bringing it up and keeping

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

But most people don't. See what happens to a game mode when it gets removed from quickplay. Like with haloween that went from being the most popular one to being the least popular right after removal. It was the most popular purely because of being the first quickplay option. Harvest event had no

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

Later in the day when more Valve servers are full I notice other servers pop up as well. Try doing the same search tomorrow morning just to compare the results. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Adam Nowacki wrote: > This is what I get: > http://tepeserwery.pl/**qpserverlist.html

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

On 26/04/2012 01:15, Frank wrote: Then stop replying to it... I'm enjoying the conversation. I don't see how this relates to the changes in trading ruining your servers? -- Dan ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

On 26/04/2012 01:24, 1nsane wrote: Both, obviously. You don't expect someone to keep playing the same maps/game modes over and over and over again and not get bored eventually? So then when you get bored of the same old and quickplay has the same thing over and over again you move on. Unaware of

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

This is what I get: http://tepeserwery.pl/qpserverlist.html - only a few valve servers near the top. as for getting it: tf_matchmaking_spew_level cvar con_logfile to dump to a file On 2012-04-26 15:52, Tom Grant wrote: This is some interesting stuff here. Could someone tell me how you guys are

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

This is some interesting stuff here. Could someone tell me how you guys are getting this information? I'd love to have a closer look. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:45 AM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote: > Looks like the only servers with a positive user score as are Valve > servers. Not a single

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

Looks like the only servers with a positive user score as are Valve servers. Not a single community server in your list has a positive user score. Does seem like Valve has a score boost once again. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Invalid Protocol < invalidprotocolvers...@gmail.com> wrote: > Val

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

Valve changed something in the last days, because allmost all their servers hosted in Europe have the best quickplay score. They said long time ago that "community servers are competing with Valve servers on an equal footing for quickplay customers", but this is bullshit :( The results of a test c

Re: [hlds_linux] Steam maintenance, still not over?

On 26.04.2012 07:56, Peter Reinhold wrote: Next day, and i'm still seeing this problem, servers are not listed on "frontpage" of L4D2, and if I try a connect from console, the server looks like it initializes the lobby, but then I get a "The session is no longer available" and the fork just seem

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

On 2012-04-26 12:55, Adam Nowacki wrote: I forgot to check the numbers earlier. On 2012-04-25 10:18, speaker wrote: Server #1: 176.9.40.77:27015 - Reputation Score: 11937 (not banned) Server #2: 176.9.40.77:27025 - Reputation Score: 834 (not banned) #1 [SM] Rank: 5514 Total Connects: 108652 To

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

I forgot to check the numbers earlier. On 2012-04-25 10:18, speaker wrote: Server #1: 176.9.40.77:27015 - Reputation Score: 11937 (not banned) Server #2: 176.9.40.77:27025 - Reputation Score: 834 (not banned) #1 [SM] Rank: 5514 Total Connects: 108652 Total Minutes Played: 7044 #2 [SM] Rank:

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

That's exactly the behaviour i ment, newer servers somehow seem to get priority over older, despite how many millions of reputation the older ones have. I also know reputation doesn't count into quickplay that much but it should take more account since older communities are taking a hit due to

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

Our payload server doesn't fill up anymore, even though its around for a long time. While a freshly installed dustbowl server seems to fill up just fine every day. But if i get a couple of people on the payload server it fills up.. Op 26 april 2012 09:58 schreef ics het volgende: > Maybe it's ju

Re: [hlds_linux] Suddenly very low server population

Maybe it's just a bunch of people who have the other server in favorites or random luck or the server that fills up later is actually newer. Lets think about this a bit. Valve servers aren't that old. They get fill up fast. I have one server opened at the time TF2 went free to play and it alway