RE: [Hornlist] Mpc description on ebay

2009-04-16 Thread Jeremy Cucco
Well - don't forget, it has 9 tuning loops for perfect tune and intonation too! And a detachable bell that can be left on for a fixed bell type horn! I'll take 2! -Original Message- From: David Goldberg [mailto:goldb...@wccnet.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 12:44 AM To: The Horn

[Hornlist] TinyURL (WAS: update to recordings)

2009-04-16 Thread Jim Stellmacher
I agree with Carlberg. However, TinyURL has a feature that allows you to preview the site before being redirected. It is available at http://tinyurl.com/preview.php . This way, you can feel more safe about your final destination. In my experience, many websites that shorten URL's have a similar

Re: [Hornlist] TinyURL (WAS: update to recordings)

2009-04-16 Thread Steve Freides
The standard I have adopted is to always give the full link first, then offer a tinyurl version below it if the link is long. This way everyone knows what they're getting into, and they can always use the full link, by cutting and pasting if they need. -S- On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Jim St

Re: [Hornlist] TinyURL (WAS: update to recordings)

2009-04-16 Thread Lawrence Yates
Steve Freides wrote: "This way everyone knows what they're getting into, and they can always use > the > full link, by cutting and pasting if they need." Errmmm. Take a look at the evidence here: http://lawrenceyates.co.uk http://tinyurl.com/23xpfu Cheers, :-) Lawrence Lawrenceyates.c

[Hornlist] Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread Robson Adabo de Mello
Just curious... Can the stopping valve be used on difficult passages or concertos on non-friendly keys, like E major? If the answer is yes, why the stopping valve is placed just on the Bb side? Is it necessary to play the whole concerto on the Bb (A) side? Is there any double horn with stoppi

Re: [Hornlist] Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 6:25 PM -0300 4/16/09, Robson Adabo de Mello wrote: Can the stopping valve be used on difficult passages or concertos on non-friendly keys, like E major? Sure, no reason not to. By the way, will someone please tell me which of the hundreds of horn concertos are written for stopped horn?

Re: [Hornlist] Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread David Crane
then there was the rotor change valve to E (operated with a sort of switch) on the main turning slide of some old C F Schmidts Dave > At 6:25 PM -0300 4/16/09, Robson Adabo de Mello wrote: >>Can the stopping valve be used on difficult passages or concertos on >>non-friendly keys, like E major? > >

Re: [Hornlist] Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread JohnLWilber
The Alexander 104 and 1104 have A+/E 5th valves. Just same as 103 and 1103 but with 5th valve, two thumb triggers. musik-alexander.de In a message dated 4/16/2009 4:06:30 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, dcr...@willamette.edu writes: then there was the rotor change valve to E (operate

Re: [Hornlist] Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread Paul Rincon
Obviously, there are no horn concertos written exclusively for the stopped horn. The stopping valve can be fitted with a slide (of the correct length) to pitch the horn a half step lower or to function as a true stopping valve for Bb horns. So a Bb horn would turn into an A horn in this manner. It

Re: [Hornlist] Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread Robson Adabo de Mello
Nice! I was searching and found that Kalison has a descant with stopping valve on 2 sides. It's the model L22. http://www.netupandgo.com/frenchhorns/kshtoorder.htm 2009/4/16 > The Alexander 104 and 1104 have A+/E 5th valves. Just same as 103 and > 1103 but with 5th valve, two thumb triggers

Re: [Hornlist] Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 7:38 PM -0400 4/16/09, Paul Rincon wrote: Obviously, there are no horn concertos written exclusively for the stopped horn. Where's the Bear when we need Him? -- Carlberg Jones Skype - carlbergbmug Cornista - Orquesta Sinfónica de Aguascalientes Aguascalientes, Ags. MEXICO _

[Hornlist] Re: Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread David A. Jewell
I would caution that the stopping valve is NOT a 1/2 step valve, rather a 3/4 step valve, designed to compensate for the fact that when stopping in Bb the effect is more than 1/2 step.  Thus that is why it is on the Bb side of the horn.  There is no key change that is effective when using it,  [

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread Dan Phillips
On Apr 16, 2009, at 6:58 PM, David A. Jewell wrote: I would caution that the stopping valve is NOT a 1/2 step valve, rather a 3/4 step valve, designed to compensate for the fact that when stopping in Bb the effect is more than 1/2 step. Thus that is why it is on the Bb side of the horn.

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread David A. Jewell
Most good stopping valve slides are in two pieces, so that the player can choose between stopping and A horn. Dan Is that where they have a manual rotary valve to add or subract the extra length? Paxmaha

RE: [Hornlist] TinyURL (WAS: update to recordings)

2009-04-16 Thread Bill Gross
Lawrence, your website does beg the question did Ronald Yates ever meet up with another famous gunner, Spike Milligan? -Original Message- From: horn-bounces+william.s.gross=gmail@music.memphis.edu [mailto:horn-bounces+william.s.gross=gmail@music.memphis.edu] On Behalf Of Lawrence

[Hornlist] Lassus, a couple of other random thoughts

2009-04-16 Thread David A. Jewell
I want to thank everyone who responded to my query for the LA Horn club's Lassus work. I finally FOUND IT! It is not in fact, a madrigal, it is a short sacred motet title"Afflictus Sum".  It has been rhythmically altered in spots, [very minorly] but it is the same work.  thanks again to all thos

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread Dan Phillips
On Apr 16, 2009, at 7:32 PM, David A. Jewell wrote: Most good stopping valve slides are in two pieces, so that the player can choose between stopping and A horn. Is that where they have a manual rotary valve to add or subract the extra length? No. The slide is in two pieces. One serves a

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread corno911
Hi David, The answer to your question is sometimes. Both Paxman and Alexander offer (as an extra accessory), a slide with a manual change valve. With the valve in the closed position, the slide acts as an A slide. With the valve in the open position, an additional slide length is added to th

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread Robson Adabo de Mello
Like this one? http://www.finkehorns.de/Bilder/Horns/B-Horn-5valves-big.jpg It seens to be a 2 pieces stopping valve. Probably the middle piece is removable... 2009/4/16 Dan Phillips > > On Apr 16, 2009, at 7:32 PM, David A. Jewell wrote: > > Most good stopping valve slides are in two pieces,

Re: [Hornlist] TinyURL (WAS: update to recordings)

2009-04-16 Thread Steve Freides
The standard I have adopted assumes people trust me, and that I provide a tinyurl to help them in case the longer one word wraps poorly, which is the only reasons I use the things. I would not click on any link provided by someone I didn't trust, tiny, gigantic, or anywhere in between. -S- On Th

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread Robson Adabo de Mello
It must be something like that: http://hornplayer.net/images/forsale/8721.jpg Robson Hi David, The answer to your question is sometimes. Both Paxman and Alexander offer (as an extra accessory), a slide with a manual change valve. With the valve in the closed position, the slide acts as an A

Re: RE: AW: [Hornlist] update to recordings (Tiny URLs)

2009-04-16 Thread Simon Varnam
On 2009/04/17, at 2:00, horn-requ...@music.memphis.edu wrote: From: Carlberg Jones Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 2:16 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: AW: [Hornlist] update to recordings At 11:58 AM -0700 4/15/09, Tim Johnson wrote: For those who post such links, please read on..., there i

Re: [Hornlist] Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread Steve Freides
Robson Adabo de Mello wrote: > Can the stopping valve be used on difficult passages or concertos on > non-friendly keys, like E major? If a rank amateur can chime in here, the answer is yes - a valve is a valve, and you can use it for whatever you like, provided you have fitted it with a length

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread corno911
Robson, That is exactly it. Paul -Original Message- From: Robson Adabo de Mello To: The Horn List Sent: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:34 pm Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Re: Stopping valve It must be something like that: http://hornplayer.net/images/forsale/8721.jpg Robson Hi David, The answer

Re: [Hornlist] Re: Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread JohnLWilber
Paul, I have a Alexander 103 with a manual A+ slide that fits in the Bb tuning slide tubes off the change valve, with the valve closed horn functions as a normal 103 F/Bb with the valve open as an F/A or adjusting it's tuning slide Stopped. John In a message dated 4/16/2009 7:16:23 P.M. US Mou

Re: [Hornlist] Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread Robson Adabo de Mello
> > You're forgetting about an important difference between the horn and > the trumpet - because the horn plays higher in the overtone series, > making more notes possible, there is less need for a horn pitched in a > specific key. People used to, e.g., have an Eb crook for their F > horns, but al

[Hornlist] Lassus, a couple of other random thoughts

2009-04-16 Thread David A. Jewell
- Forwarded Message From: David A. Jewell To: Carlberg Jones Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009 11:29:47 PM Subject: Re: [Hornlist] Lassus, a couple of other random thoughts I originally posted:  You will need a way to view the file, I suggest Finale Reader, a free download that enabl

[Hornlist] Re: Stopping valve

2009-04-16 Thread Carl Ek
Ah yes. Stopping valve questions ... always good fodder for the hornlist discussion group(s). Let me add some comments. Carlbergnow is your chance to commission that Concierto de Juarez for Stopped Horn and Orquestra. Heck write it yourself and have a premiere !!! Paul tsk tsk The

[Hornlist] Beethoven 4, B-flat alto or basso?

2009-04-16 Thread bangs
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