Re: [homenet] Homenet protocol decisions

2014-02-03 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 04/02/2014 04:29, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Feb 3, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: >> I am also skeptical that there are significant configuration things in the >> homenet which *do not* ultimately need to share fate with connectivity. > > ULA seems like an obvious example. If the ne

Re: [homenet] Homenet protocol decisions

2014-02-03 Thread Brian E Carpenter
Juliusz, On 03/02/2014 08:53, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: >> I happen to have one in mind. It's discussed for the case of >> carrier networks in >> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-jiang-config-negotiation-ps-02 > > I've now read this draft. Section 2.4 says things that I never even > considered,

Re: [homenet] DHCP PD

2014-02-03 Thread Ted Lemon
On Feb 3, 2014, at 2:06 PM, Lorenzo Colitti wrote: > Perhaps, but if implementations don't actually do this (and I don't think > they do), then it doesn't really matter what the intent was. There are no homenet router implementations. ___ homenet mail

Re: [homenet] Homenet protocol decisions

2014-02-03 Thread Ted Lemon
On Feb 3, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Michael Richardson wrote: > I am also skeptical that there are significant configuration things in the > homenet which *do not* ultimately need to share fate with connectivity. ULA seems like an obvious example. ___ homenet

Re: [homenet] Homenet protocol decisions

2014-02-03 Thread Michael Richardson
Michael Richardson wrote: > I am also skeptical that there are significant configuration things in the > homenet which ultimately need to share fate with connectivity. Let me try again: I am also skeptical that there are significant configuration things in the homenet which *do not* ulti

Re: [homenet] DHCP PD

2014-02-03 Thread Ted Lemon
On Feb 3, 2014, at 9:39 AM, Pierre Pfister wrote: > I’m not sure DHCP Relaying was intended to work with different DHCP servers. > In any case, DHCP client was not. This is not actually true. RFC 3315 was written with the clear anticipation of the possibility that a DHCP client might talk to

Re: [homenet] DHCP PD

2014-02-03 Thread Pierre Pfister
Le 3 févr. 2014 à 07:11, Ray Bellis a écrit : > > On 3 Feb 2014, at 12:51, Alexandru Petrescu > wrote: > >> In this setting the Router3 could run two DHCPRelay processes, and Router1 >> and 2 would be Servers. >> >> This would allow Host to obtain an address from each (==multi-homed). I’m

Re: [homenet] Homenet protocol decisions

2014-02-03 Thread Michael Richardson
Juliusz Chroboczek wrote: > As usual, it's a tradeoff, and the choice of tradeoff is dependent on > one's background. > Those of us who come from the Free Software chaos will prefer small, > self-contained protocols that can be implemented by small, loosely > coupled groups o

Re: [homenet] DHCP PD

2014-02-03 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Le 03/02/2014 15:11, Ray Bellis a écrit : On 3 Feb 2014, at 12:51, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: In this setting the Router3 could run two DHCPRelay processes, and Router1 and 2 would be Servers. This would allow Host to obtain an address from each (==multi-homed). It could, but assume that Ro

Re: [homenet] Homenet protocol decisions

2014-02-03 Thread Michael Richardson
Brian E Carpenter wrote: > You (and others) who speak of a "Homenet Configuration > Protocol" seem to be making an assumption which is far from > clear to me. That assumption is that config parameters in a homenet > will come in some sense top-down from a higher level source of

Re: [homenet] DHCP PD

2014-02-03 Thread Ray Bellis
On 3 Feb 2014, at 12:51, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > In this setting the Router3 could run two DHCPRelay processes, and Router1 > and 2 would be Servers. > > This would allow Host to obtain an address from each (==multi-homed). It could, but assume that Router3 doesn't yet know anything abou

Re: [homenet] DHCP PD

2014-02-03 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Le 30/01/2014 14:03, Ole Troan a écrit : Alex, changing the thread since this seems to diverge from getting answers to the questions I asked. cheers, Ole On 30 Jan 2014, at 13:55 , Alexandru Petrescu wrote: Pierre, Thanks for the reply. Le 30/01/2014 13:46, Pierre Pfister a écrit : L

Re: [homenet] Homenet protocol decisions

2014-02-03 Thread Ole Troan
> 7) I generally despair of this entire debate, and wish more people > were writing code, doing experiments, and working inside the real > world. I hate that this discussion has ratholed on the method of > distribution, rather on than on "what configuration information needs > to be propagated insi

Re: [homenet] Homenet protocol decisions

2014-02-03 Thread Alexandru Petrescu
Le 02/02/2014 17:47, Acee Lindem a écrit : I agree. I disagree questioning what happens when the routing protocol finds out that even though the delegation protocol things everything is ok and addresses were delegated justfine the network becomes partitioned. First, I would try to understand w