vote it up on hacker news, where the best discussions usually are happening
;)
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7347129
Jeffrey Martin
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http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/9000/largest-panoramic-image
mobile +420 608 0
OK, but that's because you know it's Hugin... how did you know? Almost no
one would, and that's not really fair.
I see nothing stating anywhere that the app is derived from Hugin, etc.
Jeffrey Martin
Founder, 360cities.net <http://www.360cities.net>
mobile +
Hi, sorry for the cross posting.
if you're curious about the theta 360, here is a review and demo / unboxing
video I made.
http://blog.360cities.net/theta-360-review/
if you want to know more, please feel free to email me directly :)
Jeffrey
Jeffrey Martin
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Hi, I'm selling my Clauss Rodeon VR Head ST
https://dr-clauss.de/en/foto-studiotechnik-3/rodeon-vr-head-series/item/210-rodeon-vr-head-st
email me with an offer.
thanks,
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thanks Harry.
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> 2011/12/13 Jeffrey Martin <360c...@gmail.com>
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>> Hi,
Hi,
I'm looking for a contact to James Legg. Please, can anyone help me contact
him?
thanks,
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Ok,
I think I'm going to go ahead and build this thing:
hotshoe-mounted attitude logger for Nikon SLR
using gyroscope, accelerometer, magnetometer, it will write the Heading,
Pitch, and Roll of each photo into the exif data as the photo is shot.
Now, can anyone recommend which sensor device
I think the main issue is WRITING the data into the nikon camera. it
supports only GPS logging, AFAIK and it might not allow writing to some
other exif field.
that's why i suggested an ugly hack, writing the position info into the gps
/ altitude fields.
does anyone know if a better solution -
Good find, Geoff!
Ok, so it looks like the heading can be written into the GPS exif data
without any hack?
That leaves only the pitch/roll data - We could probably stick this in the
"altitude" field, since the altitude data is always totally wrong and
useless anyway :)
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XMP cannot be written inside the camera during shooting, I guess.
On Tuesday, December 6, 2011 2:33:19 PM UTC+1, davitof wrote:
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> What about using XMP instead of EXIF? I guess XMP is more open to
> user-defined data.
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> tripod/attitude could work the same.
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> Cheers
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> 2011/12/6 Jeffrey Martin <360c...@gmail.com>
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>> HI Kay,
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 6, 2011 8:52:59 AM UTC+1, kfj wrote:
>> A few years
HI Kay,
On Tuesday, December 6, 2011 8:52:59 AM UTC+1, kfj wrote:
A few years ago we had phones. Now we have smartphones. Let's hope we
> also get 'smartcameras'.
>
I have very little hope at this point. Or, you could consider that "they"
(canon, nikon, etc.) might do it, 5 or 10 years after yo
http://www.x-io.co.uk/node/9
it would be so cool!
Jeff
On Monday, December 5, 2011 4:43:48 PM UTC+1, Jeffrey Martin wrote:
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> I think that it would be possible to build a device with this component
> that would write directly to the exif data of images shot with Nikon SLR
> c
I think that it would be possible to build a device with this component
that would write directly to the exif data of images shot with Nikon SLR
cameras.
that would be really really awesome :)
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I have asked before... I wish I could do something besides only ask :(
I REALLY wish cpfind had a way to analyze smaller version of images (it
uses 1/2 size but default but it's either this or fullsize - nothing else!)
when you have 50 (or 500) source images, it would be extremely helpful to
e.
Thanks Harry! :-)
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Hey dude,
On Monday, November 21, 2011 6:39:08 PM UTC+1, mark skama wrote:
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>
> i repeat that other softwares don't work good for me
> and i dont pay a "ridicolus" amount of 177€ for ptgui
>
Ptgui is 79 / 149 euro. Autopano pro is 99 euro.
How much did you pay for your camera, lenses, computer?
Hey, that worked for me just fine :)
Stefan, you have saved me from a world of pain :) Thank you!
On Friday, November 4, 2011 5:43:25 PM UTC+1, Stefan wrote:
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> Hi Jeffrey
>
> On 11/04/2011 04:47 PM, Jeffrey Martin wrote:
> > what packet? I want 2011.5 version of hugin, t
Thanks Matthew.
Just tested on 8-core 192GB RAM machine. CPfind is incredibly fast, it
works multicore :) the optimizer and enblend do not unfortunately.
interestingly, a pano taken in a forest did find some "vertical" lines but
didn't turn out to be totally correct (not a surprise)
i'm very
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next error:
jeff@jeff-ubuntu:~/src/enblend/enblend.build$ cmake ../enblend.hg
-DENABLE_GPU:BOOL=ON -DENABLE_IMAGECACHE:BOOL=OFF -DENABLE_OPENMP:BOOL=ON \
> -DCPACK_BINARY_DEB:BOOL=ON -DCPACK_BINARY_NSIS:BOOL=OFF
-DCPACK_BINARY_RPM:BOOL=OFF \
> -DCPACK_BINARY_STGZ:BOOL=OFF -DCPACK_BINARY_TBZ2
next error:
jeff@jeff-ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install pkg-config libtiff4-dev
libboost-graph-dev libboost-thread-dev \ libboost-filesystem-dev
liblcms1-dev libglew1.5-dev libplot-dev libglut3-dev libopenexr-dev \
libxi-dev libxmu-dev help2man libplot-dev liblcms1-dev libboost-system-dev
Reading
I've had a thought - since I'm going to go through the hell of compiling
hugin (i'm not complaining - only being honest - ;) I thought, why don't I
create a package for distribution? Won't that make everyone's life easier?
on the wiki page it says this:
"
Moreover, it is likely that your enviro
On Friday, November 4, 2011 4:45:27 PM UTC+1, kfj wrote:
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> but it turned out the easiest would have
> been to just bin the whole old source tree and uninstall, then clone
> afresh, compile and reinstall. (Sorry I can't find the thread just
> now)
>
>
I've gone one step further, i've complet
I have recently upgraded to ubuntu 11.10, and my hugin installation is now
broken. :(
So I might be desperately asking for help here on the group for similar
reasons to the above... I'm hoping to install the latest version of hugin
so that i can try the new vertical line detector :)
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Hi Sebastian,
from the thousands spherical panoramas that i've shot, using both fisheye
and normal lenses, I'd advise you not to bother trying to stitch pictures
of the sky. It's just not worth the trouble.
Shoot a single image of the sky with a fisheye lens, and stick it into the
higher-resol
To do focus bracketing / blending you simply use enfuse with the "contrast"
parameter...
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I'm bringing this thread up again...
Does anyone find the possibility of a "horizon detector" interesting, for
cases where there are not vertical lines, but there is a horizon? This
would help to automatically level more panos
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Still, there is certainly use for a *horizon* detector.
in many panos there is water - the ocean - and no vertical lines.
here, the only way to level the pano is to set this horizon line.
this is not an edge case - this is a really big case :) if you check some
panos on 360cities you'll see wha
How big do you mean? Can it blend an arbitrarily large image? I mean, does
the time scale linearly?
Jeffrey
On Wednesday, September 14, 2011 8:47:12 PM UTC+2, Rosomack wrote:
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>
> As for the "slow" part, please make sure that you are building without
> debug symbols. From my experience it had
Hi, you mentioned "Improved auto cropping"
is this part of pano_modify?
thanks,
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> On August 22, 2011 11:55:17 AM Jeffrey Martin wrote:
> > Is there a way to limit the number of CP's as a-s-c does ?
>
> First, you can limit the max number of points per bucket with --sieve1size
>
> CPfind partitions the image
I recently stitched 31 images and using cpfind, there were around 8000
control points.
This made things rather slow. :-)
Is there a way to limit the number of CP's as a-s-c does ?
i don't know what i'm doing wrong but I am not seeing the benefit of cpfind
over autopano-sift-c (for non-fisheye
Question that is somewhat related to this discussion: Is the usage of QT by
Autopano Pro (and Autopano Giga) the reason that those programs work exactly
the same way (i.e. really well, no obvious errors in UI, etc.) on mac,
windows, and linux? I can't say the same for Hugin. I don't know if thi
>
> slightly OT: does anybody know what has happened to
> http://panoverflow.com/ ?
>
> It says simply "The website "panoverflow.com" has been disabled. If you
> are
> the administrator of this Stack Exchange 1.0 site, please email se1-
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I'm trying to tweak cpfind to give me better results.
I have not found any explanation of what --kdtreesteps and
--kdtreeseconddist actually do.
can anyone explain it, as if they are talking to a 4-year old? :-)
What I have found, is that --kdtreesteps 40 and --kdtreeseconddist 0.15
seems
i've noticed in a few cases that autopano-sift-c does a better job finding
CP's than cpfind.
do i need to upload some example images? has anyone else noticed this issue?
thanks,
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Hi Everybody.
oh dear, this has been quite a thread. :)
I don't have much to add, except a few observations.
- I see quite a lot of frustration from developers about the "spaghetti
code" that is Hugin. You can show me the link from joel on software about
duct-tape programming, yes,
On Thursday, July 28, 2011 1:53:11 PM UTC+2, kfj wrote:
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> On 28 Jul., 09:39, Jeffrey Martin <360c...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I suppose my 450D isn't too far from a 550D, but I'll nevertheless do
> a couple of test shots to see if I can also recover two stops f
stupid question, what is woa?
On Thursday, July 28, 2011 2:31:08 PM UTC+2, kfj wrote:
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>
> My woa
> plugin routinely compares equivalent sections of images done with very
> different lenses, and the (blown-up) wider-angle sections are quite
> blurred compared to their equivalent sections fro
This is the same bug I've been complaining about for months now :-D
Should I dump my prefs file also?
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I've seen Kay suggesting that Hugin should be carefully "rebooted" i.e. not
totally rewritten, but partially rewritten, and built with proper
documentation etc.
I can't help with that, but I'm wondering, as a thought experiment - how
much time are we talking about for this to be done? How many
On Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:05:41 AM UTC+2, kfj wrote:
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> On 27 Jul., 09:28, Jeffrey Martin <360c...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > Personally i've had the best results using +1.5 and -0.5 exposure derived
>
> > from a single raw file.
>
> Differently proc
I also still do not understand the concept of sieve1, sieve2, height, width,
and size. How to tweak these to get more / better distributed CP's.
what i do know is that if you increase sieve1size to 1000 or 1, you
often get tons more CP's without a big slowdown. increasing sieve2size does
ca
Kay,
do you have any examples of images we can see (before / after) showing that
this really works? i'd love to see that :)
jeffrey
On Friday, May 6, 2011 2:28:37 PM UTC+2, kfj wrote:
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>
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> On 19 Apr., 10:31, Erik Krause wrote:
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> > You can also try slightly smaller values for -wSigma whic
Personally i've had the best results using +1.5 and -0.5 exposure derived
from a single raw file.
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Yes, Panotools meetings are really fun! Very informal, and full of really
nice people... I have gone to them since 2006... I hope anyone from this
list might find the time to come to Vienna this year for a couple days :)
You won't regret it!
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in autopano-sift-c there is some detection of image chains (i.e. after CP's
are made, it says how many CP's, how many images, and how many groups of
images)
this is lacking in cpfind and would obviously be quite useful.
should i put it in launchpad?
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will this (calibrate lens gui / detecting lines) work on source (rect /
fish) images only? or also a final pano in equirect projection?
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> On 18 Mai, 04:18, Tduell wrote:
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> > I have just committed a patch to the d
replies below.
On Thursday, May 19, 2011 3:02:06 AM UTC+2, Yuv wrote:
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> On May 18, 2011 07:55:59 AM Jeffrey Martin wrote:
> > the problem with --linearmatch is that (unless i'm mistaken) it never
> tries
> > to join the first and last image of the sequence, s
hi,
flash works awesome on my nexus s. if you get a phone using a qualcomm cpu
flash won't work.
On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:01:47 PM UTC+2, Cartola wrote:
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>
> By the way, I use Firefox on Windows and sometimes I experience problems at
> 360cities. It doesn´t happen always, but sometimes the
thanks Kay for your insight into this issue.
the problem with --linearmatch is that (unless i'm mistaken) it never tries
to join the first and last image of the sequence, so this is really not so
useful in the real world (unless you really want the user to specify what
type of pano they're shoo
flash :)
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aha i was also getting fewer (or no) CP's when using fullscale.
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no. there are other tools for verifying if images have been manipulated,
though. i don't know the names of the software though. did you try googling
"image manipulation detection" or something?
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that reminds me, is there any way to limit the number of CP's per pair?
i fully agree, generating too many CP's makes problems but sometimes it is
necessary to jack up the sensitivity of cpfind to find any matches at all!
so there is a problem here waiting to be solved :-)))
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when i turn my head around, i'm looking at a sphere from the inside, and
pano photography replicates that.
so i'd say it depends what kind of sphere you're looking at your whole
life is spend looking at the inside of a sphere :)
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Will you show us your robot? :-)
here is the one i use to make gigapixels
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffrey-martin/5617720940/in/photostream
(according to my son)
:-)
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Enfuse works best on TWO images in my experience. Three if you have a lot of
dynamic range. Almost never do you need to run more than 3 images through
enfuse. Just use exposures that contain "good bits". Definitely not the
too-dark and too-light ones. This is the difference between enfuse and HD
hi Calvin,
especially if you're using bracketed shots, i've learned that using tiff
input really gives no improvement in quality over using jpegs (at 95%, not
100%!) quality if you're making them properly out of raw files.
Maybe - certainly :) there is some maniac out there who can see the
dif
krpano has html5, works on chrome and other new browsers.
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Ok. i put it here.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/hugin/+bug/773319
I hope that's the right place to put it? :-)
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hi emaad,
i shot the pano in one exposure.
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On Tuesday, March 29, 2011 10:45:43 AM UTC+2, kfj wrote:
> I'd be happy to see progress along these lines. You go ahaead and do
> the convincing. A simple scaling factor or size parameter should
> indeed by simple to implement, and using external logic to feed it
> depending on the FOV of one
Hi Emaad, you can check the blog post for some technical details. Anyway, it
was Canon 550D and 70-200mm lens @200mm.
Exposure was tricky. The viewfinder showed blown highlights but they weren't
really blown ;-)
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Yes you're right, they're in the wrong order. I will inform the library
people :)
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i can give you a 700 image set (for example) if you want. email me offlist,
please.
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Mikolaj, if you need images for testing, please let me know.
cheers.
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Yipee!! :-))
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I would also guess that it might be important for someone redesigning the UI
to have access to all Linux, Windows, and Mac machines in order to see the
UI in each one (which differs a bit)
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if one assumes a "standard response curve" then how would one go about it?
Jeff
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on a related note, i'm curious - what is the equivalent to making a +1
exposure on a raw file - what actual settings would you change in a tiff?
simply move the white/black point?
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> psychovisual error
> +
> kolmogorov min cut
> +
> ENBLEND
> +
> subpixel acuracy and pyramid with alpha channel
> =
> smartblend
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>
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EASY! ;-
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Has anyone studied smartblend verbose output to figure out how it works?
It is vastly superior to enblend (in terms of seam placement). And it's old,
crusty, closed-source, and definitely not going to be updated again.
This to me is one of the biggest drawbacks to the hugin collection of
softwa
well, there are tons of raw developing programs that use dcraw. so what do
you mean? no one uses dcraw command line?
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It is a GOOD IDEA :-)
i can't help thinking that all this debating, the feature could have been
built by now ;-))) (not by me though)
(not an excuse to simply build features instead of having a good debate, i
fully realize.)
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Hi Everybody,
Just thought you might enjoy this
http://www.360cities.net/gigapixel/strahov-library.html
It wasn't made with Hugin though. Maybe when I can get cpfind to reduce
images to a specified pixel size ;-)))
seriously though, I would like to make one of the next ones using hugin,
Awesome!
I for one am happy to hear that someone is interested in working on vertical
line detection. I review tons of panos (stitched by hundreds of people all
over the world) every day, and lots of them are not level. This task is
currently quite difficult and non-intuitive for people, and it
I've contacted a professor here at CVUT (the czech technical university) and
asked if any students might be interested in participating.
People at CVUT invented MSER
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximally_stable_extremal_regions and is very
highly regarded in the realm of computer vision.
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Hi Kay,
I like the idea, but it seems overly complex (and expensive) to me, to be
honest. And won't work in cases when the FOV is unknown.
My idea is much, much more simple.
Couldn't we start with my idea? ;-)
Or, if I convinced someone (say one of my colleagues who is a competent
programmer)
Agree, RAW input for stitching is a bad idea. At the very least you want to
set white balance on your raw images (although it's true hugin can fix white
balance, this is not ideal)
Even if Hugin did have raw input, it would simply use dcraw for this most
probably. I'm not in favor of adding thi
So can Autopano Giga not sure if anyone here has used it lately but you
can throw a 40-image handheld series of shots at it, and it will align it in
a few seconds. Rendering is a different issue, although it is also
incredibly fast in comparison to hugin and ptgui, and it has "smart"
blendi
HI Ebby,
I advised you to install Hugin (because Panomonkey was clearly not suitable
for you) and then to visit this forum when you need help with it. I can't
believe this was not clear. But when you send me so many skype messages
every day as you have been doing, I can understand that maybe my
Hi,
the --fullscale flag in cpfind is ok, but really makes no sense considering
the size of input images could vary by huge amounts.
wouldn't it make more sense to have a setting for the target pixel size that
cpfind should reduce the image to?
e.g. cpfind would reduce all source images to 200
do you have the full resolution pano online anywhere?
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ok. well, centering a pano i guess will definitely change the yaw, by
definition. but straightening a pano, and changing the yaw, this really
bothers me, because i try to shoot all my panos pointing north (so when i
publish them on the web, they have the correct heading for google earth
etc.)
Nobody? :-)
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I mean a different kind of vibration: when the motor stops turning, and then
the camera moves back and forth in a fast vibration, from the inertia.
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> Jeffrey Martin schrieb am 11.03.11 18:35:
> > I guess i need to find ou
I guess i need to find out how strong they are, if they can hold a heavy
camera/lens, and if there is much vibration.
in that case i would definitely try to get someone to program one.
10-20 years I will worry about, in 10-20 years :)
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i'm noticing that the "straighten" feature will sometimes not change the
pitch/roll of the pano, but it will change the yaw by 180º.
has anyone else noticed this?
Jeffrey
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I wholeheartedly agree with this.
On Friday, March 11, 2011 5:23:18 AM UTC+1, JohnG wrote:
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> Bruno, with a heavy heart, I must disagree.
>
> To switch off (uncheck) the previewed "Photometrics" only to find even
> more weirdness going on 'underneath' is not helpful.
>
> To "Reset Exposure to
I feel like I have stumbled onto the final great hidden gem of panorama
equipment. Is this too good to be true? I mean, I had suspected for years
that there must be someone out there who has a job similar to ours, needing
very similar equipment, with the benefit of already having developed that
Thomas - with all due respect, I think all you're doing for Hugin is
fantastic - I fully disagree with you - this behavior is totally wrong!!!
:-P
If I only generate CP's and render, why possibly would any photometric
optimization be expected? If I use the "align images" button, then yes of
co
Again, I did here
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/hugin-ptx/0hovcyE77Hk
uploaded files and pto.
so i'll file a bug then :)
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> Try shorter filenames for testing and let us know if it works.
> Could be a recursion.
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>> I got this while stitching:
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>> enblend: unknown
Ok, I found a "solution"
in camera/lens tab, reset all photometric info (exposure, etc.). reset the
exposure to ZERO.
then in the preview window they are all black. to fix that, I reset the EV
using the little arrow button.
But again, this didn't used to happen, and this is not so nice - and I
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HI Jan,
It's the exact same problem as this thread.
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/hugin-ptx/0hovcyE77Hk
I uploaded those sample images. different camera but same issue (images shot
on auto exposure)
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Hi,
i DIDN'T use the "align" button in this case, which is why this whole thing
is frustrating me so much.
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