Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed

2010-12-25 Thread Emad ud din Btt
Thanks Yuv, I have downloaded official release. Its better. It has all CPGs. I installed it in clean state. Now I have started my testing. I will test all CPGs with my images. At the moment CPfind is doing its job. Any tip for parameters. Like I think adding %s parameter is important for huge numb

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: A little python helper script

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
On December 25, 2010 12:36:58 pm kfj wrote: > I'll gladly put it into my repo, if you think that's a good place > for it. Bit of an obscure location ;-) it surely is a better place than the oblivion of a mailing list memory. And it is not so obscure, I found it when I needed it. If you want a l

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
On December 25, 2010 01:45:28 pm Emad ud din Btt wrote: > I have latest hugin windows build downloaded from thepanz. you'll find the official ones at http://sourceforge.net/projects/hugin/files/hugin/ Matthew has been very fast and efficient to produce binaries for Windows, like Harry for OSX.

Re: Show Stopper? (was Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: 2010.4.0-beta1 Win32 test)

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
On December 25, 2010 02:00:11 pm kfj wrote: > since you refer to panomatic as your reference this is what milkman used as reference. > , did you take into > account that panomatic also scales down the images? yes - the first two reports are with scaled down images, and I assume they scale both

Re: Show Stopper? (was Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: 2010.4.0-beta1 Win32 test)

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
Hoi Harry, Thank you for the whole information about sieve size width height. We need more such practical info and we should expect this to be a "frequently asked question" (i.e. add it to the Hugin FAQ [0] ). We need to determine whether the optimal sieve parameters depend on only on the len

Re: Show Stopper? (was Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: 2010.4.0-beta1 Win32 test)

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
On December 25, 2010 03:10:28 pm namklim wrote: > So where should any test images be posted? I have not seen / hit yet a file size limit on our Launchpad bug tracker [0]. If we do hit a limit, there is place on the panotools server. I can set up something on my own server too if needed. The b

Re: [hugin-ptx] Happy Xmas

2010-12-25 Thread john doe
merry xmas from venezuela here!! feliz navidad! On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Yuval Levy wrote: > On December 25, 2010 10:32:04 am Bruno Postle wrote: > > Happy Xmas to everyone: > http://flickr.com/photos/36383...@n00/5290551034/ > > cool! > > +1 (of a completely different kind): > > > htt

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: An idea to expand HDR capabilities in Hugin

2010-12-25 Thread john doe
I like yuvals scripting ideas...i have some ideas about integratint panotools scripting into hugin could it be possible?? On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 7:12 PM, Tom Sharpless wrote: > Hi Bruno > > On Dec 25, 10:55 am, "Bruno Postle" > wrote: > > I think that now Hugin is 'feature complete', > > I thin

[hugin-ptx] Re: An idea to expand HDR capabilities in Hugin

2010-12-25 Thread Tom Sharpless
Hi Bruno On Dec 25, 10:55 am, "Bruno Postle" wrote: > I think that now Hugin is 'feature complete', I think not. It still needs 'intelligent' alignment, starting from a 'shooting template', and including an easy way to specify straight line constraints (see current discussions). I'd also ment

Re: Show Stopper? (was Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: 2010.4.0-beta1 Win32 test)

2010-12-25 Thread Harry van der Wolf
Hi Yuv and others, 2010/12/25 Yuval Levy > > I have uploaded your file to my server at > and strongly encourage > developers > to have a look / use it as a test case. > > This is the result of my testing on these files. cpfind was run on an > empty >

Re: Show Stopper? (was Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: 2010.4.0-beta1 Win32 test)

2010-12-25 Thread namklim
On Dec 25, 7:26 pm, Yuval Levy wrote: > Hi, > snip > > downloading your files was a pain.  next time before using one of these so > called "free" download services that throw consumer-hostile code at everybody > and waste my time (and yours), ask here if you need to share a large file. > > > Ple

Re: Show Stopper? (was Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: 2010.4.0-beta1 Win32 test)

2010-12-25 Thread kfj
On 25 Dez., 19:26, Yuval Levy wrote: > 1. REFERENCE: `time panomatic -o panomatic.default.pto *.jpg` > > real    1m17.629s > user    2m20.150s > sys     0m2.980s > > these results are puzzling.  they require more confirmation to see if this is > an exceptional case, or if the issue affects mor

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed

2010-12-25 Thread Emad ud din Btt
I have latest hugin windows build downloaded from thepanz. On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 11:41 PM, Yuval Levy wrote: > On December 25, 2010 12:38:39 pm Tom Sharpless wrote: > > I keep suggesting that someone should make Hugin do CP finding > > intelligently, when the arrangement of the source images

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed

2010-12-25 Thread Emad ud din Btt
Sir, Many thanks. Control point generation is a very important step in panorama creation. Hugin is an excellent software but its not a CP finder. PTGUI and Autopano giga both create CPs for this project. But again we cant blame Hugin. CP generation is not its feature. I am not into gigapixel ra

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
On December 25, 2010 12:38:39 pm Tom Sharpless wrote: > I keep suggesting that someone should make Hugin do CP finding > intelligently, when the arrangement of the source images is already > known. But so far nobody has volunteered. when did you last check Hugin? Thomas Modes has added the multi

Show Stopper? (was Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: 2010.4.0-beta1 Win32 test)

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
Hi, sorry for getting very late on this very important issue. On December 6, 2010 03:34:59 am namklim wrote: > According to the release notes "For the first time Hugin can be > considered feature-complete. A third-party control points generator > is no longer necessary. This release delivers som

Re: [hugin-ptx] control point generator help needed

2010-12-25 Thread Emad ud din Btt
Thanks Yuv, I did try to use panomatic but it failed for such high number of images. I will try Panomatic with parameters you sent. I have no patent restrictions here. Thanks. On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 10:24 PM, Yuval Levy wrote: > On December 25, 2010 02:18:26 am Emad ud din Btt wrote: > > I

[hugin-ptx] Re: thoughts about editing control points

2010-12-25 Thread Tom Sharpless
Thanks, Kay, I too think it is time for us to take a hard look at the whole problem of aligning source images. Editing control points is one important aspect of that problem. Finding CPs in the first place is a more fundamental one. Your suggestions about focusing on local areas where images act

[hugin-ptx] Re: An idea to expand HDR capabilities in Hugin

2010-12-25 Thread kfj
On 25 Dez., 17:13, Yuval Levy wrote: > I can very well imagine Hugin going the way of many mature products that spin > off sub-products into different directions; and if managed well the process > could keep the conflicting visions under the same roof and harness resources > better. >... > If the

[hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed

2010-12-25 Thread Tom Sharpless
Hi Emad, I'm not expert on the problem of aligning large sets of images. But I can tell you the Hugin CP finders will not handle this either. It is because they try to find CPs between every possible pair of images, and the number of possibilities grows too large too fast. The way to do it with

[hugin-ptx] Re: A little python helper script

2010-12-25 Thread kfj
On 25 Dez., 18:23, Yuval Levy wrote: > fixed.  do you want to add the script to your repo (I can't and I don't think > you can simply give write access to personal repos like that one)? I think maybe one can. When I get round to it, I'll investigate. For now, I'll gladly put it into my repo, i

[hugin-ptx] Re: thoughts about editing control points

2010-12-25 Thread kfj
On 25 Dez., 17:35, Yuval Levy wrote: > Hey Kay, > > I finally have time to catch up with these and I agree with most of what you > write about editing control points.  But.. Ha! I thought noone would ever take notice of my outpourings... > But the option need to be available.  Let's relegate t

Re: [hugin-ptx] control point generator help needed

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
On December 25, 2010 02:18:26 am Emad ud din Btt wrote: > I need urgent help for a control point generator that can handle 300 images > 360x180 architectural panoramas. Please! Mention best possible CP generator > and also share it's parameters or steps to follow. if you live in a jurisdiction tha

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: A little python helper script

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
On December 25, 2010 12:17:01 pm kfj wrote: > Yuval, you don't need the test fixed. do you want to add the script to your repo (I can't and I don't think you can simply give write access to personal repos like that one)? > I should have written the docu earlier... well, I suppose it's better >

[hugin-ptx] Fixing Bugs (bringing the new bug tracker to a higher level)

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
Hi all, the tracker is still recovering from the migration and there are still a lot of moving parts. nevertheless, we are down to 269 open reports (from initially around 400); only one of them has not yet been triaged, and new reports are coming in like before. The triage may not be perfect,

[hugin-ptx] Re: A little python helper script

2010-12-25 Thread kfj
On 25 Dez., 17:00, Yuval Levy wrote: > Danke Santa K. ;-) War mir ein Vergnügen! If anyone in the future should want to use the pto_parse python module, to make your life easier, I have written a README file for it, which is in my bazaar main branch: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ekfj/%2Bjun

[hugin-ptx] Can somebody quickly fix a wxWidget layout?

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
Hi Developers, It would be nice if this could be fixed for the next release candidate. https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin/+bug/679338 thanks Yuv signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: have you heard about TOAST projection?

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
On December 21, 2010 10:40:21 pm Tom Sharpless wrote: > It never ceases to amaze me that up in Redmond they pay people good > money to do such work. it happens everywhere where money is too easy. > I keep suggesting that our primary stitching targets should include > the cube, since so many of

Re: [hugin-ptx] thoughts about editing control points

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
Hey Kay, I finally have time to catch up with these and I agree with most of what you write about editing control points. But.. On December 16, 2010 09:22:29 am kfj wrote: > Control point editing/visualisation is a core issue of the panorama > creation mechanism used in hugin. It would deserve

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Idea for horizontal/vertical lines

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
On December 13, 2010 01:07:33 pm Andreas Metzler wrote: > It can take a lot of effort there is dozens of almost identical lines, > think e.g a brickstone wall. Using two separeate windows you can end > up literally needing to count from the bottom of the screen to make > sure you get the correct li

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: why is vertical line detection so hard?

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
On December 22, 2010 04:55:05 am Tim Nugent wrote: > It assumes that all lines that are taller than they are wide are vertical. sorry for getting late on this very interesting discussion. As Tom said, without being told what is vertical (by mean of good level sensors), it is impossible to know

Re: [hugin-ptx] An idea to expand HDR capabilities in Hugin

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
On December 25, 2010 10:55:28 am Bruno Postle wrote: > I think that now Hugin is 'feature complete', it is finally time to decide > what the 'product vision' and 'target audience' really are. yes, there are some conflicting/incompatible visions in the room; and also an increasing number of availa

Re: [hugin-ptx] Happy Xmas

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
On December 25, 2010 10:32:04 am Bruno Postle wrote: > Happy Xmas to everyone: http://flickr.com/photos/36383...@n00/5290551034/ cool! +1 (of a completely different kind): https://panospace.wordpress.com/2010/12/24/hugin-2010-4-0-release-candidate-1- available/ signature.asc Description: This

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: A little python helper script

2010-12-25 Thread Yuval Levy
On December 25, 2010 06:17:01 am kfj wrote: > I made the script to produce > dummy images in the current working directory, prefixing the original > image names with 'dummy_', and I also made it output a modified pto > file using these names. Here's the modified routine: Danke Santa K. ;-) Indee

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: no pano: make fails

2010-12-25 Thread Bruno Postle
Other than fixing your setup, the most practical suggestion is to never stitch directly into stereographic projection as this is very inefficient. First stitch a 'normal' equirectangular panorama, which you can then load into a new single-image project and generate whatever views you like. --

Re: [hugin-ptx] An idea to expand HDR capabilities in Hugin

2010-12-25 Thread Bruno Postle
I think that now Hugin is 'feature complete', it is finally time to decide what the 'product vision' and 'target audience' really are. Going through this process has been very helpful for some other free software graphics projects lately -- Bruno -- You received this message because you are

Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed

2010-12-25 Thread Emad ud din Btt
Andres I have tried ICE before but i dont think it can handle 300 image. On Sat, Dec 25, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Andres wrote: > If you're in a hurry, you could check out Microsoft ICE (google for > links)... > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Hugin and

[hugin-ptx] Happy Xmas

2010-12-25 Thread Bruno Postle
Happy Xmas to everyone: http://flickr.com/photos/36383...@n00/5290551034/ -- Bruno -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugi

[hugin-ptx] Re: A little python helper script

2010-12-25 Thread kfj
On 25 Dez., 15:07, Rogier Wolff wrote: > I had the same idea > > https://answers.launchpad.net/hugin/+question/136883 > >         Roger. so now you have two solutions ;-) Kay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hugin and other free panoramic sof

[hugin-ptx] Re: control point generator help needed

2010-12-25 Thread Andres
If you're in a hurry, you could check out Microsoft ICE (google for links)... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hugin and other free panoramic software" group. A list of frequently asked questions is available at: http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ

Re: [hugin-ptx] A little python helper script

2010-12-25 Thread Rogier Wolff
I had the same idea https://answers.launchpad.net/hugin/+question/136883 Roger. -- ** r.e.wo...@bitwizard.nl ** http://www.BitWizard.nl/ ** +31-15-2600998 ** **Delftechpark 26 2628 XH Delft, The Netherlands. KVK: 27239233** *-- BitWizard writes Linux device drivers for

[hugin-ptx] Re: no pano: make fails

2010-12-25 Thread Thomas
I discovered this discussion http://www.mail-archive.com/hugin-bug-hunters@lists.launchpad.net/msg00594.html How can I check if this is my problem or if my disk space is too smal? Tonight I will try to set TEMP and TMP and then run it by command line thomas On 24 Dez., 21:44, Thomas Steiner wr

[hugin-ptx] Re: ANN: Hugin-2010.4.0_rc1 released

2010-12-25 Thread Andreas Metzler
Yuval Levy wrote: > On December 24, 2010 04:16:55 am Andreas Metzler wrote: >> ich habe gerade die Pakete nach Debian/experimental hochgeladen. >> http://www.bebt.de/hugin/ > Danke, Andreas! > When verifying the sha256sum it occured to me that the file > hugin_2010.4.0+dfsg~rc1-1.dsc does not

[hugin-ptx] Re: Newbie questions

2010-12-25 Thread kfj
On 24 Dez., 22:04, spraynpray wrote: Hi Andrew! When I was still using Windows, the droplets worked fine for me, but it's been a while... If you could be a bit more specific about what the problem seems to be, maybe I can help you. Like, what types of images you drop on which droplet, what you

[hugin-ptx] Re: A little python helper script

2010-12-25 Thread kfj
On 25 Dez., 11:02, Lukáš Jirkovský wrote: > Bruno has similar script in his Panotools-Script. It's called ptodummy [1]. > > http://search.cpan.org/dist/Panotools-Script/bin/ptodummy This probably went unnoticed when he announced it in September. Indeed it does a very similar thing to Yuval's s

[hugin-ptx] Re: A little python helper script

2010-12-25 Thread kfj
On 25 Dez., 03:15, Yuval Levy wrote: > Probably Kay will find plenty of ways to improve on this. I adressed the second issue as well. I made the script to produce dummy images in the current working directory, prefixing the original image names with 'dummy_', and I also made it output a modified

[hugin-ptx] Re: A little python helper script

2010-12-25 Thread kfj
On 25 Dez., 03:15, Yuval Levy wrote: > Probably Kay will find plenty of ways to improve on this. Okay, first improvement. Your script assumes that all pto line members are in static positions, like the filename being in the 34th field. This may be the case, but it's much safer to use named mem

Re: [hugin-ptx] An idea to expand HDR capabilities in Hugin

2010-12-25 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 24 December 2010 02:57, john doe wrote: > Hey coders, i had this idea today, I like to use QTPSFGUI/Luminance for HDR > working, personally i think its a better program to work with those files, > but since hugin now has the option to work with HDR why not incorporate an > HDR tonemapping featu

Re: [hugin-ptx] A little python helper script

2010-12-25 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 25 December 2010 03:15, Yuval Levy wrote: > Hello all, > > first, many thanks to Kay for his Python pto parser that served as basis for > what follows. > > second, a big disclaimer:  my Python experience is very limited. > > Nevertheless, in about half hour of googling and fiddling, I achieved

[hugin-ptx] Re: A little python helper script

2010-12-25 Thread kfj
On 25 Dez., 03:15, Yuval Levy wrote: > Hello all, > > first, many thanks to Kay for his Python pto parser that served as basis for > what follows. You're welcome. Glad someone found it useful! > save the script inside script/main (unless Kay adds it to the repo, then it > will come automaticall