[HOT] who can validate in TM3?

2017-12-21 Thread john whelan
There seems to be some new restriction on some mappers. Thanks John ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot

Re: [HOT] who can validate in TM3?

2017-12-21 Thread john whelan
given the role by a project manager. You can also restrict mapping to only > those who have achieved (or been promoted) to Intermediate or Advanced > mapper status. > > > > Merry Mapping! > > =Russ > > > > *From:* john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] >

Re: [HOT] who can validate in TM3?

2017-12-21 Thread john whelan
you intend to map; on the bottom > of the description is the ‘metadata’ section; including at the very bottom > “Mapper level required” and “Validator role required”. If mapper level is > required, it correlates to the Difficulty. > > > > Welcome! > > =Russ > > &g

Re: [HOT] Highway=track

2017-12-21 Thread john whelan
ts: the > equipement is very minimalist (including for sanitisation or drinkable > water, just collected in nearby rivers) and the rest of the time the tracks > will not be maintained or could be vegetated. They will become visible > again during short periods of activity. > > >

[HOT] A request that HOT projects in Africa use a custom version of iD

2017-12-24 Thread john whelan
Whilst working on the Stat Can building project I was made aware that a customised version of iD was possible. In Africa one of the data quality problems is the highways being tagged as living_street by new mappers. It isn't in the African highway wiki as an option but it is in the standard versi

Re: [HOT] Highway=track

2017-12-26 Thread john whelan
Apparently iD can be invoked with customised presets. Another item on the TM3 to do list perhaps. Cheerio John On 26 December 2017 at 18:07, yo paseopor wrote: > I think We need some preset for JOSM or customized iD for these HOT custom > project or specific zone configurations. > > Salut i pr

Re: [HOT] Highway=track

2017-12-27 Thread john whelan
roads to houses with metal roofs > are unclassified or residential (not path). > > Do you all agree? > Bjoern > > On 21 Dec 2017 15:44, "john whelan" wrote: > > It's come up in the OSMand mailing list that these aren't shown at higher > zoom le

[HOT] Comment to project managers of Building projects

2017-12-27 Thread john whelan
A snapshot of 10% of Uganda gave me 870 duplicate buildings. This is where two buildings overlap by more than 50%. This is merely to give you an idea of the scope of the problem. If you are relying on the data then running Mike Thompson's detect building script will find any duplicates in your pro

Re: [HOT] Comment to project managers of Building projects

2017-12-27 Thread john whelan
n stage, or > perhaps run by the task owner)? > > If anybody wants to get together to discuss those planning/ best > practice-related issues, I'd be very happy to join in! > > Bjoern > > On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 at 19:12, john whelan wrote: > >> A snapshot of 10% of Ugand

Re: [HOT] Highway=track

2017-12-28 Thread john whelan
ns in other contexts around the > world. > N.B. Even within these North Uganda settlements, addressing changes from > one settlement to the next, sometimes even when settlements are > neighbouring. > > I shall post some more information and some kind of table on the Wiki, as > thin

[HOT] Using Wifi to make phone calls from mobiles using a router.

2018-01-10 Thread john whelan
The problem was mentioned some time ago in reference to a refugee camp in Europe. You need csip simple and to know the phone's ip address. IP checker is a simple free app that will how this. "Just install csip simple and create a profile called "user", not linked to any server. To call another p

Re: [HOT] Using Wifi to make phone calls from mobiles using a router.

2018-01-11 Thread john whelan
18 at 07:08, Milo van der Linden wrote: > Please contact http://www.servalproject.org their project focuses exactly > on this matter. > > On Jan 11, 2018 12:59 AM, "john whelan" wrote: > >> The problem was mentioned some time ago in reference to a refugee camp in >

Re: [HOT] Using Wifi to make phone calls from mobiles using a router.

2018-01-11 Thread john whelan
g (p2p >> or via server) so that you know whether you're safe on WiFi or killing the >> internet connection... >> >> There is an app called FireChat, that apparently can do p2p off-internet. >> It's proprietary, and I haven't looking into it much. Howe

[HOT] Technical Building gossip

2018-02-02 Thread john whelan
There are a number of initiatives going forward including one in Canada but it would appear that it should be possible to extract building footprints fairly accurately using this method. "I confirm that we (NRCAN) are working on a process to extract building footprints from airborne LiDAR data "

Re: [HOT] LGBTQ people at HOT Summit? [WAS: SAVE THE DATE Aug 27-Sep 2: HOT and FOSS4G Together in Tanzania]

2018-02-16 Thread john whelan
Perhaps the board could come up with a policy that either says we don't care about such things and recognise that it will be dangerous for some to attend or we only hold HOT summits in places that are safe from local laws for all. It should certainly be drawn to the attention of anyone planning to

[HOT] Recent perceptions on the Aid charities

2018-02-25 Thread john whelan
Do we care? Are we seeing a drop off in the numbers mapping? Could someone put some numbers in so we can see a % figure on how bad the problem is? My expectation is considering the numbers involved the fraction of aid workers involved would be very low. The expense of vetting local volenteers o

[HOT] mapping buildings or houses with a smartphone?

2018-03-06 Thread john whelan
I've come across a few hundred that have been mapped as bus_stops using maps.me on smartphones in Togo. These have been mapped as nodes. Does anyone have any suggestions on a better way to map them? Ideally using maps.me since that would keep the training simpler. Poor internet connections so i

Re: [HOT] mapping buildings or houses with a smartphone?

2018-03-06 Thread john whelan
Do we have a wiki page anywhere that lists the off line mapping options? Thanks John On 6 March 2018 at 11:54, john whelan wrote: > I've come across a few hundred that have been mapped as bus_stops using > maps.me on smartphones in Togo. > > These have been mapped as nodes

Re: [HOT] Using a pen tablet for mapping input

2018-03-13 Thread john whelan
My feeling is tablets are not ideal unless you use a mouse, a wireless one would work fine. It's a matter of control, I have a Microsoft surface tablet lying around it has the computing power but until I used a wireless mouse with it I had difficulty with the pen. JOSM should run under ubuntu. C

Re: [HOT] Using a pen tablet for mapping input

2018-03-13 Thread john whelan
ntrol. Cheerio John On 13 March 2018 at 21:23, Lists wrote: > That isn't the type of tablet I am talking about - not an iPad but the > type graphic designers use. > > > > Bryan Sayer > > > ---- Original message > From: john whelan > Date: 03/13/2018

Re: [HOT] Nominations open for new HOT voting members!

2018-03-19 Thread john whelan
Pete I've noticed a number of your messages are being directed to SPAM by Gmail. This is one of them. Cheerio John This message has a from address in googlemail.com but has failed googlemail.com's required tests for authentication. Learn more

[HOT] Untagged Buildings created by JOSM

2018-03-30 Thread john whelan
I'm seeing a number of these. If you are using JOSM to map square buildings please use the building_tool plugin. If you're running a mapathon and notice mappers are using JOSM perhaps give them a nudge if they aren't using teh building_tool plugin. Thanks John ___

[HOT] hotosm task 580? in Namibia

2018-04-23 Thread john whelan
names ending in Westwood possibly some sort of school? I've added tags to a few hundred untagged ways. There doesn't seem to be a task 580 in HOT the mapping is fairly recent. Is here any way to give a bit of feedback since there are so many untagged ways? Mainly buildings, well roughly where t

Re: [HOT] hotosm task 580? in Namibia

2018-04-23 Thread john whelan
On 23 April 2018 at 18:55, wrote: > Hi John, > > > > Possibly from another TM instance (i.e. if they left the default changeset > comment)? So best bet is probably just directly giving feedback to the > mapper via changeset discussion or message via their profile. > > >

Re: [HOT] You tell us! What should we talk about at HOT Summit 2018?

2018-06-02 Thread john whelan
Perhaps a better idea might be what can be done with the data? AI mapping isn't yet accepted by OpenStreetMap. Getting some templates in something like R r.org that can be used locally by bodies such as municipal government adds value to the mapping. Hopefully mappers seeing more use being made

[HOT] Buildings in DR Congo

2018-06-10 Thread john whelan
I'm seeing a fair number of duplicates. #hotosm-project-4696 and #hotosm-project-4708 appear to overlap. I'm unable to reach either on the tasking manager. Cheerio John ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listin

Re: [HOT] Buildings in DR Congo

2018-06-10 Thread john whelan
? > >> > >> As TM is not available for validation, maybe the three task areas can be > >> used for manual search. > >> > >> Cheers > >> Henning (hebolz) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >&

Re: [HOT] Critical Numbers Tool: Find Tasking Manager projects which need validation

2018-06-29 Thread john whelan
Just a comment it might be nice if some more validation could be organised. I've just picked up 845 highway=road from one inexperienced HOT mapper, about fifty ways tagged both building=yes and highway=road. Although Blake did a nice job cleaning up 500 duplicates buildings but Malawi still has s

[HOT] What are the requirements for mapping buildings in Africa specifically in villages

2018-07-04 Thread john whelan
In the ideal world we can gain a lot of information from a perfectly mapped building. Unfortunately in the real world using beginners and editors without a building_tool we end up with imperfectly mapped buildings. Would we be better mapping them as nodes? It faster and studies have shown asking

[HOT] building=yes both on the way and on the nodes

2018-07-08 Thread john whelan
I'm seeing a fair number of these especially in CHAD. Could someone do an overpass or whatever to see how big a problem it is? and they were done months ago by mappers who haven't mapped recently. Thanks John ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org

Re: [HOT] building=yes both on the way and on the nodes

2018-07-08 Thread john whelan
eke Vyncke wrote: > Where in Chad is this John? > > Jorieke > > 2018-07-08 15:09 GMT+01:00 john whelan : > >> I'm seeing a fair number of these especially in CHAD. Could someone do >> an overpass or whatever to see how big a problem it is? >> >> an

Re: [HOT] building=yes both on the way and on the nodes

2018-07-08 Thread john whelan
Vyncke wrote: > Where in Chad is this John? > > Jorieke > > 2018-07-08 15:09 GMT+01:00 john whelan : > >> I'm seeing a fair number of these especially in CHAD. Could someone do >> an overpass or whatever to see how big a problem it is? >> >>

Re: [HOT] building=yes both on the way and on the nodes

2018-07-08 Thread john whelan
> On Sun, July 8, 2018 4:09 pm, john whelan wrote: > > I'm seeing a fair number of these especially in CHAD. Could someone do > an > > overpass or whatever to see how big a problem it is? > > I loaded the following query into JOSM: > > [out:xml]; > {{geocod

Re: [HOT] building=yes both on the way and on the nodes

2018-07-08 Thread john whelan
Thank you. Cheerio John On 8 July 2018 at 15:36, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > On 2018-07-08 21:22, john whelan wrote: > > I suspect its more general than just Chad since its more than one mapper. > At 2,657 in Chad I'd say that's liveable with unless some kind soul could

Re: [HOT] building=yes both on the way and on the nodes

2018-07-08 Thread john whelan
--> osm keys (except source) on buidings child nodes */ > [out:xml][timeout:60]; > > way({{bbox}})["building"]->.b; > node(w.b)[!"source"](if:count_tags()>0); > out meta;<; out meta; > >; out meta; > > > Pierre > > > Le dimanche 8 juil

Re: [HOT] Currently issues with OSM servers

2018-07-25 Thread john whelan
Generically when databases are overloaded they sometimes work better in the early morning or before noon GMT. One technical reason is the log files are shorter. So if you've been working in JOSM just save the file then try an upload early next morning. This also works on overloaded internet conn

Re: [HOT] use of landuse=Farm Land

2018-08-01 Thread john whelan
These things do get picked up and corrected by mappers other than HOT valifactors. If you are proposing a mechanical edit then there is due process which should probably be followed if only to set a good example. The other method is to bring them into JOSM select them. Correct them then load the

Re: [HOT] Learning to Use Machine Learning - A learn along for folks who want to be using ML in their work.

2018-08-09 Thread john whelan
One does hope that a manual check will be part of the process? Thanks John On 9 August 2018 at 08:10, Blake Girardot wrote: > Dear Friends, > > In case you missed it, Dale Kunce tweeted this out yesterday: > > The day of Machine Learning and OSM/Humanitarian mapping reckoning is > getting close

Re: [HOT] Learning to Use Machine Learning - A learn along for folks who want to be using ML in their work.

2018-08-09 Thread john whelan
forward to learning and working on these issues together. On Thu, Aug 9, 2018 at 6:02 AM john whelan wrote: > One does hope that a manual check will be part of the process? > > Thanks John > > On 9 August 2018 at 08:10, Blake Girardot wrote: > >> Dear Friends, >>

[HOT] Open Location Code

2018-08-11 Thread john whelan
Open Location Code or Plus code is just a method of representing latitude and longitude in a more human friendly way. It was originally created by Google but has been released under an open licence. It is possible to set osmand to show coordinates as OLC. This means it can display the OLC code f

Re: [HOT] Open Location Code

2018-08-11 Thread john whelan
rt. This is a potential useful system that seems well suited to > solve some use cases in some locations but must be really wanted by > the local community and driven from the ground up, hopefully in > conjunction with other local actors in the area. > > Cheers John, > blake > &g

Re: [HOT] Open Location Code

2018-08-11 Thread john whelan
;61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> + 1 with John Whelan >> >> Every place already has an "address" simply called latitude, longitude. >> The Open Location Code is simply another way of expressing that latitude, >> longitude. >> >> If some platfo

Re: [HOT] Open Location Code

2018-08-12 Thread john whelan
ed OLC instead of the degrees. > > https://twitter.com/BlakeGirardot/status/1028689726088388609 > > Cheers > blake > > Cheers > blake > > On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 2:55 PM, john whelan > wrote: > > Open Location Code or Plus code is just a method of representing latitude >

Re: [HOT] Open Location Code

2018-08-13 Thread john whelan
> Le dim. 12 août 2018 à 20:46, john whelan a > écrit : > >> So you could use them as postcode equivalents. Is any statistical data >> available associated with an area? Such as population etc? The area used >> to collect the data might be a better choice. >> >&

[HOT] Overpass and schools in Mali

2018-08-26 Thread john whelan
One of the nice things about schools is they have pupils which implies people living nearby. In Mali there appears to be an import of schools based on UNICEF data. amenity=school source=UNICEF Could some nice person put together an overpass of any schools that are not within a landuse=residential

Re: [HOT] Overpass and schools in Mali

2018-08-26 Thread john whelan
y serve, but rather about 1/2 km or so outside of the town, or > about halfway between two or more towns. So a significant number > actually shouldn't be in a residential area. > > > -AndrewBuck > > > > > On 08/26/2018 11:24 AM, john whelan wrote: > >

Re: [HOT] Overpass and schools in Mali

2018-08-26 Thread john whelan
; >> about halfway between two or more towns. So a significant number > >> actually shouldn't be in a residential area. > >> > >> > >> -AndrewBuck > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 08/26/2018 11:24 AM, john w

Re: [HOT] Overpass and schools in Mali

2018-09-01 Thread john whelan
ation. However it could do with a few more highways. Cheerio John On 31 August 2018 at 22:29, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote: > On 2018-08-26 18:24, john whelan wrote: > > In Mali there appears to be an import of schools based on UNICEF data. > amenity=school source=UNICEF > [..] &g

[HOT] counting buildings - ( 2020 project ) - help please.

2018-09-12 Thread john whelan
One problems with this mapping project is it is difficult to see how many have been mapped. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada/Building_Canada_2020 So I've been playing. The .OSM data structure does not lend it self easily to this sort of thing. In particular you don't know

[HOT] software for counting buildings use it if you feel it might be useful otherwise just ignore it.

2018-10-10 Thread John Whelan
It was originally designed so that feedback could be given to mappers tagging buildings in a city without resorting to overpass and other more technical solutions. It shows how many tags have been added and how rich they are.  It generates both list of tags used building= and other associated

Re: [HOT] Getting the Bounding Boxes of the Validated Regions

2018-11-20 Thread john whelan
Essentially you are proposing an import. There are OpenStreetMap rules about how this should be done. It can be done, Microsoft has released building outlines for the US which were created in this manner but the import itself is being done in sections by conventional mappers. You will need the c

Re: [HOT] Getting the Bounding Boxes of the Validated Regions

2018-11-20 Thread John Whelan
b is done or projected to be done? Me too was asking if it makes sense to apply algorithm to detect damaged buildings on imagery to leverage the mapping speed in disaster affected areas? All the best, Georgy On Tue, Nov 20, 2018 at 3:29 PM john whelan <mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> wrote:

[HOT] Slack closing "suspect" accounts with connections to certain countries.

2018-12-20 Thread John Whelan
You may lose access to messages and files. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-46642760 Just something to be aware of. Cheerio John ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot

Re: [HOT] Slack closing "suspect" accounts with connections to certain countries.

2018-12-27 Thread John Whelan
John, Thanks for bringing this up. Does this mean we are excluding by default certain people by using Slack? Cheers, Jorieke Op vr 21 dec. 2018 om 00:45 schreef John Whelan <mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>>: You may lose access to messages and files. https://www.bbc.com/news/t

Re: [HOT] Tracking vehicle movements

2019-01-09 Thread John Whelan
In Windows you can use a script to copy the files, compress them and send them. Android should have something equivalent.  If not Microsoft Visual Studio 2017 can build something that will run on android. We seem to be forever seeing requests from students to write software for OSM and HOT a

Re: [HOT] Questionnaire

2019-03-21 Thread John Whelan
6. What do you think about your professionalism in terms of skills needed for OSM?* I'm a native English speaker and I haven't the foggiest what you're on about. Have a look at streetcomplete or attend a HOT mapathon in Africa then rethink this question.  I suggest you do some mapping in OSM f

Re: [HOT] Questionnaire

2019-03-21 Thread john whelan
If you look at the survey it asks the question after two others about you education level and "In what department did you complete your education?" Which sort of implies an expectation that you have some sort of University degree in something relevant. Then look at the answers you need to select

Re: [HOT] NB: Organised Editing Guidelines | Re: Final Request: Volunteers Needed for Global Mapathons!

2019-03-28 Thread john whelan
To draw a rectangular building in line with another takes two clicks in JOSM using the buildings_tool plugin. Correctly labelled and square. To correct a building drawn in iD that is untagged and the wrong shape takes considerably more effort and time when validating. If you catch the mapper ear

Re: [HOT] Thank you from MSF!

2019-04-06 Thread John Whelan
There is another wiki guide https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Tag_Africa both get updated from time to time.  As a general rule of thumb I tag highways between settlements as unclassified not track, I leave it to the local mappers to say if it is a higher classification.  Occasionall

Re: [HOT] Thank you from MSF!

2019-04-07 Thread john whelan
er learn from this process. All errors will > remain in the OSM Database. That might be understandable in an emergency > situation like now. But without direct feedback from map users we will > never improve. We should also demand that more local knowledge will be > shared with OSM. A si

[HOT] Name= Piste rurale in Mali

2019-05-22 Thread john whelan
and I've seen it in other African countries. Obviously it is not a valid name for a highway but how should it be tagged if tagged at all? Some are tagged ref=Piste rurale Thoughts Thanks John ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.op

Re: [HOT] Name= Piste rurale in Mali

2019-05-22 Thread john whelan
ico Giovanni wrote: > > "Piste rurale" (better singular "pista rurale") cannot be a reference, > since is a common name, which in italian simply means rural track/path. > > IMHO such tag should be removed > > Il mer 22 mag 2019, 15:00 john whelan ha scritto: > >

Re: [HOT] #ValidationFriday - June 7

2019-06-07 Thread john whelan
If you catch the problems early enough then the mapper gets both feedback and corrected. Experimentally the impact drops off very quickly. So catch them within the hour and they change how they map and usually map a bit more. After a week it's not worth the effort of giving feedback. >From a pr

Re: [HOT] [Osmf-talk] Règles d'éditions organisées / Directed editing guidelines

2019-06-22 Thread John Whelan
I'm beginning to think that a simple way to improve data quality would be to put a less powerful tool in the hands of inexperienced mappers.  A simpler editor with fewer choices or perhaps an existing editor with restricted choices for a particular task or region. Do we really need sidewalk=no

[HOT] Mali

2019-06-29 Thread John Whelan
I've been going over Mali adding in missing villages and hamlets working in the southern and eastern part of Mali and cleaning up as I go. Adding nodes to highways that cross but have no nodes, adding tags to untagged ways etc.  I even try to make sure each village has one highway at least lead

Re: [HOT] [OSM-talk] Mali

2019-06-30 Thread john whelan
un, 30 Jun 2019 at 11:24, Andrew Hain wrote: > Is there any sign of mappers being part of an organised activity or of > someone having encouraged them to contribute? > > -- > Andrew > ------ > *From:* John Whelan > *Sent:* 29 June 2019 23:49 &g

[HOT] building=yes tags removed by new mapper about a month ago.

2019-07-04 Thread john whelan
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/70916705 So far I've retagged some 750 buildings in different areas in Mali but the changeset covers a lot of ground and a number of countries so it might be nice for someone to have a look at what has happened. The mapper has made no reply to a query. Che

Re: [HOT] building=yes tags removed by new mapper about a month ago.

2019-07-05 Thread john whelan
ername:TimSchepan has no other info > about his/her profile. > Thanks @ John for the great job you re doing. > Victor N.Sunday > > > > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2019 at 7:41 PM Greg Rose via HOT > wrote: > >> Looks like he deleted the master relation for the Niger River as

Re: [HOT] building=yes tags removed by new mapper about a month ago.

2019-07-05 Thread John Whelan
synchronize the data for conflict resolution.  But the synchronized data is not added to the the conflict panel for conflict resolution. Pierre Le jeudi 4 juillet 2019 13 h 40 min 14 s UTC−4, john whelan a écrit : ___ HOT mailing list HOT

[HOT] JOSM paint styles

2019-11-07 Thread john whelan
I'm happy with HDM but if possible I'd like it not to display tree icons. They're visually getting in the way when I'm mapping highways. Any suggestions? Thanks John ___ HOT mailing list HOT@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot

Re: [HOT] JOSM paint styles

2019-11-08 Thread john whelan
Thank you. That was suggested by Andrew and works well. Cheerio John On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, 12:17 AM Claire Halleux, wrote: > You could activate a filter in JOSM to hide the trees while mapping. > > Claire > > On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 12:17 AM john whelan wrote: > >> I

[HOT] Mapping highways runs on from JOSM paint styles

2019-11-09 Thread John Whelan
Something to think about.  The tasking manager works quite well for small areas but when the tiles get too large then OSM balks at the download size. What I have been doing recently is downloading an entire country, cutting it up into chunks with OSMconvert then loading it into JOSM with lots

Re: [HOT] Name tag in non-latin script - hindrance for NGOs/aid agencies?

2019-11-27 Thread John Whelan
Is there any reason why name:en could not be used? I'm not seeking to influence here but looking for enlightenment.  In Canada locally we are able to display the map in either English or French certainly in OSMand.  OSMand defaults to the name value if name:fr is not available. Thanks John

Re: [HOT] Name tag in non-latin script - hindrance for NGOs/aid agencies?

2019-11-28 Thread John Whelan
would appear to meet the requirements.  The argument that we should change all the existing software to meet a requirement that was not clearly defined when the software was written doesn't make sense to me. Cheerio John Frederik Ramm wrote on 2019-11-28 3:25 AM: John, On 28.11.19 0

Re: [HOT] Name tag in non-latin script - hindrance for NGOs/aid agencies?

2019-11-28 Thread john whelan
he world that adapt >> constantly to their new context and on which the official reforms have no >> impact). >> >> So in conclusion, there's no other choice than Unicode today. Unicode is >> mandatory in XML, and in OSM. Don't spak about legacy charsets. But we ar

Re: [HOT] Name tag in non-latin script - hindrance for NGOs/aid agencies?

2019-11-29 Thread john whelan
I think you raise some good points but I still feel the most important thing is to safeguard the editing data by copying it to name:en whilst it is still available. Names are a problem in that an armchair mapper is unlikely to be of use. Data quality is also an issue. On the ground mappers are ex

Re: [HOT] Fwd: Happy 2020 + would you like to contribute to a retrospective on Haiti 2010 earthquake?

2020-01-11 Thread John Whelan
It depends on how you look at it and your standards. First off we have the task manager system that came out of Haiti.  It isn't just used in HOT projects but elsewhere in OSM. Next we have a degree of standardisation of things such as highway=unclassified.  The interesting thing here is how

Re: [HOT] Master's thesis topic at HOT OSM

2020-01-23 Thread john whelan
There is considerable interest in importing buildings currently however OpenStreetMap has rules around importing. Join talk-ca to see the discussion in Canada. It isn't quite as simple as first appears nor as fast to get consensus as one might like. In the case of Canada it has taken a number of

Re: [HOT] COVID-19 - How you can help

2020-03-17 Thread John Whelan
There is a difference between HOT and OpenStreetMap.  HOT adds data to OpenStreetMap and has to follow OpenStreetMaps rules when adding data as we all do. If you are mapping from local knowledge ie I can see this that is fine by OpenStreetMap rules.  The Import rules are for imports and are th

Re: [HOT] COVID-19 - How you can help

2020-03-17 Thread John Whelan
. It's time to act. On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 8:57 PM John Whelan <mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> wrote: There is a difference between HOT and OpenStreetMap.  HOT adds data to OpenStreetMap and has to follow OpenStreetMaps rules when adding data as we all do. If yo

Re: [HOT] COVID-19 - How you can help

2020-03-19 Thread John Whelan
Place names are probably one of the biggest challenges that we face and unfortunately local knowledge on the ground is the best source.  Some data is available for imports such as school names but  the quality is variable only some line up with a building or even being within a kilometer or two

Re: [HOT] Keen to host a virtual mapathon?

2020-03-20 Thread john whelan
The other part of this is you are most vulnerable if you have an underlying condition. So having a flu shot etc helps. I think we can expect a vaccine within a year so knowing where the villages are and how to get there even by motorcycle or bike will be helpful. Cheerio John On Fri, Mar 20, 20

Re: [HOT] leisure=common deprecated. Alternatives?

2020-03-29 Thread John Whelan
The issue is more the web map will no longer render it.  OSMAND may. Perhaps talk to the people who render the map? Cheerio John Rafael Avila Coya wrote on 2020-03-29 2:57 PM: Hi all: For years we've been using the tag leisure=common for open areas inside villages and towns in countries of A

[HOT] Idle thought time mapping without the Internet

2020-04-03 Thread john whelan
Can it be done? We have a problem with adding names and detail in developing countries. So it needs to be cheap and rugged. I'm thinking in terms of smartphone for mapping. You need to get data to it and from it. So step one OsmAndMapCreator and create an OSMAND map. USB stick in the post. T

Re: [HOT] Idle thought time mapping without the Internet

2020-04-04 Thread john whelan
t wrote: > >> Hi John, >> >> >> >> There is the Portable OpenStreetMap project but I suspect that needs to >> be well supported by a team of people who know how it all works >> >> >> >> https://github.com/posm/posm >> >> >

Re: [HOT] Idle thought time mapping without the Internet

2020-04-04 Thread john whelan
As I said there are a number of technical solutions but in order to add names and detail we need to document / simplify them (Mapping osm for dummies?) and get them into the hands of people on the ground. Cheerio John On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 09:37, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On 4/4/20 08:26, j

Re: [HOT] Experienced JOSM users - place names task in Peru

2020-04-17 Thread john whelan
Have you run this past the import mailing list? Thanks John On Fri, Apr 17, 2020, 4:42 AM Rebecca Firth, wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Thank you so much for the continued support for HOT's Covid response. I'm > getting in touch with a message for experienced JOSM users, in case you > have some time

Re: [HOT] Experienced JOSM users - place names task in Peru

2020-04-17 Thread John Whelan
this field, so the data is already from OSM. Thanks, Rebecca On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 1:10 PM john whelan <mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> wrote: Have you run this past the import mailing list? Thanks John On Fri, Apr 17, 2020, 4:42 AM Rebecca Firth, mailto:rebecca.fi

Re: [HOT] Experienced JOSM users - place names task in Peru

2020-04-17 Thread John Whelan
s (which have sub district tagged already) - it's taken from this field, so the data is already from OSM. Thanks, Rebecca On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 1:10 PM john whelan mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>> wrote: Have you r

Re: [HOT] Validators [was: COVID-19 For The Long Haul]

2020-04-24 Thread john whelan
What I found when validating HOT tasks was that if I provided feedback that wasn't too negative on the task "ie the african highway wiki suggests that this type of highway should be mapped thus: with a link and reference to the wiki rather than you done it wrong" then the mapper would go on to do f

Re: [HOT] Validators [was: COVID-19 For The Long Haul]

2020-04-24 Thread John Whelan
, it seems like it would be better just to make the correction and maybe have it send a message to the mapper about what got changed. Bryan Sayer Original message ---- From: john whelan Date: 04/24/2020 9:43 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Jean-Marc Liotier Cc: "HOT@OSM (Humanitaria

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