Re: [Hornlist] Wooden Mpc

2008-05-30 Thread Tom Warner
On 30 May 2008, at 3:42 am, Christian Wilhjelm wrote: A really wonderful trumpet player/composer Anthony Plog played very successfully for years with a wooden mouthpiece. For some folks metal causes issues with skin conditions for some others it may just be an issue of comfort. While I would

RE: [Hornlist] Wooden Mpc

2008-05-30 Thread Daniel Canarutto
Enrico Caproni, a former (now retired) first horn of the Orchestra del Maggio (Florence, Italy) used to play with an ebony mouthpiece. You can listen to some of his recordings from his website http://www.enricocaproni.it/ I wouldn't say that his tone was dull or uninteresting. Daniel There w

Re: [Hornlist] Wooden Mpc

2008-05-30 Thread Debbie Schmidt
The last time I saw David Baldwin (trumpet soloist, arranger, Professor U of Minn.) he was playing a wooden mpc. He said that quality control in the manufacturing process was not good so he bought several at a time to find a good one. The wood was hard so he said no issues with deterioration if he

RE: [Hornlist] Wooden Mpc

2008-05-30 Thread Pandolfi, Orlando
I'm sure the people who played for me could have sounded fine on a recording as well, although an MP3 off a web site will always sound a bit dull to me regardless of the equipment players use. I'm only going by live, side by side comparison of young professionals who were experimenting at the time

RE: [Hornlist] Wooden Mpc

2008-05-30 Thread Joe Scarpelli
>>Pasta didn't hold up during high fortissimo playing. Did you try A Dente? Joe ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music2.memphis.edu/mailman/options/horn/archive%40jab.org

[Hornlist] potato Mpc

2008-05-30 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Alright then, come on, somebody's got to experiment with this one - can somebody please make a potato mouthpiece and try it out, maybe stick a recording on Youtube? Wouldn't a carrot be better (less material to trim away?) I tremble in anticipation! Cheers, Lawrence lawrenceyates.c

Re: [Hornlist] potato Mpc

2008-05-30 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
Yes, especially if you make the cup of a carrot and the stem of a stick. Then you can controll your horn fully by means of the Carrot & Stick Method. Klaus in DK --- On Fri, 5/30/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Hornlist]

Re: [Hornlist] potato Mpc

2008-05-30 Thread William Gross
Becareful of that which you ask for. On 5/30/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Alright then, come on, somebody's got to experiment with this one - can > somebody please make a potato mouthpiece and try it out, maybe stick a > recording > on Youtube? > > Wouldn't a carrot be bette

RE: [Hornlist] potato Mpc

2008-05-30 Thread hans
They had some plexiglass mouthpieces in the past, but there are frequenzy problems allways. Too heavy mouthpieces & too light mouthpieces might work fine, but never ideal. I experimented with titanium mouthpieces, very costly, superb response but lacking all the strong dynamics, sterling silver is

[Hornlist] on or off leg

2008-05-30 Thread Mark Syslo
I've followed this conversation on playing on and off the leg, and I haven't seen an posts about on or off the leg depending on the music. Umpteen years ago, I saw the Canadian Brass with (I think) David Ohanian. I clearly remembered than when his playing was more ensemble, his horn was on his le

[Hornlist] wooden mpc

2008-05-30 Thread Daniel Costello
About twenty years ago, Ellis Wean, now tuba player with the Vancouver Symphony, developed a line of transparent mouthpieces called "Tru-Vu". They are primarily used for diagnostic purposes for people who want to look at what is going on with their embouchure. They sound OK, but I think Ellis's

[hornlist] wooden mpc

2008-05-30 Thread Daniel Costello
About twenty years ago, Ellis Wean, now tuba player with the Vancouver Symphony, developed a line of transparent mouthpieces called "Tru-Vu". They are primarily used for diagnostic purposes for people who want to look at what is going on with their embouchure. They sound OK, but I think Ellis's

[Hornlist] Re: Wooden Mpcs

2008-05-30 Thread KendallBetts
Ward Fearn made and patented wooden mouthpieces back in the 50's-60's. The basis of his patent was that they changed the sound. To my ears, it was darker, but all of the cups were the very deep, convex funnel type copied from old Kruspe/Dell'Osa mouthpieces popular back then which tended t

[Hornlist] Perspex mouthpiece

2008-05-30 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
I commented on these "see through" mouthpieces many years ago (those who feel so inclined may look up my exact words in the archive) - For those who can't be bothered, (which includes me) I re-iterate what I said then: A friend of mine bought one of these perspex mouthpieces so that he could

[Hornlist] Re: Wooden Mpcs

2008-05-30 Thread Daniel Canarutto
KB wrote: ...His problem was that they would soak up moisture, dry out, soak, dry, etc. and then crack. The end of the shank was very thin and would crack easily as well. Ward said once one cracked in the middle of a concert and rang out like a gunshot! He tried every type of wood he coul

SV: [Hornlist] Perspex mouthpiece

2008-05-30 Thread Sven Bring
Kelly's lexan mpcs are not expensive. I have only tried one of the tuba models, and it was quite OK. http://www.kellymouthpieces.com/french_horn.asp Sven - Ursprungligt meddelande > Från: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Till: horn@music.memphis.edu > Skickat: fredag 30 maj 200

[Hornlist] Re: Horn Position

2008-05-30 Thread Steve Burian
In their first lessons, I simply tell my students rule No. 1: "Bring the instrument to you, don't go to the instrument." If you sit properly and can put it on the knee then fine, otherwise it's off the knee. I do let them move the right leg over to the right or off the edge of the chair if it

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Horn Position

2008-05-30 Thread Rafael Arias
I do exactly the same, doesn't matter wich position they take, without many postures or thoughts like "the knee goes 45 degrees to right, and the head is 90 degrees to the center" =P I just tell them sit or stand like you ussually do, and the most important rule: Quote from Steve: "Bring the instr

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Wooden Mpcs

2008-05-30 Thread Pandolfi, Orlando
As I will be on sabbatical next year, and since I make my own pasta, I will accept Kendall's challenge. I think I will start with the Lawsuono, in honor of our dear mutual friend. The use of shells by the Italian army gave new meaning to "Praise the Lord and pasta ammunition". -Original Mess

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Wooden Mpcs

2008-05-30 Thread Pandolfi, Orlando
Was the oil extra virgin? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Daniel Canarutto Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:09 AM To: The Horn List Subject: [Hornlist] Re: Wooden Mpcs KB wrote: >...His problem was that they would soak up moisture, dry >out

[Hornlist] Re: Horn Digest, Vol 65, Issue 31

2008-05-30 Thread HornCabbage
Steve F wrote: Please forgive a remark which might be seen by some as off-color,  but I expect Cabbage to tell us he played with himself --- meaning with a mouthpiece made of cabbage, of course. * I recently gave my physics of music talk at a local middle school. I concluded with a perfor

RE: [Hornlist] Re: Wooden Mpcs

2008-05-30 Thread Daniel Canarutto
I think it was flaxseed oil with some special treatment, but don't know the details. It was discussed on the Italian Horn Forum at www.forumdelcorno.com Daniel Was the oil extra virgin? -Original Message- What I can tell you is that Enrico did use this ebony mouthpiece as his main m

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Wooden Mpcs

2008-05-30 Thread William Gross
I wonder if he tried mesquite wood. I've seen it used in oil refinery labs and the stuff seems almost indestructible. On 5/30/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ward Fearn made and patented wooden mouthpieces back in the 50's-60's. The > basis of his patent was that they changed

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Wooden Mpcs

2008-05-30 Thread David Goldberg
See the video below for a possible future of do-it-yourself mpc manufacture: http://youtube.com/watch?v=39VJP671LDY also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0m1cVqNsRA&NR=1 and there are other whizbang videos here. David Goldberg ___ post: horn@music.

[Hornlist] Horn Rental in Munich

2008-05-30 Thread Lisa Taylor
Hello All, I will be visiting Munich for a month starting on June 18th, and I was hoping to rent (or borrow with payment) a horn while I am there. I tried this last summer by contacting music stores but was unsuccessful, so I'm asking all you kind horn-listers for advice. I'd also like to know

Re: [Hornlist] Horn Rental in Munich

2008-05-30 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Go to a music shop, tell them your predicament and ask if they'll let you practise in their shop - worked for me in Paris and they even supplied me with coffee whilst i was there! Cheers, Lawrence lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.

Re:[Hornlist] Horn Rental in Munich

2008-05-30 Thread Richard
Perhaps you could schedule a side trip to Markneukirchen and visit some of the many brass shops there (including the VMI factory, Knopf, Mönnig etc.). You could pick up a new or used instrument there for not too much money and use it while on the road. Then maybe sell it in Munich, bring it bac

Re: SV: [Hornlist] Perspex mouthpiece

2008-05-30 Thread Herbert Foster
Be aware that lexan is a polycarbonate plastic. Polycarbonates are made with bisphenol-A (BPA), which is a known endocrine disruptor. There is some controversy of the use of polycarbonates in, e.g. water bottles. The data is not all in. Herb Foster - Original Message From: Sven Bring

[Hornlist] horn position

2008-05-30 Thread William Botte
Why not practice while standing? Then the chair height won't make any difference. (Some) folks that play and practice while seated, horn on knee, have a tendency to face the bell of the horn toward their bellies, deadening their hone tone. Practicing while standing will develop proper postur

[Hornlist] Alphorn Mouthpiece

2008-05-30 Thread Phil Hooks
Does anyone have any personal contact with Tobias Bartschi, the Alphorn maker in Luzerne? I ordered an Alphorn from him when the IHS workshop was in Switzerland, and I was completely satisfied with our association. However, I subsequently sent him a mouthpiece to copy with a wooden mouthpiece. I

Re: [Hornlist] horn position

2008-05-30 Thread jeremy
Quoting William Botte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: If the horn is to heavy for the inevitable whiners, lift weights to develop strength or the piccolo. Bill I tried lifting the piccolo to build strength. It did very little to help. ___ post: horn@musi

[Hornlist] Cameron Kopf - Private request.

2008-05-30 Thread John Roberts-James
Cameron, Mail to you at [EMAIL PROTECTED] keeps bouncing. Please get back to me. I need your snail-mail address to send you a dvd. John Roberts-James http://www.musicforsolohorn.co.uk ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsub

[Hornlist] Re: Wooden Mpc

2008-05-30 Thread Christopher Earnest
For a brief period in about 1952, Mason Jones and Ward Fearn (2nd horn in Philly) tried using rosewood mouthpieces. Fearn had them made up by an industrial concern that had very accurate lathes. I tried one myself for a while. As I remember, the tone was a bit darker than with metal, and Jone

RE: [Hornlist] horn position

2008-05-30 Thread Steve Freides
> -Original Message- > From: William Botte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Why not practice while standing? Then the chair height won't > make any difference. (Some) folks that play and practice > while seated, horn on knee, have a tendency to face the bell > of the horn toward their b

Re: [Hornlist] Wooden Mpc

2008-05-30 Thread Jerryold99
In a message dated 5/29/2008 7:26:31 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The idea of the potato never occurred to any of us. Hi Orlando, so this potato thing is making sense now . when I bought my new horn ... the salesman said .. "would you like fries

[Hornlist] Vegetable Mouthpieces

2008-05-30 Thread Steven Mumford
It could be expected that there would be some who would not let themselves be limited to only potato or pasta mouthpieces. It is rumored that this is the true traditional Viennese sound. We tried making soup out of our instruments after a brass quintet concert once, but I'm sure the resu

Re: [Hornlist] Vegetable Mouthpieces

2008-05-30 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
Or many musicians' preferred source of juice may be applied: http://www.flixxy.com/vb-symphony.htm Klaus --- On Sat, 5/31/08, Steven Mumford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Steven Mumford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Hornlist] Vegetable Mouthpieces > To: horn@music.memphis.edu > Date: S

RE: [Hornlist] Vegetable Mouthpieces

2008-05-30 Thread Jeremy Cucco
Well, if we're making soup out of the instruments, please let me be the first to provide the clams for the chowder. -Original Message- From: "Steven Mumford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: horn@music.memphis.edu Sent: 5/30/08 9:10 PM Subject: [Hornlist] Vegetable Mouthpieces It could be e