Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-25 Thread joe_null
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Deacon wrote: There's a Mark Brown, Jeremy Brooking, Britty Priddy, and others on every list out there. Controlling it is difficult without being a BOFH. And only a few months ago you would be include

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-25 Thread Adam Smith
- Original Message - From: "Eric (Deacon)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 11:20 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs > Florian Zschocke wrote: > > But our Eric (Deacon) is pretty unique. Haven't seen on

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-25 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Florian Zschocke wrote: But our Eric (Deacon) is pretty unique. Haven't seen one of those on any other list out there. :) I boggle the mind *and* the soul ;) -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list arch

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-24 Thread Florian Zschocke
Eric (Deacon) wrote: There's a Mark Brown, Jeremy Brooking, Britty Priddy, and others on every list out there. Controlling it is difficult without being a BOFH. But our Eric (Deacon) is pretty unique. Haven't seen one of those on any other list out there. :) Florian. _

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-24 Thread Mad Scientist
According to the great words of Deacon: > Tony Di Schino wrote: >> why does every topic on this list go to hell so painfully? > > There's a Mark Brown, Jeremy Brooking, Britty Priddy, and others on > every list out there. I'm offended that you forgot me. I'll have to be a bigger pain in the ass i

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-24 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Tony Di Schino wrote: why does every topic on this list go to hell so painfully? There's a Mark Brown, Jeremy Brooking, Britty Priddy, and others on every list out there. Controlling it is difficult without being a BOFH. -- Eric (the Deacon remix) ___ To

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread m0gely
Stefan Huszics wrote: m0gely wrote: Who cares where. Just because it's being used on 10 diff subnets ANYWHERE oughta be enough. So if you take your laptop with you on your traveling holiday and connect a few times you are pretty much f*ed and have to buy a new game? :( I should have mentioned, 1

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Jeremy Brooking wrote: Oh, you mean like your Original post above eric? My "Original post" had nothing to do with you and was not a flame or anything even close. In fact, it was a valid suggestion for a resolution of the topic issue. Apparently you refer to my "Original post" as the amazingl

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread David Harrison
ul next time!). -- david Original Message From: "Michael Ressen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs >> -Original Message- >> From: "Simon Garner" &

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Michael Ressen
> -Original Message- > From: "Simon Garner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You cannot ban a player just for using the same key > as another player. Sure I can. Key-sharing? No, I don't believe it. Multiple keys are used for one thing: cheating. Anyone I see flip flop between keys, I'll ban th

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Jeremy Brooking wrote: Simon Garner wrote: This might help fix the timeout/reconnect issue. But it still doesn't help you to determine which player is the legitimate owner of the key and which is not. That is the crux of the problem. You cannot ban a player just for using the same key as another p

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Jeremy Brooking
Eric (Deacon) wrote: OK, I've figured you out. You're a political adviser for the DNC. Heh, I couldn't resist ;) And you either: Work for Bill or Work for the CIA writing Bush's speeches. :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Jeremy Brooking
Simon Garner wrote: This might help fix the timeout/reconnect issue. But it still doesn't help you to determine which player is the legitimate owner of the key and which is not. That is the crux of the problem. You cannot ban a player just for using the same key as another player. -Simon Totally

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Jeremy Brooking wrote: Eric (Deacon) wrote: Jeremy Brooking wrote: Eric (Deacon) wrote: Yes, you've figured me out :roll: Do you have anything intelligent to say? Praise or criticizm of the idea, or are you just a jackass? Oh of course eric, you are the only person has puts positive input into t

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Jeremy Brooking
James Clark wrote: I don't think "cd key in use" problems should be lumped together with cheating - they're a different issue. Why not? The worst cheaters are also CD-Key stealers/traders. ...and some of the best players, occasionaly get "CD Key in use". But ban them anyway, because they co

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Michael Ressen
> -Original Message- > From: Stefan Huszics <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > m0gely wrote: > > >> And what exactly defines multiple locations? > >> > >> There is no possible way of telling, where an IP resides. > So determining > >> 'multiple locations' is not practical. > > > > > > Who cares where.

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Jeremy Brooking
Simon Garner wrote: Plastic wrappered aren't they? I can't remember - been a while since I bought my copy. They should be, but not always. -Simon Not to mention, those plastic wrapper machines most companies have... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your l

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Simon Garner
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 2:02 PM [GMT+1200=NZT], James Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I also think people are getting confused between two things > > 1 - multiple people using same key. > 2 - the 'key is in use' issue some people suffer when it isn't > actually in use. > > This thread

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread James Clark
> And what if some punk with a keygen gets lucky and generates your key, > then goes and plays CS - then you go to play and it says the key is in > use and you get banned? As far as I know you'd have to be VERY lucky to do this with WON. Yes I do know what it is like for this to happen - I bought

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Simon Garner
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:27 PM [GMT+1200=NZT], James Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > When it has become an issue it doesn't matter who it is, the owner or > the owners mate... both will be made to pay (and learn). In much the > same way as all of those "brothers" out there got caught wit

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Jeremy Brooking
Eric (Deacon) wrote: Exactly, Stefan. If the CD-KEY IN USE error message comes up, it's because Valve's received the communication, looked it up, and given it the thumbs-down. If it's coming from the same IP, then don't worry about it. If it's coming from different IP's, reject that CD-Key for

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Jeremy Brooking
m0gely wrote: Who cares where. Just because it's being used on 10 diff subnets ANYWHERE oughta be enough. Anytime a client gets "CD-KEY" in use, valve should know about it. And action could be taken. Location is irrelevant. Thats the point, location is irrelevant. You could use a dialup, and b

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Simon Garner
On Wednesday, July 23, 2003 1:07 PM [GMT+1200=NZT], Eric (Deacon) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Wow...how often does that happen? Maybe since it's never happened to > me, I didn't think about it. Your connection to your ISP can be > severed, reconnected, and for whatever reason assigned a new I

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Eric (Deacon)
Stefan Huszics wrote: I seem to recall, once upon a time, that there can sometimes be a delay between when a CD-KEY is active and then shown inactive on WON. Leading, sometimes to false "CD-KEY IN USE" errors... But is it likely that the users IP would have changed before the wonid database manage

Re: [hlds_linux] Cleanup CDKEYs

2003-07-22 Thread Stefan Huszics
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to recall, once upon a time, that there can sometimes be a delay between when a CD-KEY is active and then shown inactive on WON. Leading, sometimes to false "CD-KEY IN USE" errors... But is it likely that the users IP would have changed before the wonid database ma