RE: [Hornlist] RE: Titanium Valves

Same observation with these composite valves !! Happy Holidays to you, Ken. Greetings from Munich. Hans === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 12:19 AM To: [EMAI

RE: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

MY 25-year-old GANTER DOUBLE HORN. A descant Bb/high-F does not help much. Just for the high d3 & e3 ? No, if you don't have these notes on the Bb-side, better not to try to play this piece. If one plays a lot on the F-side, even in op.86, - and it is possible, then the Bb-side (the "trigger") will

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Valve

In a message dated 12/7/2003 8:00:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > But, okay, I admit, if I had to carry my valve around all day, I probably > would get a backpack case for it. Do you think they have cut-valve cases? > Maybe they'd be a little smaller and easier to carry.

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Valve

At 10:51 PM -0500 12/7/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The valve that was sticking was the one that i played only every >sunday, and oiled it the night before. The one that i play at school all >weekdays >but dont oil. is the one that was fine. Hi,Mike - Do you carry the valves in your pock

[Hornlist] Re: Valve

Mr. Whetmore, The valve that was sticking was the one that i played only every sunday, and oiled it the night before. The one that i play at school all weekdays but dont oil. is the one that was fine. I really dont like the horn at school, the leadpipe was bent and some of t

Re: [Hornlist] RE: Titanium Valves

My horn valves do not need to be lightning-fast, just faster than my fingers. -AC. I'm just curious - why all the desire for lighter, quicker valves? ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memph

Re: [Hornlist] New intonation idea for harmonics

Oh yes and my goal of this is just to have a definate relative pitch tendency chart and to have some mathematical basis for any future research in this arena. The math, the way it works, is quite simple. No matter what harmonic, on 1Hz, or a million, you will have the same ratios from one to th

Re: [Hornlist] New intonation idea for harmonics

Of course. I've got it set up so that two octaves of fundamentals are covered and all harmonics are mathematically perfect pitch-wise. If you use cents then the intonations are always the same. Math is beautiful like that... http://www.cheatbot.com/harmonics1.html";>http://www.cheatbot.com/harm

[Hornlist] New intonation idea for harmonics

If you use 'just intonation' harmonic ratios (ratii ?) to determine the 'proper' pitch, then you also need to be aware that the pitch for each note is dependent on the 'root' note of the scale being considered. The proper pitches for the notes of a just intonation scale beginning on concert F

[Hornlist] RE: Chemical cleaning/ Brite Dip

>>I just bought some Ferree's Brite Dip. I haven't tried it on a horn yet, and I would be interested in hearing the experiences and caveats of anyone who has personally used this product to clean a horn. Carl Bangs>> 2 major suggestions: 1. Make sure that you have a baking soda dip after the

[Hornlist] RE: Titanium Valves

I'm just curious - why all the desire for lighter, quicker valves? The weight difference between a well made triple and a double is less than half a pound. If an instrument is made too light then it will lose some of its ability to project. As for valves - a well designed valve made of brass, or

Re: [Hornlist] Those who have...

Here here! *raises a toast* Cheers! -William In a message dated 12/7/2003 2:56:19 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > In a recent message Prof. Pizka mentioned that he was not rich. No, he is > wealthy. "To those who have, more shall be given". He has given his life to > t

[Hornlist] Comedy Conservatory...

Is there a website for that one? :-> ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

[Hornlist] New intonation idea for harmonics

For those of you that have seen the chart I made (the rough draft) and were interested I'm still working on better ways to colorize and organize everything. You will be interested to know that the note names do not change one bit for each harmonic whether you use an A fundamental of 1Hz or 9 m

[Hornlist] Those who have...

In a recent message Prof. Pizka mentioned that he was not rich. No, he is wealthy. "To those who have, more shall be given". He has given his life to the betterment of music and may I say, all the public who has heard him perform. That he finds time to do what he does would probably make a mere

Re: [Hornlist] Burana...

The comedy conservatory of course! --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Mr. Tedesco, > >You're good. How'd you get so quick on the draw? > > Giovanni :-> > > ___ > post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/hor

[Hornlist] Burana...

Mr. Tedesco, You're good. How'd you get so quick on the draw? Giovanni :-> ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

[Hornlist] Herbert Fritz Knopf pre-WWII catalogue scans upload

The upload of the scans of the Herbert Fritz Knopf pre-WWII catalogue now has been completed I have to issue a few disclaimers: These .jpg files are based on 300dpi scans, which make the files quite large, but then not as huge in size as the Alexander files. Freaks like myself want the opportuni

RE: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

That's an interesting list of your normally used horns. I notice there isn't a "normal" B/high-F descant in your list. If I may ask, when you played the Konzerstuecke down in New Zealand, what horn did you use? Chris --- Hans Pizka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, you are wrong, William. The

RE: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

No, you are wrong, William. The titanium is that hard, that it will lap into the nickel silver or yellow brass casings, but one has to know how to do it right. Well, if I were really rich, I would not fuss around with four five horns & different sets of valves, I would proceed the same way as I di

Re: [Hornlist] Opinions and logic

Exactly. People have a right to an opinion as well. I think it was very childish for Jack to "attack" me because I stated my opinion about something. -William In a message dated 12/7/2003 11:08:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Regardless of anyone else's knowledge &opi

Re: [Hornlist] Opinions and logic

Regardless of anyone else's knowledge & opinions, as a rank amateur I hereby reserve the right to develop & adhere to my own preferences about horn valve mechanisms & linkages despite complete, total, & absolute ignorance of the applicable principles of torque, torsion, physics, mathematics, me

Re: [Hornlist] Opinions and logic

No that is only my opinion. It is not the most pertinent sentence I have made on that subject since it is only opinion. Heaven forbid an _opinion_ shows up... I'm sure you have plenty of opinions yourself about a great number of things which could be considered as 'interfering' with your reason

[Hornlist] RE: Mini-balls do not apply even torque (Proof included)

William writes: I've played on many linkage horns and I cannot stand the feel of them. I think this is the most pertinent statement you have made on this subject William. All of your other "reasonings" and "justifications" are just so much interference on the subject. On the other

[Hornlist] random thought...

You say Carmina, I say Carmeena, lets call the whole thing "Orff" ! :-> ___ post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] set your options at http://music.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] E fingerings and funky intonations *correction*

In a message dated 12/7/2003 9:19:12 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Knowing your harmonic series is never a bad thing. It's amazing how many > traditional fingerings used in the wrong context can make intonation so > difficult. > After all just a middle C to G run on all

Re: [Hornlist] E fingerings and funky intonations

In a message dated 12/7/2003 8:34:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Even the Weber is much easier if you use the F-side for the greater part > except the very high notes or some notes at the bottom of the staff, to > hit them stronger on the Bb-side. While in Vienna, we stu

Re: [Hornlist] Rosetti 5 and E parts

Then he may not have placed the order yet? I'd better call him then... seems like this is a conductor that puts things off to the last minute... I never understood procrastination. The performance is in February and he really needs to get his act together with the order. I'm going to make sure

RE: [Hornlist] Mini-balls do not apply even torque (Proof included)

Thee ist he story about the plane crash surviving chimpanzee, as the only survivor. A fine & famous scientist has been called to start any possible communication with this "hominide (?)", asking "what did the captain do" - "chucka-chucka-chucka" - "what did the stewardess do ?" - "chucka-chucka-chu

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

Just joking around there Hans :) I'm sure that would probably set me back a lot of money to even attempt to order it... You have to admit Hans, if you were rich you would want a lot of things to play with too. If I were rich I'd probably have four or five horns and two sets of valves for each a

RE: [Hornlist] Rosetti 5 and E parts

Even the Weber is much easier if you use the F-side for the greater part except the very high notes or some notes at the bottom of the staff, to hit them stronger on the Bb-side. While in Vienna, we studied the Weber on a Pumpenhorn, using the A-crook & the corresponding shorter slides. Very easy,

RE: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

Lapping in titanium valves - I wish you much "Spass" ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 5:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject

Re: [Hornlist] Mini-balls do not apply even torque (Proof included)

In a message dated 12/7/2003 6:00:53 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > You know, I hate to prolong this sorry mess but I take exception to this > premise. The whole purpose of the mini-ball linkage is to connect a ball to > the > rotor stop via a concave linkage with negat

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

In a message dated 12/7/2003 5:30:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Josef Meinlschmidt Ah... I wonder is it possible to order a set of 4 carbon fiber and 4 titanium valves from him for a Schmid? I'd love to have the money to try the differences out... -William _

Re: [Hornlist] Rosetti 5 and E parts

We're using the KaWe edition. Hopefully the conductor has contacted you about renting the parts, I referred him straight to you :) As to the conversation, I enjoy it as well and I hope my argumentative nature doesn't dampen an otherwise good work-related friendship. Rosetti 5, ah Rosetti 5...

Re: [Hornlist] Mini-balls do not apply even torque (Proof included)

This chimpanzee might like to try though:-} Leigh On Sunday, December 7, 2003, at 01:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very good point. You can also give a Porshe to a Chimpanzee but that doesn't mean he'll make a qualifying lap at Nurburgring. -William In a message dated 12/6/2003 10:30:46 PM Pacif

Re: [Hornlist] Mini-balls do not apply even torque (Proof included)

In a message dated 12/6/2003 6:15:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > When an open valve is depressed initially it is at 135 degrees to the > center. > This is in turn 45 degrees from the radial line. What would that Torque be? > It would be > You know, I hate to prolo

Re: [Hornlist] Re: VINTAGE CONN 28D ON eBAY

In a message dated 12/6/2003 10:13:57 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Actually, 400,000 series Conn 28d's were not all brass. most of them were > made with almost all brass, however the Bb valve cap and the mouthpipe were > made > of nickle. > Thanks to Paul Navarro fo

RE: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

Dave, there is a funny observation. Many players like valves with lighter thus faster action. You make them faster by whatever technique. Then you meet the other potential (old fashion) customers, who complain then, that the "valves have no grip". You cannot make it right for everybody. Just think

Re: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

In a message dated 12/5/2003 7:31:49 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Looking for light weight valves? Talk to Finke. > Not only them, but Josef Meinlschmidt, maker of valve sections for many fine horn makers, can make rotors out of carbon fiber resin, as well. >From a

RE: [Hornlist] singing etc. horn tone

There are 4 Windpassing(s) in Lower Austria: Lat./Long.: 48.15/15.03 near St.Poelten, 48.18/14.91 South of Grein, 48.23/14,51 north east of Enns, 48,61/16,05 in the Waldviertel /north of the Danube half way from St.Poelten to Brno But there are four Wimpassing(s) in Lower Austria: 47,91/16,43 on t

RE: [Hornlist] Mini-balls do not apply even torque (Proof included)

So you got the message. But, please, it is "Porsche" not "Porshe". The brand mark is known too well. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 7:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Mi

RE: [Hornlist] Making Titanium Valves?

Yes, Rosetti no.5 is some challenge, as it is in E. Using a lot of F-side might help much, as all arpeggios go on 2, and the valve 2 is the most engaged there. Using the Bb-side (2nd valve switches it to A-horn) for some top notes or when fingering might be easier even in the low range, a great hel

Re: [Hornlist] HORN MUTES (James Bond)

Clayton Whetmore, here: Branden Geistert wrote: P.S. If anyone has any extra time could you please list and explain the various mutes for horn and what they do to its sound. Thank You very much again. For starters, you may wish to view the general mute information

Re: [Hornlist] HORN MUTES (James Bond)

Clayton Whetmore, here: Branden Geistert wrote: If anyone has any extra time could you please list and explain the various mutes for horn and what they do to its sound. Thank You very much again. Stephen Malinowski has a nice description of French Horn Stopping - Why the Pitch Shift?

[Hornlist] HORN MUTES (James Bond)

Hello its Branden again. I have been very interested in the James Bond style horn playing for a long time. I recently watched DIE ANOTHER DAY and was extremely moved by the crazy jazz style horn playing in its score. I have no experience with mutes and was wondering if anyone had any idea what t