RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-30 Thread Smeg
#!/bin/sh cd /home/smeg/bin/hlds_steam/hlds_steam ./hlds_run -game cstrike -autoupdate -pingboost 2 +ip 202.36.205.21 +port 27030 +maxplayers 12 +map de_dust -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Kercher Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003

Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-30 Thread Christopher Luk
should be steam *powered* HL/CS, apart from the non-steam *powered* HL/CS. anyhow, those steam *powered* one cost me more on cpu loading in average. full slots, no firewall and no bandwidth constraints. :) a final word, got to live with it while i keep those services with my business. less slots,

Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-30 Thread Daniel Stroven
On the contrary, from your first email to your last, the one thing they all have in common is..attitude.Go back through my archives of the list. How many issues have you posted on? How many people have you helped? How much information have you given to the list or other admins? Anyone

Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-30 Thread hlds_linux
If you want to continue with your pissing match, please go to usenet or take it offline. If you can act as the professionals that you claim to be then by all means continue. At times you have each made valid contributions to this list and I hope that you can continue to do so. Thanks -miket

RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread bad ping
Lets not deny that this release is using A LOT more cpu than the last. Its pretty much FACT - unless you happen to be one of the lucky few with a SUPER KERNEL that runs 5% cpu with a 32 player serverand we all know that's bs. Sorry James, but I have to deny it, because it's true. I've

RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread bad ping
Sorry James, but I have to deny it, because it's true. I've spent more Doh. Broke my own rule and wrote an email before my first cup of coffee. I obviously meant, I have to deny it, because it's false BTW, that's with MM 1.16.2, AM 2.50.57-beta, StatsMe 2.71 and VAC running, with

RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread James Sykes
Who said this release is laggy? Sure it uses more CPU but as long as your machine can handle it there is no problem. In fact I'm pretty sure this release performs better for the client , not so much on linux, but in windows it seems quite a lot better. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL

RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread James Sykes
What speed is that p4? I get 35-40% cpu with 12 players playing Dust2. 2.4 Intel with Slack 8.1. Oh, and to the original question in this thread...I wouldn't hang a  winblows box out on the Internet unless I was a masochist Enough of the windows bashing - it’s a great operating system if

RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread jeremy
Not saying that - we run no more than 2 hlds procs per machine - never a 20/20 player server on the same box - maybe a 14 player with a 20 player - and league matches have a occured these past few days and the only complaint is the Spec bug in TFC - (server locking up / freezing) - thats it - no

RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread jeremy
Terribly sorry for the issues you and a few others seem to be having...but don't say it can't be done. Best of luck to you. A few? I think we are the majority here. Jeremy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives,

RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread Sindre
When a dual MP2800+ can't handle a lag-free 32 player server, IT IS LAGGY, period. - Sindre = Original Message From James Sykes [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Who said this release is laggy? Sure it uses more CPU but as long as your machine can handle it there is no problem. In fact I'm pretty sure

RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread bad ping
A few? I think we are the majority here. An observation on human psychology: negative events are more often recollected than positive ones. From my perspective, I see a lot of people getting positive results here, enough to know that I'm far from alone. From the perspective of an admin

RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread Mad Scientist
According to the great words of Sindre: You are so painfully wrong, stop pestering the list with such false bullshit, windows DOES RUN HLDS BETTER AT THE MOMENT. I never said it didn't. My exact words: I'm not in any way suggesting there isn't a difference. All I'm saying is that we do not

RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread bad ping
In reply to: I can't do much about the number of results (I've tried to make it as easy as I could with that version checker thing) but tell me what you want it to sort by and I'll make it happen. Troy, thank you very much for setting that up. It's slick and very useful, it just needs a view

RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread bad ping
You are so painfully wrong, stop pestering the list with such false bullshi t, windows DOES RUN HLDS BETTER AT THE MOMENT. Wow, this is like batting practice... Sindre, How about you write us up a little white paper on the differences between the way Task Manager, top in it's various

Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread bad ping
Daniel, I truly do apologize for your lack of basic education. It's breaking my heart. The rest of your post was all hot air, so I will let it vanish as such. Let me know when you have something to add to the discussion, besides your own exceptionally high opinion of yourself. Would anybody

RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread Tyler \[TASF]Overkill\ Schwend
I have a pair of lucky underwear. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of bad ping Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 11:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32? Daniel, I

Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread James Couzens
Better yet, why don't you? We've been over this. I run windows and linux servers. The windows servers outperform the linux ones time over time. Stop citing inaccurrate cpu reporting from either OS. If you wish to make such statements back them up with proof. My view that windows uses less

Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread Mad Scientist
According to the great words of James Couzens: If you wish to make such statements back them up with proof. That's exactly what we're trying to gather. -Mad -- A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven.

RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread Troy Davisson
I don't know enough about the HLDS to put something together like what you're talking about but the versions thing I did does some of that. It can be used as a guide for someone if they don't want to worry about that part (or contact me and maybe we can put something functional together). Would

Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread hlds_linux
Is there a server side commandline way to query a running hlds server as to number of players and their pings? maybe telnet to the server port and send whatever command? I could scan the proces table for any running hlds parse the output for the mods/ports/max players or consult the config files

Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-29 Thread bad ping
James Couzens wrote: Better yet, why don't you? I'm hoping that if people keep asking that question enough that eventually some bright person will get annoyed and answer it, so that we can all stop watching our resource viewer of choice and get back to killing each other. Troy, comma

Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-28 Thread m0gely
James Sykes wrote: If the new linux HLDS is really doubling CPU usage over 3.1.1.0c then how in the world can I host enough games to cover the cost of my server? You don't :) At 14 players in de_aztec, I don't see anywhere near double the CPU. It's a little more, Double though? C'mon. Right now

Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-28 Thread admin
Wait a few weeks? lol - have they fixed it since 3.1.1.1 ? How long have they been aware of the usage problems and not done anything about it? If valve does anything about it in the next few weeks it would be a biblical sign of the end i think lol - Original Message - From: James

Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-28 Thread Britt Priddy \(PZGN\)
exactly what m0gely said. less CPU for me on AMD 2800+ - Original Message - From: m0gely [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32? James Sykes wrote: If the

RE: [hlds_linux] The CPU usage issue.. what should I go with: Linux or Win32?

2003-09-28 Thread James Sykes
Lets not deny that this release is using A LOT more cpu than the last. Its pretty much FACT - unless you happen to be one of the lucky few with a SUPER KERNEL that runs 5% cpu with a 32 player serverand we all know that's bs. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL