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Gesendet: Samstag, 10. März 2007 06:31
An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
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We have made that decision, our CS 1.6 server is down for good. In
game
advertising is wrong. Should they push
An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
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We have made that decision, our CS 1.6 server is down for good. In game
advertising is wrong. Should they push it to CSS then we will shut that
server
down as well.
Crazy_One
David Williams
: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
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We have made that decision, our CS 1.6 server is down for good. In game
advertising is wrong. Should they push it to CSS then we will shut that
server
down as well.
Crazy_One
David Williams wrote:
if you read tyhe TOS it states
get away with this!!!
Simon
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Gesendet: Samstag, 10. März 2007 06:31
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We
Very polite comments from you. No need to get rude on us. Closing
servers must not have been an easy decision but some people just dont
tolerate advertisements when they have had the game without them before.
While the advertisements are not at the server itself, they still need a
server to be
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We have made that decision, our CS 1.6 server is down
Yes, you are right about that.
But, if youre so willing to get rid of the ads just do a simple prog.
There is a clientfunction which raffles the ad to different places. The
function always returns zero (0) if it asks new ad from server. If you
do a prog that always return zero to the functiont
, 10. März 2007 06:31
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We have made that decision, our CS 1.6 server is down for good. In game
advertising is wrong. Should they push it to CSS then we will shut that
server
down
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Gesendet: Samstag, 10. März 2007 06:31
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We have made that decision, our CS 1.6 server is down for good. In game
Auftrag von Bryan
Gesendet: Samstag, 10. März 2007 06:31
An: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Betreff: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
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We have made that decision, our CS 1.6 server is down for good. In
game
advertising is wrong. Should they push it to CSS
First my personal statement on the new ads: I hate them. Mostly the
annoying topleft banner (did ya recently played deathmatch/gungame? A
3 seconds delayed spawning makes this ad really disturbing..).
The question I have is: Is it legal? You can apply it on everything:
buying something ad-free,
@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
First my personal statement on the new ads: I hate them.
Mostly the annoying topleft banner (did ya recently played
deathmatch/gungame? A 3 seconds delayed spawning makes this
ad really disturbing..).
The question I have
.
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Parker Lewis
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:37 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
First my personal statement on the new ads: I hate them.
Mostly
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Parker Lewis
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:37 PM
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Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
First my personal statement on the new ads: I hate them.
Mostly the annoying topleft banner (did ya recently played
deathmatch/gungame? A 3 seconds delayed spawning makes
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On 3/6/07, Andrew Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Erm, tough! :-) You could always put your own ads on the server to finance
your hardware and connection.
Actually, you can't. Remember a while back when a company was putting subway
ads
things like this? We also
are all players - do you hear our voice? Is there ONE server admin who likes
this idea? I doubt it...
N
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re:
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We are their most valuable asset, but they ignore our opinion about ads
and sixty-four bits... (Don't forget they don't make any money off us,
letting us earn money for hosting instead.) I advise you to get over
it... they gamble on the probability that we will never manage to
organize a global
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Not until it hits $9.99.
On 3/7/07, Ondřej Hošek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are their most valuable asset, but they ignore our opinion about ads
and sixty-four bits... (Don't forget they don't make any money off us,
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thing is its unsupported by Valve so it shouldnt even be $9.99 i understand
they cant make it free becouse they'll just get flooded with emails about
cheats etc. but with CZ and Source you can play offline against bots. what
doe's CS have ? no
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From: LDuke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Actually, you can't. Remember a while back when a company was putting
subway
ads into CS:S servers? Valve said it was against the EULA and they had to
stop.
If you're advertising your server/website they probably won't say much,
but
if
Read the Valve EULA. You are not allowed to use any part of their
software, for any kind of commercial gain.
I'm no lawyer, but the way I read it, it technically even renders GSP's
hosting their games 'illegal' though, as they are making money by
hosting the Valve server-software.
Anyway, mani
NAh thats quiet easy to get around. You just provide the space for the game
to be hosted.
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From: Regime [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
Read the Valve EULA
: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
Read the Valve EULA. You are not allowed to use any part of their
software, for any kind of commercial gain.
I'm no lawyer, but the way I read it, it technically even renders GSP's
hosting their games 'illegal' though, as they are making money by
hosting
Valves EULA applies if it doesnt go over a law in the country where the
software is used. However, there is no law in any country, as far as i
know, that allows other company software to be used for commercial
purposes by other companies if the company policies which provide the
software,
/rant
Quite frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing people whine about thi_. Don't
get me wrong: I am all against in-game advertisements. I feel that they
detract from the gameplay experience and the congruity of the environment,
and are generally just a cheap trick to cash in on a popular
Re: CS: Source having ads:
On 08/03/2007, at 6:06 AM, Cc2iscooL wrote:
Not until it hits $9.99.
My point exactly.
CS 1.6 is an old game that is costing them a lot more money to run
than they're making out of it. You may be running a server for love
or profit, or both. Valve is a business
Sorry, couldn't resist this time.
Am Mar 7, 2007 um 9:52 PM schrieb John Sheu:
/rant
Quite frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing people whine about
thi_. Don't
get me wrong: I am all against in-game advertisements. I feel that
they
detract from the gameplay experience and the congruity
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To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
Re: CS: Source having ads:
On 08/03/2007, at 6:06 AM, Cc2iscooL wrote:
Not until it hits $9.99.
My point exactly.
CS 1.6 is an old game that is costing them a lot more money
On Wednesday 07 March 2007 3:20 pm, Falk Husemann wrote:
And by you, I mean the vast mass of bitching bigheaded University
of Texas CS players out there. So
nothing personal.
What makes you think I play CS anymore? I don't.
-John Sheu
___
To
On 08/03/2007, at 10:25 AM, Saint K. wrote:
Dont you think supporting a game once its released has been pre-
calculated
in the bugets?
When the budget has expired do you want to see support for the game
cease completely? or could you put up with a few small ads here and
there?
.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Andrew Forsberg
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 3:53 PM
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
On 08/03/2007, at 10:25 AM, Saint K. wrote:
Dont you think
Just remember its $0.50 a minute on your soap box :) Seriously though
you are right to a large extent, until people stick to their guns and
say NO MORE CS then it will go on.
Crazy_One
John Sheu wrote:
/rant
Quite frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing people whine about thi_. Don't
get me
In-game adds are not added into game because of money problems. Valve
has not made any mentions about funding problems and there should not be
any. Game has paid itself back many times already so nothing justifies
the adverts in-game. Game itself doesnt cost that much to run as you think.
They
, 2007 11:23 PM
Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
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Why not turn the source code over to the community that supported it in
the first place. That is if this is truly an intellectual debate speaking
to what is best for everyone and not just
From: Thomas S. Crum - AAA Web Solution
Why not turn the source code over to the community that supported it in
the first place. That is if this is truly an intellectual debate speaking
to what is best for everyone and not just a sponging revenue off a
deprecated product discussion.
Good
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You might quit playing it, but they already have your money.
They're not losing much because you stop playing.
On 3/7/07, ics [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In-game adds are not added into game because of money problems. Valve
has not made any
No, but there you can fill in any of the other advantages they already had
over the succes of CS.
Saint K.
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From: Andrew Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game
Oh and the second thing, the ads aint small!
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From: Andrew Forsberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
On 08/03/2007, at 10:25 AM, Saint K. wrote:
Dont you
If you CS guys want to quit and come play UT2004 we'd be happy to have
you. I wouldn't put up with this if I were you.
John Sheu wrote:
/rant
Quite frankly, I am sick and tired of hearing people whine about thi_. Don't
get me wrong: I am all against in-game advertisements. I feel that they
Well, they are finally here... a lot of negative feedbacks so far... I
personally don't see the reason to have in game Ads. People paid for the
product, they deserve having a product without Ads. It makes more sense for
a Free version of CS 1.6 to be released that has Ad support and also giving
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i aggree with you on what you have said. i dont understand how they can
still make money from a game the apperently dont support anymore ? if you
dont support it why sell it ?? maybe with the money your going to make from
these adverts you might
Hi
Fd i aggree with you on what you have said. i dont understand how they can
Fd still make money from a game the apperently dont support anymore ? if you
Fd dont support it why sell it ??
Well, it's The Law of the Jungle... They just don't care about gsp's,
performance, bugs etc. The majority
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From the discussions last night with fellow gamers and server admins last
night, there is going to be a huge backlash against this. I for one have paid
for my HL and CSS WITHOUT adverts. To now tell me as a server owner/admin I
have to let VALVE advertise on a
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Frederick P wrote:
Well, they are finally here... a lot of negative feedbacks so far... I
personally don't see the reason to have in game Ads. People paid for the
product, they deserve having a product without Ads. It makes more sense for
a Free version of CS 1.6 to be
The ad's are on clientside, not serverside, so there is really now ad's
on your server. The client's game draws them. There's already a two way
to disable the ad's, but that's forbidden so I don't tell you how to do
that.
--
Valtteri
Marcel Beringer kirjoitti:
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Frederick P
Please tell me some key words ;) I will figure it out myself then.
Saint K.
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From: Valtteri Kiviniemi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
The ad's
Kiviniemi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
The ad's are on clientside, not serverside, so there is really now ad's
on your server. The client's game draws them. There's already a two way
: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
The ad's are on clientside, not serverside, so there is really now ad's
on your server. The client's game draws them. There's already a two way
to disable the ad's, but that's forbidden so I don't tell you how to do
that.
--
Valtteri
Marcel
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Frederick P wrote:
I
don't see any reason for this idea to be added to Ad unless if it is a
marketing scheme to kill off CS 1.6 and get people into CS Source.
Hmmm, I doubt that. CS *was* a cash cow, but I imagine sales figures for it
these days are rather slim. They've
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To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CS 1.6 in game Ads
The ad's are on clientside, not serverside, so there is really now ad's
on your server. The client's game draws them. There's already a two way
to disable
Andrew Forsberg wrote:
On Tue, 6 Mar 2007, Frederick P wrote:
I
don't see any reason for this idea to be added to Ad unless if it is a
marketing scheme to kill off CS 1.6 and get people into CS Source.
Hmmm, I doubt that. CS *was* a cash cow, but I imagine sales figures
for it
these days
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