I have the feeling that I may have replied to Ed Glick's query on the
wrong list. Or perhaps he asked both lists. For what it's worth, here's
my contribution:
I believe that the New Symphony Model Kruspe (definitely no umlaut)
was specifically
developed in the 1920s to create a full double
Subject: [Hornlist] Kruspe Horns
I have the feeling that I may have replied to Ed Glick's query on the
wrong list. Or perhaps he asked both lists. For what it's worth, here's
my contribution:
I believe that the New Symphony Model Kruspe (definitely no umlaut)
was specifically
developed in the 1920s
Here are some observations I would like to share in regards to some of
the recent postings on the horn list.
First of all, as to the Schmidt mouthpipe being called a a narrow
taper mouthpipe, I think that this is somewhat misleading terminology.
The generally accepted description by most
I forgot to include this link in my last posting. It's a later Kruspe
catalogue, I think, that illustrates the horns, but without the model
numbers (with one exception). There are also a couple of additional horn
models shown:
http://www.geocities.co.jp/MusicHall-Horn/2569/kruspe/krusp.html
Dawn,
I think that there is another answer: You simply aren't seeing the
music that has the good horn parts. Trust me, there are composers
and arrangers of modern band music who definitely know how to write
good horn parts.
Carlisle
On Nov 24, 2007, at 9:12 PM, Dawn McCandless wrote:
The minimum asking for the horn is not really a question that can be fully
answered except to say it is being sold with no reserve. Also, that it is only
for sale in the U.S. Canada because of other problems I've had shipping these
kinds of things over seas. It took 3 months for a mouthpiece
It is a single horn in F. Looked up the pictures on line and it is definately
a Leipzig model. I've had a long time set up with eBay to sell a few things
here and there. Mostly buy my guitar supplies and watch for necessary brass
things to buy such as my son's sused baritone, etc. When the
What will your minimum be if I might ask?
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It is a single horn in F. Looked up the pictures
Hi Everyone,
Due to sudden crisis in our lives other things are more important to us right
now I have decided to sell my battered Kruspe single horn. I know eBay is
unconventional for professional horn people. I'm just letting you know if this
is allowed. That is where I occasionally sell a
Try the hornplayer first. Talk to Ken Pope and te Brss Arts Unlimited folks
first.
Is it a single f or Bb?
tom in iowa
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On Nov 18, 2007, at 10:00 PM, Hunt,Thomas wrote:
Try the hornplayer first. Talk to Ken Pope and te Brss Arts
Unlimited folks first.
This gives me an opportunity to plug the newly redesigned IHS Online
web site, which includes a new and vastly improved marketplace, where
members can buy,
Thank you all for your help with the horn. I am on a relatives computer that was
able to get the Japanese site with the pictures. It is a 1930 Waldhorn in F
Modell Leipzig. Thank you all!
Dawn Marie
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A bit more on the Kruspe: The rotor caps, slide casings, lead pipe, little
finger hook, thumb hook, the ferrule where the bell flare meets the body of the
horn, brace to bell and diamond shaped plate on the bell are silver colored.
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Dawn:
Nickel-silver braces, rotor caps, valve slide casings, etc. as you
describe are standard practice on most brass horns. But where is the
worn ring you describe? Is it around the bell throat or the perimeter
(rim) of the bell? Some horns have an ornamental krantz (wreath) in a
Hi Dawn:
As far as I know, Kruspe horns rarely, if ever, had actual production
serial numbers. What they often had, however, was the design patent
number engraved on the bell below the Kruspe eagle trademark. The design
patent number is commonly preceded by the initials D.R.G.M (Deutsches
I would doubt that any horns were made in Germany in 1942 for any purpose:
brass was a critical material. Does anyone know for sure? In fact, I'm still
surprised that horns were made in the US in 1945. My first horn was a King,
brand new, in 1945. It was the Kruspe copy with the upside down change
Richard's description of pre-WW II Kruspe horns matches, for the most part, my
horn. I bought my double Kruspe in 1940. I was told then it was about twenty
years old, so that would mean the horn was built around 1920. As far as I can
see, there is nothing that looks like a typical serial number
Hi Ed:
That number is presumably a part identification number. On my New
Symphony Model Kruspe, the thumb valve cap and upper bearing plate are
stamped with 35, while the other three valve caps and bearing plates
are stamped 12, 11. and 10. My guess is that these numbers were
employed to
Hi,
Just obtained an old Single Kruspe horn. Where would one find any serial
numbers? There is a 16 on the bottom of the middle valve cap. Is that it?
The horn is brass, has string rotors and says: EDKRUSPE, ERFURT and Made in
Germany. It was the previous owners fathers horn and he is
--- Dawn McCandless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Just obtained an old Single Kruspe horn. Where would one find any serial
numbers? There is a
16 on the bottom of the middle valve cap. Is that it?
The horn is brass, has string rotors and says: EDKRUSPE, ERFURT and Made in
Germany. It
When did Kruspe stop making horns? Is there a website that has a history of
the company?
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When did Kruspe stop making horns? Is there a website that has a history
of
the company?
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When did Kruspe stop making horns? Is there a website that has a history of
the company?
Hi,
I believe they're still in business. Try:
_www.edkruspe.de_ (http://www.edkruspe.de)
Regards,
Hello,
I know that this topic comes up every now and then, but I hope you'll bear
with me. What are the supposed advantages/disadvantages of Kruspe-style and
Geyer-style wraps?
Thanks in advanced!
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Ash Brown wrote
I know that this topic comes up every now and then, but I
hope you'll bear with me. What are the supposed
advantages/disadvantages of Kruspe-style and Geyer-style wraps?
Thanks in advanced!
I suggest you look at the archives as this was discussed quite recently,
perhaps a
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Subject: RE: [Hornlist] Kruspe vs Geyer wrap horns
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 10:20:56 -0400
Adam Black wrote:
Hello - I am an amateur (returning) player, looking at
upgrading my current horn in the near future (a yamaha 661).
I have been reading
Adam Black wrote:
Hello - I am an amateur (returning) player, looking at
upgrading my current horn in the near future (a yamaha 661).
I have been reading a bit on what horn may be useful. I am
still a bit confused over the Geyer vs Kruspe wrapped horns -
differences, pros/cons etc. Can
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From: Jay Sewell
To: horn@music.memphis.edu
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 12:47 AM
Subject: [Hornlist] Kruspe/Holton (was Holton's German Design team)
I'm not at all familiar with the Holton horn in question, but I can shed a
bit of light concerning the Kruspe New Symphony model. I
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Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 12:47 AM
Subject: [Hornlist] Kruspe/Holton (was Holton's German Design team)
I'm not at all familiar with the Holton horn in question, but I can shed a
bit of light concerning the Kruspe New Symphony model. I bought this one as
a basket case and had
date: Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:57:12 -0500
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Wrong list or not, I had heard the same story from Farkas, he told
them=
=20
they had the worst horn in the business and they asked him to help design
a=
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Dee Anne and others,
I am afraid that you are going to have to go to the other list for my reply.
It popped up there. Very strange because I know that I answered from this
list.
Mark L.
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Hey All,
Who would you suggest I contact to make the horn's availability known
out of the USA?
Thanks, Paul LaFollette
Toru Ikeno wrote:
Greetings from Japan,
Drive the Delorian and visit Japan in early 1990s.
http://www.bttfmovie.com/
Japanese Yen was very strong to US dollar and
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Hey All,
Who would you suggest I contact to make the horn's availability known
out of the USA?
Thanks, Paul LaFollette
Toru Ikeno wrote:
Greetings from Japan,
Drive the Delorian and visit Japan in early 1990s.
http
Masako Owada? She might have eight Gs to spend on a horn. Seriously
though, why not list it again on hornplayer.net?
http://hornplayer.net/ How about yahoo.japan?
You ain't gonna get the biggest bucks from a north american, but you
never know...
Bob Marlatt
Boston MA
Who would you suggest I
I saw that horn at Paxman, but mine is nickel silver from the 1920's (so
Walt Lawson said in his appraisal) with the backwards change valve.
Paul
Tom Warner wrote:
On Wednesday, August 27, 2003, at 02:58 AM, Paul S. LaFollette wrote:
I've heard rumors of very high ($8000.00 to $10,000.00)
Hey, All
I have a Kruspe Anton Horner model I'd like to sell, and I was
wondering if anyone out there knows what the demand for these types of
instruments is these days.
It was played in the Philadelphia Orchestra for number of years by Mr.
Randy Gardner, and I have been told that it can be
Paul wrote:
I've heard rumors of very high ($8000.00 to $10,000.00) prices being
paid
for these instruments in Japan,
Greetings from Japan,
Drive the Delorian and visit Japan in early 1990s.
http://www.bttfmovie.com/
Japanese Yen was very strong to US dollar and nobody knows the
Paul:
There was little interest because the world has gone Schmid crazy.
Julio de la Rosa
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Hey, All
I have a Kruspe Anton
Very simple:
Kruspe sounds exactly as crew´s - pe - the last e like in pedagogical. The
emphasis is on the first syllabe. *
Merry Christmas
Hans
When I listen to the CNN speakers notice their pronounciation of your language, I
would like to stop them speaking with their idiotic
Ignore CNN. It is the voice of Ted Turner and others of the enlightened
intelligentsia, definitely not that of America.
Oh, and don't forget Pockeeston.
Merry Christmas
John Baumgart
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Achah ! Wherre arre yoo umming fdom, sirr ? Arrent you priviledsched ? Are you dearer
? - Sorry, with all the Intel-ee-gen-tsia, the half Chinese cheap maker.
Merry Christmas John
Hans
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Not to open up opinion time, but can someone help with the proper
pronunciation of Kruspe? I have heard so many variations, I don't know where
to start.
Thanks,
Phil
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In the USA, it seems that there are several new versions of Kruspe wrap
horns being introduced and gaining in popularity - for example - Holton
Merker, Patterson, Patterson conversion, Atkinson, Osmun conversion, new
Yamaha 668II, and maybe others. Also the new 8D's seem to continue to be
popular
I'm curious why it matters. There are plenty of people who play each
general style - I say play what you like...
B
On Wednesday, November 27, 2002, at 04:59 PM, J. Kosta wrote:
It seemed that for a while the Geyer wrap, and 'smaller throated' horns
were all the rage. Has the pendulum swung
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The Kruspe vs. Geyer debate will probably continue for many years. In
addition to preference, don't forget that the popular style is very
regional. I play a Merker (very happily), and live near Chicago.
Phil Jacobs
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