RE: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-26 Thread Joe Scarpelli
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 1:12 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] curious pricing yet again it is assumed that the beginning horn student starts out with a private teacherthis is false, maybe in Europe, but no

Re: [Hornlist] Curious pricing

2006-02-25 Thread Greg Campbell
WIlliam Botte wrote: A young oboist in the local high school band was required to play a bell front F marching horn. She was annoyed to discover that the notes she was playing sounded lower than read. Her remarks, "Who dreamed up this stupid system!", I guess she'd never gotten to play the

Re: [Hornlist] Curious pricing

2006-02-25 Thread CORNO911
In a message dated 2/25/06 5:06:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On Feb 25, 2006, at 4:58 PM, WIlliam Botte wrote: > > Why continue this nonesence? > > Republish every thing horn in F or C. InĀ  one clef. > I am not sure whether anyone has mentioned it yet, but one of the reasons for having th

Re: [Hornlist] Curious pricing

2006-02-25 Thread Richard Smith
Just a few questions: 1.. Shall we have the music put in tenor or alto clef? 2.. Who will make sure that all publishers co-operate? 3.. What do we do when and older part is the only one available and none of the hornists knows how to read it? Most instruments have some aspects of their notat

Re: [Hornlist] Curious pricing

2006-02-25 Thread Dan Phillips
On Feb 25, 2006, at 4:58 PM, WIlliam Botte wrote: Why continue this nonesence? Republish every thing horn in F or C. In one clef. It's a simple matter to republish everything, not quite so simple getting anyone to buy it. Why should an orchestra buy a new set of parts for Beethoven 5 when

RE: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-25 Thread Steve Freides
Orlando Pandolfi wrote: > This brings ups some interesting questions that I > have had for a while now. As one who has taught > both in the US and in Europe, I must say that the > system of solfege, clef reading, and ear training > that formed the basis of musicianship for my > European stu

RE: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-25 Thread Pandolfi, Orlando
perhaps some historical perspective from Hans and others who have been in the business much longer than I. Orlando -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hans.Pizka Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 2:21 AM To: 'The Horn List' Subject: RE:

Re: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-24 Thread LTraxx
yes Hans, we do live on different planets, but we agree on one thing, the bottom line is the music! Some will study many many years and never get it. Thanks for the info Larry ___ post: horn@music.memphis.edu unsubscribe or set options at http://music

RE: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-24 Thread Hans.Pizka
OTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 7:12 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] curious pricing yet again it is assumed that the beginning horn student starts out with a private teacherthis is false, maybe in Europe, but not here in the

Re: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-24 Thread LTraxx
yet again it is assumed that the beginning horn student starts out with a private teacherthis is false, maybe in Europe, but not here in the states. Usually a young student picks up the horn on the first day of school and then has to sit next to everyone else in band class and learn to play

RE: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-24 Thread Bill Gross
In one of my various careers I was a Structural Engineer. I started that profession at the same time electronic calculators and computers were replacing slide rules and electric calculators.(*) There were methods for analyzing the behavior of building under load that had been developed for hand cal

Re: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-24 Thread Martin Bender
Hello all, Larry, please don't speak for me! I've been playing and studying the horn for over 35 years (some professionally), still practice daily, including such mundane things as scales, long tones and 'non- transposed' orchestral excerpts, and don't consider myself a "nobody". No German

RE: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-24 Thread Hans.Pizka
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 8:23 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] curious pricing simple task of transposing?? Maybe simple to you. Was there once a time when the great Hans, was not so great at transposition? Maybe even

Re: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-24 Thread LTraxx
simple task of transposing?? Maybe simple to you. Was there once a time when the great Hans, was not so great at transposition? Maybe even a bit scared? I know you would never admit that! I have seen many young students play the heck out of Ravel's Piano Concerto in G...they were too young to b

RE: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-24 Thread Bill Gross
It does raise some interesting "philosophical" questions. At what point does change in available technology become a blessing or a curse? As to Tuckwell's participation, well there is a story involving the actor Michael Caine and I believe Sir John Gielgud that occurred early in Caine's career.

RE: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-23 Thread Hans.Pizka
stics". === -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 5:02 AM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: Re: [Hornlist] curious pricing Do you have to slam everything Hans? I have some ne

RE: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-23 Thread Hans.Pizka
ell Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:54 PM To: The Horn List Subject: RE: [Hornlist] curious pricing "Hans.Pizka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Or do you meanthere were e.g. two parts for every concert, the original part to be transposed & the other part transposed allready?

RE: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-23 Thread Hans.Pizka
pson Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 8:43 PM To: horn@music.memphis.edu Subject: RE: [Hornlist] curious pricing >If one is not capable to >transpose a simple Mozart text with a minimum of accidentals & most >simple melodies plus a few runs or arpeggios to E-flat, he or she is >not

Re: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-23 Thread LTraxx
Do you have to slam everything Hans? I have some news for you, some of us don't count every time we play the long call and don't post it on our website. Believe it or not there are people out there who play the horn for fun, not to defecate all over the great Wolfgang Mozart by using the sacrile

RE: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-23 Thread David Jewell
"Hans.Pizka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Or do you meanthere were e.g. two parts for every concert, the original part to be transposed & the other part transposed allready? By "natural horn part" I simply meant the original part for horn in D and horn in Eb. I was using the t

RE: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-23 Thread jim thompson
>If one is not capable to >transpose a simple Mozart text with a minimum of accidentals >& most simple melodies plus a few runs or arpeggios to >E-flat, he or she is not worth playing this genius. >Punctum ! Then should it follow then that if one can't spell and grammatically write English proper

Re: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-23 Thread billbamberg
Salesmen have used the old 'two for the price of three' routine since money was invented. If they get too greedy remind them that, you can fleece a sheep over and over, but you can only skin it once. -Original Message- From: David Jewell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: horngroup <[EMAIL PROTECT

RE: [Hornlist] curious pricing

2006-02-23 Thread Hans.Pizka
Sorry, I did not know that there was a separate natural horn part for the Mozart concerti. Was I doing wrong using the original parts when playing them on my original 18th century natural horn ? Please, enlight me kindly. Or do you mean there were e.g. two parts for every concert, the original part