RE: [Hornlist] Translation help

2008-03-03 Thread hans
Very sorry to you, so I blame Wakkypedia. = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:11 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Translation hel

Re: [Hornlist] Vintage dress - NHR

2008-03-03 Thread David Goldberg
One (last?) moment with this thready thread - thanks, Ellen for making a direct contact with Margaret Wilds. Too late, I see that we could easily have googled 'denisebrain' to put all the pieces of the puzzle together, including her page on myspace which explains the moniker, the connection, a

RE: [Hornlist] Fingering

2008-03-03 Thread John Baumgart
A simple, "Oh, really? Show me the preferred ones," should result in the debate ending with an excuse as to why he can't. John Baumgart -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Borje Lofblad Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 3:00 PM To: horn@music.

Re: [Hornlist] Who's the player?

2008-03-03 Thread pmjilka
The hornist second from the right is Guenther Hoegner. -Original Message- From: Chris Earnest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Horn Digest Sent: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 4:26 pm Subject: [Hornlist] Who's the player? Who is the horn player 2nd from the right in the Don Juan video at http://www.youtube.

[Hornlist] Who's the player?

2008-03-03 Thread Chris Earnest
Who is the horn player 2nd from the right in the Don Juan video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWqepseU3yA&feature=related ? Could it be Mike Bloom?!? I know he experimented with the Vienna horn sometimes, but AFAIK he never played with the Vienna Philharmonic. Chris Earnest ___

Re: [Hornlist] Translation help

2008-03-03 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Hi Hans, I didn't fall into any trap at all - I think you have broken your own rule and not read my post properly :-) I said: "I know that your date is too early for this" Nor did I suggest that I thought this instrument had anything to do with the Nazis, I merely cut and pasted the

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Mozart Concerto #3

2008-03-03 Thread William Gross
Thank you. On 3/3/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The discant technique (higher than high written high c) was lost > completely after the invention of the valves as valves allowed all half > steps available on natural instruments (non valve instruments) in the > highest strato

Re: [Hornlist] Translation help

2008-03-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Lawrence, the date before 1900 ? Where there nazis in Germany ? Probably the same number as in your part of the world The whole movement, this movement of paranoic bandits & demagogues had not started, while - I must admit - there was a strong pangermanic political movement with some s

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Mozart Concerto #3

2008-03-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The discant technique (higher than high written high c) was lost completely after the invention of the valves as valves allowed all half steps available on natural instruments (non valve instruments) in the highest stratospheres. Nobody could ever imagine playing up to written high g, as their h

Re: [Hornlist] Translation help

2008-03-03 Thread Martin Bender
Thank you for your help, Lawrence! I didn't see any swastika or runic markings on it. Sincerely, martin bender On 3-Mar-08, at 2:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that your date is too early for this, but The Wakkypedia gives this account under the heading "Glossary of nazi Germany"

Re: [Hornlist] Translation help

2008-03-03 Thread Martin Bender
Thank you, Adrian! Sincerely, martin bender On 3-Mar-08, at 2:48 PM, Adrian Hitchborn wrote: "Mehr sein als scheinen" would correctly be translated as "Be modest but always excel" Greetings from Bavaria ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe

Re: [Hornlist] Translation help

2008-03-03 Thread Martin Bender
Hi Richard, Thanks for the information. It's amazing the things one can find on the "bargain table" at a flea market! Sincerely, martin bender On 3-Mar-08, at 2:57 PM, Richard V. West wrote: Martin: From your description the instrument you described sounds like a Plesshorn (there may b

Re: [Hornlist] Translation help

2008-03-03 Thread Richard V. West
Martin: From your description the instrument you described sounds like a Plesshorn (there may be other names for it), a bugle-like Bb instrument wound like a mini cor de chasse, used to play fanfares for ceremonial occasions. The one I have has a nickel kranz around the bell and an embossed m

Re: [Hornlist] Translation help

2008-03-03 Thread Adrian Hitchborn
"Mehr sein als scheinen" would correctly be translated as "Be modest but always excel" Greetings from Bavaria ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

Re: [Hornlist] Translation help

2008-03-03 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
I know that your date is too early for this, but The Wakkypedia gives this account under the heading "Glossary of nazi Germany": "Mehr sein als scheinen "Be more than you appear to be." -- Motto applied to blades of uniform daggers worn by the Nationalpolitsche Erziehungsanstalten, or NPEA,

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Mozart Concerto #3

2008-03-03 Thread William Gross
Was it just hubris on their part, or had quality of horn playing dropped off after Mozart's era? I am just curious why something like the Duets were accepted horn music at one period seem to have been considered as "too hard" for horn players. On 3/3/08, hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Musi

[Hornlist] Translation help

2008-03-03 Thread Martin Bender
Hello all, A friend of mine found an old flugel/bugle/horn thing, without valves at a flea market and wanted to know more about it. Sorry I don't have a picture, but I'd say it was a military band instrument. There is a date on it, and a crest of some sort, but it's hard to make it out be

Re: [Hornlist] Fingering

2008-03-03 Thread Jonathan West
Hi Hans I quite agree with the ignorance of this trombonist > The standard fingering (starting with written c1 (first > ledger line below staff) on the F-horn is : > 0-12-1-2-0-1-2-0-23-12 or 3-1-2-0 --- 2-0-2-0-1-2-0. That > is the span from c1 - g2, that´s covered by very young & > fresh

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Mozart Concerto #3

2008-03-03 Thread hans
Musicologist as usual ! They know all much better than the involved instrumentalists . === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William Gross Sent: Monday

RE: [Hornlist] Fingering

2008-03-03 Thread hans
Hello Jonathan, hello Borje Lofblad, If this ignorant bone & tuba guy comes again with some fingering or else advice for your son, tell him FIRMLY he should shut upo as this things were NOT HIS business. Ridiculous. The standard fingering (starting with written c1 (first ledger line below staff

Re: [Hornlist] Fingering

2008-03-03 Thread Jonathan West
On 26/02/2008, Borje Lofblad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hans and other authoritis, > > As a new comer on the french horn and a coach to my grand son I have some > silly questions. No question asked with a genuine desire to learn something is ever silly! > > One of my friends in the brass ban

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Mozart Concerto #3

2008-03-03 Thread William Gross
Hans, Were the professionals you mention below, horn players or musicologist? On 2/2/08, hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yes, Walt, it was possible to make some chromatic trill > scal, but it depends on the work itself. A show piece would > carry such a cadenza, but not a Mozart concerto. Th

[Hornlist] Fingering

2008-03-03 Thread Borje Lofblad
Hans and other authoritis, As a new comer on the french horn and a coach to my grand son I have some silly questions. One of my friends in the brass band where I play my cornet, advocates that the standard fingering for both the Bb side and the F side is not the best choice. I have realised that

Re: [Hornlist] King horn and cut bell

2008-03-03 Thread brassartsunlim
Hi, Kerri, Have a closer look at the valve casings. There must be a serial number on one of them. I'm guessing this horn is a King of vintage roughly 1970s, but the serial number will tell. It is almost certainly post-HN White King and pre-UMI. That might not mean anything to you, but it means

[Hornlist] FW: You've received a question about your eBay item, 50s Vintage Musical Instrument Print Shirtwaist Dress-L

2008-03-03 Thread Ellen Manthe
I cancelled the posting with photos and will try to resend. Sorry again, Ellen -- Forwarded Message From: Ellen Manthe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:03:44 -0600 To: Conversation: You've received a question about your eBay item, 50s Vintage Musical Instrument Print Shirtwaist D

[Hornlist] My goof-up

2008-03-03 Thread Ellen Manthe
Please accept my deepest apologies - I did not mean to send the photos Maggie sent. I am so sorry, because I know people sometimes still use dial-up and this will be extremely S.L.O.W., as in the SLOWSKI FAMILY (Terrapins or Land Turtles - whatever their nomenclature is) on some TV commercial. Me

[Hornlist] King horn and cut bell

2008-03-03 Thread Kerri Bridges
Hi all, I own a battered King and am curious about the model's purpose/history. On the bell, it is inscribed "King Musical Instruments USA" and the only number I can find on it is on the mouthpiece end "1159". Can anyone tell me more about this model or point me in the right direction? Additional

Re: [Hornlist] Vintage dress - NHR

2008-03-03 Thread David A. Jewell
Sunday, March 2, 2008 Ellen Manthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] most of the interest seems to be held by those who probably, with only very few, if any, exceptions, will ever wear the dress, unless it is made into a vest, tie, or boxers. While a vest or boxers would be great there are other possibilities: