Re: [IAEP] [Fwd: 0.84 goals]

2008-08-15 Thread forster
Hi I note that, following the link, Trac #6128 says: “There has been much discussion about how to achieve grouping in the journal, and whether to move towards a hierarchical structure, like directories and subdirectories on a normal file system. In the current design, tags are intended to be th

Re: [IAEP] wolfram's mathematica

2008-09-30 Thread forster
> > wolfram's mathematica page says: > > Mathematica has been ported to the OLPC "$100 laptop" Mathmatica has a licence fee, GeoGebra http://www.geogebra.org/ is free, (GNU General Public License), and would be even more interesting to see on Sugar/XO Tony ___

Re: [IAEP] [Olpc-open] G1G1 (was Re: [Community-news] OLPC News (2008-09-29))

2008-10-04 Thread forster
d get enough XO's to run a lab session. Maybe there could be a conference set that could be shipped round the world as required? Tony Forster ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

[IAEP] Waveplace awards

2008-10-24 Thread forster
The awards for the Waveplace Carribean pilot are live at http://www.waveplace.com/news/awards/ in 15 minutes (if I can read my timezones correctly) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugar

Re: [IAEP] http://www.nln.ac.uk/ - national learning network

2008-11-02 Thread forster
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 8:33 PM, David Van Assche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a uniquely interesting site with content for the entire > > British curriculum that has been put into a format importable in all > > VLEs, with a concentration on Moodle. Thanks David for this link. Lots of g

Re: [IAEP] Collaboration on ubuntu

2008-11-24 Thread forster
I was able to get a live CD PC and a XO to talk to each other on a home network, using the live CD back in June, the PC with live CD did not support wifi it was ethernet back to the wifi modem, the XO was Wifi http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2008/06/sharing-with-sugar.html ___

[IAEP] A teacher's reactions to Sugar

2008-11-30 Thread forster
A teacher's reactions to Sugar in the Tuvalu OLPC trial: http://learnonline.wordpress.com/2008/12/01/my-experience-with-olpc-in-tuvalu/ ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/list

Re: [IAEP] Working math graphs/plots

2008-12-10 Thread forster
Sounds interesting. Sugar/OLPC really needs a spreadsheet. Spreadsheets are powerful learning tools which enable the manipulation and visualisation of data. Why isn't the spreadsheet for Open Office included? Is it because its footprint is too big or because its not sugarised? In addition to p

Re: [IAEP] USB based access in Australia

2008-12-11 Thread forster
> hi Donna and other Aussies, > > Do you know the folks at Cybersource? > http://www.cyber.com.au/press/government_laptop_best_value_solution.html > hi Donna and other Aussies, > > Do you know the folks at Cybersource? > http://www.cyber.com.au/press/government_laptop_best_value_solution.html Co

Re: [IAEP] Ncomputing

2008-12-12 Thread forster
We had a similar thin client system in the computer lab of an education conference recently. At least 2 of the sessions could not run as planned because the workstations did not have the functionality of a normal PC. In my case I needed 32M of video memory. The same criticism though could be ma

Re: [IAEP] Working math graphs/plots

2008-12-12 Thread forster
I am writing this incase anyone else is having the same trouble following this thread as me. We are talking about the Calculate activity. If you hover over Sin-1 the delayed help popup is Arc Sine. Like Edward, I did not notice a second delayed pop up "help". Click on that and help(asin) is dis

Re: [IAEP] [Sur] Turtle Art Portfolio v-7

2009-02-10 Thread forster
Edward > With these arithmetic tiles and square root, I can do all of Euclidean > synthetic plane geometry and all of plane analytic geometry up to > You will still rapidly run into limitations with TA. The canvas effectively limits the number of tiles you can have in your program, scroll b

Re: [IAEP] View source in TA (was Re: Sugar Digest 2009-02-03)

2009-03-14 Thread forster
Edward > > Thanks. The code seems to contain many Magic Numbers, as in 'sqrt': > > (('num',True,0,20),('num',False,42,20)), > > Are they documented anywhere? A little documentation on these magic numbers which specify docking coordinates at http://sugarlabs.org/go/Modifying_Activities#taset

Re: [IAEP] 2 design proposals: home view, discoverable shortcuts

2009-03-22 Thread forster
> I view "resume by default" as a kind of ugly hack to paper over another > problem ... "Resume by default" discourages users from creating > new documents until such time as we can handle the volume of documents > they create. > Sugar should be "low entry, wide walls and high ceiling" That is,

Re: [IAEP] 2 design proposals: home view, discoverable shortcuts

2009-03-22 Thread forster
thanks for the comments > > Tagging is good, but best for information which is impractical to > > structure. > > > I doubt that there is consensus here on this question. Does anybody know of > any relevant empirical data? I don't have anything empirical, I hope someone does. I suspect you can r

[IAEP] Netbook trial

2009-03-24 Thread forster
A trial of 10,000 take home netbooks at netbooktrial.wikispaces.com They come with Vista and a selection of proprietary and open source software. Some interesting material for classroom activities and evaluation details ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Pro

Re: [IAEP] status on Sugar Guide for 0.84

2009-03-26 Thread forster
>1. Walter or someone with python knowledge, could you review the >"Modifying Sugar" chapter at >http://en.flossmanuals.net/bin/view/Sugar/8_4/ModifyingSugar? Sorry a bit late with this suggestion. Also I am just about to be travelling and can't help implement. "Modifying Activities

[IAEP] OT: Networking challenges in "developing countries"

2009-04-25 Thread forster
Another approach to third world networks is HF radio http://www.peoplefirst.net.sb/general/PFnet.htm People First Network is a rural networking project that promotes rural development and peace building by enabling affordable and sustainable rural connectivity and facilitating information excha

Re: [IAEP] Logic simulator

2009-05-03 Thread forster
> Noticed this Flash based logic simulator: > > http://joshblog.net/projects/logic-gate-simulator/Logicly.html > > Would be quite a simple sandbox activity to make (python, gtk+, > ciaro); but before I burn time (well add to my future todos list), do > teachers on this list think it is

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] versus, not

2009-05-08 Thread forster
> Do you have any good links for those of us just starting? http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Modifying_Activities http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activities/Turtle_Art/Patching ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarl

Re: [IAEP] [PATCH] add clock frame device

2009-05-08 Thread forster
> The below patch adds a clock device to the frame: Thanks Martin, I have wanted a clock for a long time. Can we please have an idiots guide for installation? eg remove the leading + symbols save it as *.py do what with it? ___ IAEP -- It's An Education

Re: [IAEP] Wanted: Videos of Sugar and XOs in action

2009-05-11 Thread forster
> Hi all, > > for a presentation here in Vienna that's coming up at the end of the > week Tano (in CC) and myself are looking for videos (in English or with > English subtitles) of Sugar and XO in action. you may find something at www.waveplace.com or search youtube for waveplace Tony

Re: [IAEP] Journal criticism

2009-05-28 Thread forster
Thanks to Tomeu and others for your contributions. My summary: Browse not naming a downloaded file so it includes the name of the file actually downloaded has been registered as a bug on Trac My comments on autosave and journal spam relate to release 0.82, releases 0.84 and 0.86 have changes w

[IAEP] journal criticism (was Re: Re: Re: [RELEASE] TurtleArt-51)

2009-05-28 Thread forster
[sorry, I am not on sugar-devel list] Hi Tomeu Two points expanded: > > altering the filenames and extensions of email attachments > > Could you please expand on this use case? Using webmail, you save a mail attachment to the journal, the filename is not preserved. Using webmail you retransmi

Re: [IAEP] journal criticism (was Re: Re: Re: [RELEASE] TurtleArt-51)

2009-05-28 Thread forster
this mail got lost in the ether for 2 days, its old stuff and has been discussed long ago: > [sorry, I am not on sugar-devel list] > > Hi Tomeu > Two points expanded: > > > > altering the filenames and extensions of email attachments > > > > Could you please expand on this use case? > > Usin

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-06-01

2009-06-01 Thread forster
Walter wrote > In Sugar, we bundle an IRC Activity that defaults to #sugar. > * Is there more we can do to encourage participation? IRC can be a bit daunting for the beginner, both the technical aspects and the etiquette. I have added a link to each team meeting page Help: [[Sugar_Labs/Contacts#

Re: [IAEP] Sugar Digest 2009-06-01

2009-06-02 Thread forster
> Your links is daunting to the beginner, too. How do I get there? oops, sorry, internal sugarlabs wiki link http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Contacts#IRC.2C_Internet_Relay_Chat ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@li

[IAEP] [Grassroots-l] OLPC in Kindergarten

2009-06-13 Thread forster
Edward wrote "I am working on a version of Turtle Art that will use icons rather than text labels on the tiles, and I want to test how much of it the preliterate can grasp, and what we can teach using that capability. We can demonstrate many topics in Turtle Art, even if the children can't yet pro

Re: [IAEP] [Grassroots-l] OLPC in Kindergarten

2009-06-14 Thread forster
> Radia Perlman in the 70s when at student at MIT did extensive experiments > with preliterate children and the LOGO turtle and built a number of > interfaces for them. She also spent some time at Xerox PARC where we > duplicated her interfaces and did many similar experiments with chldren 3

Re: [IAEP] Open Office on XO?

2009-06-19 Thread forster
> Hi... > Has anyone out there in Sugarland been able to run Open Office on an XO? I > have someone doing a project that sounds like he may need a spreadsheet > program and a presentation program for. I used to think that the lack of a spreadsheet was a serious deficiency but now think that Go

Re: [IAEP] Comments on David Kokorowski, David Pritchard and ''Mastering'' Educational SW

2009-06-29 Thread forster
I share Alan and Edward's concern that we are selling kids short, if physics education is all about just getting the 'right' answers but want to break down the question posed by Greg into some sub-questions: 1)Despite the limitations of education which focuses on getting the 'right' answers, mo

Re: [IAEP] Alternative icon design for Get Internet Archive Books, please comment

2009-06-30 Thread forster
Jim I like the icon of the browser on the open book To me it says: get a book from the internet Unlike the other suggestions, it can be interpreted without any prior knowledge, because it builds on the Browse and book reader icons which have their meaning defined within Sugar by these Activitie

Re: [IAEP] Physics

2009-06-30 Thread forster
I like Physics, thanks for drawing my attention to it. A simple guide to hacking Physics using Activities that normally come with a XO (Browse, Pippy & Terminal) at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Modifying_Activities#Modifying_Physics > Currently all objects have the same material settings: >

Re: [IAEP] 7th-grade biology

2009-07-01 Thread forster
> I and others are starting a project in 7th-grade biology teaching and > learning, with a focus on pre-biotic and biological evolution, ... > Anybody interested? Edward, see smartbug at http://rupert.id.au/schoolgamemaker/samples3/ Bugs start out with a matrix of random numbers which relate thei

Re: [IAEP] 7th-grade biology

2009-07-01 Thread forster
Bert Here's the pseudocode: Information about object: controller Sprite: Solid: false Visible: true Depth: 0 Persistent: false Parent: Mask: Create Event: set Alarm 0 to 7 set variable foodnumber to 0 set variable bugnumber to 0 execute code: show_info() set variable depth to -500 set variab

Re: [IAEP] GPA Report

2009-07-01 Thread forster
> We are hoping that the kids can create a US version of the Uruguay > geography/facts game. Any ideas on how to make that easy to do? The > vision is they will learn things in class then make them into questions > to put into the game. We will meet with the third grade on Thursday > afternoons. S

Re: [IAEP] SoaS notes: Gardner (GPA)

2009-07-07 Thread forster
Thanks Caroline/Mel/Walter for documenting this They are useful observations It may help to give some background: year level socio-economics in school/lunchtime/holiday program? prior experience (including Logo etc) Should you introduce standard terminology and what about concepts which they ha

Re: [IAEP] SoaS notes: Gardner (GPA)

2009-07-08 Thread forster
> Thanks Tony, > > Background info is here: http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Gardner_Pilot_Academy > Click on the link for the GPA school for demographics. > > Yesterday was 2nd going into 3rd Graders. Today 3rd going into 4th. > Thanks, very comprehensive, would it be a good idea to add Caroline/M

Re: [IAEP] clock activity

2009-07-14 Thread forster
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 06:54:31PM -0400, Caroline Meeks wrote: > > Can the clock activity be used to teach telling time? It seems to only show > > the current time with no way to change it. > > > > The second graders just did a unit on telling time and it might be cool to > > do something with

Re: [IAEP] GPA Notes from visit on Wed July 8

2009-07-22 Thread forster
> On idle thought #1: Give me a few icons to use as examples. Then I'll > try to find time to just point to it and ask the kids: "what do you > think that does". The truth is that I'm not sure how they figured out > that the computer can talk! I'm guessing its from the Speak icon but > that's reall

Re: [IAEP] SoaS feedback (Physics)

2009-07-28 Thread forster
Bill I have been putting together a guide on reprogramming the Physics Activity http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Modifying_Activities#Modifying_Physics because: I like Physics, its good learning The Python/Sugar 'wrapper' code is not too difficult to program So another option is to modify the code to

Re: [IAEP] sounds in Speak

2009-07-28 Thread forster
> I'd imagine that the sound of the letter would vary depending on language, > right? There is a dictionary for each language (eg. en_dict for English) which is compiled from a rules file and a list file, you can find a description of the syntax for these files in the dictionary documentation h

Re: [IAEP] Letter to GPA Parents

2009-07-29 Thread forster
> We found out today that summer school ends a week sooner then we thought! It > ends next week. > We want to send the sticks home with the kids. We need to write a letter to > the parents explaining what the stick is. Does anyone have any suggestions > or sample letters? What would be good, but

Re: [IAEP] Resend: Activities for SoaS?

2009-08-04 Thread forster
> do any of the Activities requiring peripherals work with SoaS? For example, > what works with Measure? Can you use the temperature probe? Does the > oscilloscope work? My recollection is that the audio input for data logging doesnt work on non XO hardware but I could be wrong. Walter wil

[IAEP] Anyone using the Map activity?

2009-08-07 Thread forster
I tried Map on a XO The map viewer and search worked OK. I didnt try to insert any material from the Journal. It starts zoomed in on Boston and I had to do a lot of pressing zoom out before I could do any useful navigation. I did not see a zoom slider tool. It is missing a lot of features of m

Re: [IAEP] Anyone using the Map activity?

2009-08-09 Thread forster
Hi Nick Map V3 reports as V2 in the home list view Its still effectively twice as slow as google maps to go to a new location, would be better if it started zoomed out Does not display map/satellite/hybrid/terrain till you zoom (i think you pointed that out) sometimes measure takes its first poi

Re: [IAEP] reporting bug and making recommendation on software

2009-08-09 Thread forster
> We are exploring a new feedback site: http://getsatisfaction.com/sugarlabs Is it worth adding a link at getsatisfaction to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Contacts ? tony ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@list

Re: [IAEP] Physics - Lesson plans ideas?

2009-08-16 Thread forster
Alan You ask whether Bill's Physics Activity suggestions have anything to do with real science. You rightly point out that the Physics Activity is an imperfect simulation of the real world and just as mysterious. Certainly playing with the Physics Activity is not the best way to discover how th

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Assessment in Karma

2009-08-23 Thread forster
Hi We mostly assess that which can easily be measured rather than that which relates to the important education outcomes. Lower order skills as defined in Blooms Taxonomy, simple recall, rather than understanding and creating. So far its OK, an understandable response to the realities. We the

[IAEP] activities.sugarlabs.org - xo

2009-08-25 Thread forster
For some reason Browse on my XO is having difficulty getting anything from activities.sugarlabs.org but my PC with Firefox is OK. Its just activities.sugarlabs.org and its subdirectories http://www.sugarlabs.org/ is ok http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/ is ok can anyone confirm that there is a problem?

Re: [IAEP] activities.sugarlabs.org - xo

2009-08-25 Thread forster
Thanks Aleksey (for the benefit of others we discussed this offlist last night my time) Aleksey was able to access the site OK but it has been offline on my XO for 48 hours, there was a period last night of about an hour when it was offline on my PC too. It appears to be a routing issue between m

Re: [IAEP] svg animations, no?

2009-08-28 Thread forster
> > > Sugar uses librsvg to render all SVGs, I'm not sure which are the > > > capabilities of this library regarding animations. http://osdir.com/ml/gnome.lib.librsvg.devel/2008-07/msg3.html "Animation is going to be a lot of work, and I'm not sure that I'd want it in librsvg. It's a very goo

Re: [IAEP] deployment team meeting?

2009-08-30 Thread forster
Its worth looking at http://www.edulists.com.au/ to see what help teachers ask for (see archived messages) and what they share (click on a branch) You will see that its mainly the ICT areas where there are contributions. Some thoughts: Its really only the ICT teachers that network, probably becau

Re: [IAEP] installation problem

2009-09-08 Thread forster
I have tried to create on a 2GB stick and it fails: not enough space Have tried the max allowed a bit over 1.5G, 1.5G and 1.4G the iso is 379 MB Tony > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Tomeu Vizoso wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 16:19, roberto wrote: > >> hello everyone > >> i am trying to inst

Re: [IAEP] Electricity and magentism

2009-09-09 Thread forster
> At GPA we will be working with the 4th grade. Their fall science topic > is Electricity > and magentism. > We have the GCompris activity: GCompris Electric 11 > > Any other suggestions? http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2009/03/xo-electricity-and-magnetism.html This works on the XO but may not wo

Re: [IAEP] installation problem

2009-09-09 Thread forster
Dave After reserving 1GB, windows reports 1.87G total, 1.36G used, 0.526G free The log below shows attempts ranging from 1.539GB to 1.05GB In all cases it fails near the 99% point, on closer reading it was only 1.539GB that reported insufficient space. My recollection is that the on screen displa

Re: [IAEP] turtle art clean request

2009-09-13 Thread forster
If you are redoing clean, I have found an inconsistency in TA63 clean clears the print display but the eraser icon does not > Good point. I'll look into adding the new block (probably not until > after feature freeze, alas). ___ IAEP -- It's An Educa

Re: [IAEP] Another article that could probably use some measured response.

2009-09-14 Thread forster
This article quotes the study of Romanian students which found that computers lowered learning outcomes I believe this study is flawed and its conclusions suspect http://tonyforster.blogspot.com/2008/06/home-pcs-lower-education-results.html Tony > This may have already come up in the 680 unrea

Re: [IAEP] Sugar evaluation and impact

2009-09-16 Thread forster
see http://wiki.laptop.org/images/f/fb/Literature_Review_040309.pdf ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] Trans.: [info-fsf Digest] Turtles all the way down to the source code

2009-09-16 Thread forster
Software Freedom Day, Melbourne, Sat 19th September http://www.softwarefreedomday.org/melb Squeak - Tansel Ersavas 12:30 Scratch&TurtleArt - Tony Forster 1:00 > Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:24:56 -0400 > From: Deborah Nicholson > Subject: [FSF] Turtles all the way down to the sourc

Re: [IAEP] Sugar evaluation and impact

2009-09-16 Thread forster
Gerald I for one am interested. Can you make your research public? If so why not upload to olpc or sugarlabs wiki? Tony > This literature review is fantastic. > > I am a middle school science teacher in Northern Westchester County, NY, and > am also a doctoral student at Pace University. My res

Re: [IAEP] [support-gang] Which Language?

2009-09-27 Thread forster
> > OK, the consensus is Python so far. �Can he do that strictly on XOs? How > > does he package it to share as an Activity? �Can he do it on a Mac or PC > > and then package it for Sugar? �I think he would really like to do it all > > on the XO. Is this possible? How does it get from term

Re: [IAEP] inquiry on constructionism advantages

2009-09-28 Thread forster
> I have received an inquiry on implementing constructionism from a high > official in the Bolivian government. > > Since my opinion may be biased :-), I request you help us with clear, > simple and please objective answers (no vapor-stuff), if at all possible Yamandu The short answer is proba

Re: [IAEP] Short Survey for Educators

2009-10-04 Thread forster
You might also get some ideas from http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Education_Team/Survey_questions Tony > > Hi... > > I had a little time this evening to work on a possible educator's survey. I > tried to keep it short and simple so folks would actually answer the > questions. If some of you co

Re: [IAEP] R: [SoaS] E-Books for Sugar on a Stick (Blueberry)

2009-11-17 Thread forster
Hi Another consideration is the reading age of the books. This tip I found useful: You can use the grammar checker of MS Word to find the Flesch-Kincaid reading age of a text by just pasting a few paragraphs of the text into Word. Tony > I made a (very) little survey: > - the Alice in wonderland

Re: [IAEP] Sharing EToys projects

2009-12-06 Thread forster
There is a description of Mime at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sugar.mime#Who_decides_the_default_activity_for_opening_files_of_different_mime_types.3F and more at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Journal_entry_bundles You can specify the Mime if using copy-to-journal from the command line eg copy-to-journa

[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] sounds in Speak

2009-12-14 Thread forster
Speak has editable dictionaries which control the sound, for each language there is a rules and list file It should be possible to edit them to make the sounds of individual letters, its certainly possible to do the opposite, sound the name of the letters in abbreviations eg. OLPC Instructions

Re: [IAEP] Donation page broken

2009-12-14 Thread forster
google checkout gives an error if =$1 no error if $10 paypal works > Works o.k for me. > > > Rafael Ortiz > > > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Walter Bender > wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:04 AM, Bernie Innocenti > > wrote: > >> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Donate

Re: [IAEP] Global Game Jam 2010, Australia

2010-01-28 Thread forster
FYI Global Game Jam Australia, Melbourne & Sydney MELBOURNE: Welcome to the Global Game Jam 2010. The homepage for the GGJ can be found at: http://globalgamejam.org/jam To sign up for the Deakin GGJ location, please confirm with Sophie Nichol: snichol at deakin.edu.au (rathe

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: #1690 UNSP: Retain font and size in Write Activity

2010-01-29 Thread forster
Tomeu I think that Dirk is asking that a new instance of Write should commence in the last saved font. I do not think that 12 point is too small on the XO screen. Thanks Sascha for your research on seriff sans seriff, there seems little merit in the arguments for and against seriffs. I would

Re: [IAEP] LOGO advocacy

2010-02-01 Thread forster
Bernie I have added Logo material at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team/Presentations#Presentations_on_Logo_Like_Languages Tony > [cc iaep] > > Dear Walter, > > the education technology lead at Paraguay Educa, Pacita, is looking for > some good papers about the benefits of LOGO and si

Re: [IAEP] Webinar tonight, February 17th: Math game design framework

2010-02-18 Thread forster
Maria has posted a recording of the webinar at http://mathfuture.wikispaces.com/Math+Games+Framework Tony > This is a part of the Math 2.0 Interest Group series of weekly open > webinars. We will discuss a few game design books, see what game mechanics > correspond to math ideas, and look at examp

Re: [IAEP] [etoys-dev] TED - Alan Kay - Example(8:44)

2010-02-19 Thread forster
I started trying to do something similar with Game Maker, a closed source but free visual language. The proof of Pythagoras was too hard for me so I settled for a demonstration see http://rupert.id.au/schoolgamemaker/samples3/ It wouldnt be too hard to port to Turtle Art or Etoys Here's the cod

[IAEP] [etoys-dev] TED - Alan Kay - Example(8:44)

2010-02-19 Thread forster
Pythagoras video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTuAq5OeWhY could be done in Turtle Art or Etoys ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] JTLA Special Edition: ''Educational Outcomes and Research from 1:1 Computing Setting''

2010-02-20 Thread forster
> thanks to an article on eschoolnews.com > (http://www.eschoolnews.com/2010/02/16/11-programs-only-as-good-as-their-teachers/) > I stumbled across a special edition of the Journal of Technology, Learning > and Assessment (JTLA) which focuses on "Educational Outcomes and Research > from 1:1 Com

Re: [IAEP] [etoys-dev] TED - Alan Kay - Example(8:44)

2010-02-21 Thread forster
> Here is an SVG of the simplest proof of the Pythagorean theorem I > know, by dissection of a large square into five pieces that fit > together into two smaller squares side by side. Thanks Edward Not an easy task to do in Game Maker because you would need to generate the triangles in both the

Re: [IAEP] [etoys-dev] TED - Alan Kay - Example(8:44)

2010-02-21 Thread forster
> Here is an SVG of the simplest proof of the Pythagorean theorem I > know, by dissection of a large square into five pieces that fit > together into two smaller squares side by side. Thanks Edward I did not notice that no rotations were required (silly me) Implemented in Turtle Art, not so hard.

Re: [IAEP] [etoys-dev] TED - Alan Kay - Example(8:44)

2010-02-22 Thread forster
> That layout doesn't really convey the idea of the proof to me. This does: > (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_beauty) > - Bert - Thanks good suggestion, have added to the blog post and left it as an openended challenge along the lines of Barry Newell's challenges http://billkerr2

Re: [IAEP] JTLA Special Edition: ''Educational Outcomes and Research from 1:1 Computing Setting''

2010-02-22 Thread forster
> Thanks Tony I had missed that when I skimmed it. There is lots of evidence, > including common sense, for the importance of increased learning time. > > Sugar on a Stick people, this is important to us too, we need sticks that > work outside the school. :) > > Caroline just found another st

Re: [IAEP] [etoys-dev] TED - Alan Kay - Example(8:44)

2010-02-22 Thread forster
Implementation in Game Maker at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM5wi4bSzEw ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [etoys-dev] TED - Alan Kay - Example(8:44)

2010-02-23 Thread forster
> Which brings us back to the > point that symbolism is not the same as algebra. > Maria Droujkova Maria, Can you please expand that point Lemke would, I think, argue that mathematics is a set of symbols for communicating with and thinking with http://www.schools.ash.org.au/litweb/page500.html

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Turtle Art on Activities.sugarlabs.org

2010-02-25 Thread forster
What about multimedia objects in a ta project? I'm not even sure how to transfer a project between two computers with associated multimedia . Manually copy all relevant journal entries? Are entrynames preserved? Tony ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Projec

Re: [IAEP] Math on Web

2010-02-26 Thread forster
>1. YouTube is blocked by the district >2. No internet access >3. Bandwidth if everyone is watching a video at once >4. Workflow/Classflow challenges how do we get the kids watching the >video we want them to watch and doing the work before and after to make it > a >learnin

Re: [IAEP] guidance for developing activity

2010-03-01 Thread forster
> I am developing an activity for XO laptop. Through which child can learn > about the various mode of transpiration. Can any body suggest me which > software I can use to develop the activity. Maybe Etoys or Turtle Art? Both are powerful programming languages, they also allow students to "look u

Re: [IAEP] [FIELDBACK] Etoys

2010-03-02 Thread forster
> > You know, of course, that under the View toolbar in Turtle Art, the > > coordinates of the Turtle are displayed. :) Any feedback re TA-83 > > would be very welcome. > > > > -walter > > Wow - This is great work! This was something I was missing in class > sometimes, as I have already told you

Re: [IAEP] Response to Intervention - Is this being used outside the US?

2010-03-11 Thread forster
Caroline Thanks for bring this to my attention, you have done a good video presentation of it. Testing (and tailoring instruction as a response) is coming back into fashion in Australia. Australia seems to lag the US in this. The US has had the No Child Left Behind for a while now, which has a

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Children want Sugar 0.84, for the wrong reason

2010-03-13 Thread forster
I have been unable to install Bernie's OS67 or Steven Parrish's os12, Bernie and I have been discussing this off list. If anybody has the same problem please let us know. Detailed instructions on the installation process are at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Clean-install_procedure#Development_builds

Re: [IAEP] ANNOUNCE: New F11 XO-1build 115 Paraguay

2010-03-28 Thread forster
Bernie Build 115 looks good thanks. I was able to run TurtleArt under both Sugar and Gnome. That was fun. Touchpad seems jumpier but that may just be coincidence. Only problem is that the XO will not boot unless a USB is plugged in with a devkey. This is probably why I was unable to use your p

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Helping kids develop mobile applications?

2010-03-30 Thread forster
> This was posted to mobile-devel-l...@gnome.org by Stormy. I figure, > while not directly gnome mobile sugar uses alot of the gnome mobile > stack. Someone from San Francisco might be interested or able to do a > combined sugar and gnome-mobile event. Its certainly worth considering making Sugar

Re: [IAEP] Fwd: Helping kids develop mobile applications?

2010-03-31 Thread forster
“you cannot edit projects on the phone. The authoring UI would have to be completely redesigned. For serious work it's just too small, you at least need a screen size like the XO has“ Thanks Bert & Cherry What would a good learning app for a phone look like? It need not be a visual block p

[IAEP] OECD releases a new report ..

2010-04-20 Thread forster
> Fwd: OECD releases a new report on technology use and educational > performance in PISA > > Dear all, > > The OECD Centre for Educational Research and Innovation, in cooperation > with the OECD Directorate for Science, Technology and Industry and with > the support of the Norwegian Ministry

Re: [IAEP] SoaS Creation Saga

2010-04-21 Thread forster
you probably have all this but: A: a floppy B: the second floppy C: the hard drive D: etc additional drives in the time order windows discovered them To eject, click on the remove hardware icon at the bottom right left click is less confusing than right click you get a list of removable drives, c

Re: [IAEP] OLPC, Sugar and Sugar on a Stick in Global Issues curriculum?

2010-05-06 Thread forster
Looks like it might be part of the Oxford Reading Tree http://fds.oup.com/www0.oup.com/ort/2/intro.html Tony > fds.oup.com/www.oup.com/pdf/13/9780199180813.pdf

Re: [IAEP] Peru, OLPC and Wikipedia

2010-05-10 Thread forster
> I've been following your comments on this. Am I the only one who > finds this charming but at the same time strangely disturbing If you mean the intrusion of the outside world into their idyllic lifestyle - no If you mean the interviewee talking about Darwinian social evolution - yes O

Re: [IAEP] Peru, OLPC and Wikipedia

2010-05-10 Thread forster
Caryl A little more research by me the interviewed social Darwinist is Robert Wright, the author of Nonzero http://www.nonzero.org/ The filmmaker is Righteous Pictures http://righteouspictures.com/ Wright seems to believe that there is a higher purpose to biological and social evolution, tha

Re: [IAEP] Pippy improvements (Python examples)

2010-05-15 Thread forster
Hi Dinko A Pippy example of reading data from the microphone input would be good. See Measure and Turtle Art experimental fork for code. It would be good if the samples you create could also be used in the Turtle Blocks programmable Python block Tony > Hello everyone, > > I'm Dinko and I'l

Re: [IAEP] Need Help With A Small XO-1 Problem

2010-05-19 Thread forster
Quoting Caryl Bigenho : Caryl Open the Log activity and see if you are generating any error messages You will find a lot of warnings already in the logs but you may see some new error messages, particularly in the log for write after you paste Tony > > Hi Folks... > A couple of quick XO-1

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Scratch-20100321

2010-05-22 Thread forster
my recollection it is except for the name scratch and the cat. that is, you can create a fork if you dont call it scratch and you dont use the cat graphic tony > Is Scratch free software now? I believe it didn't used to be. The > license page in ASLO is empty: > > http://activities.sugarlabs.or

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [ASLO] Release Scratch-20100321

2010-05-22 Thread forster
> Also about Scratch variations..I came across panther > > http://scratch.wikia.com/wiki/Panther Thanks Rafael for finding Panther. Looking at the dates its only just been released. Its a strong endorsement of Sugar's educational philosophy, open source, low entry, high ceiling (or "Turtles al

Re: [IAEP] community team

2010-05-24 Thread forster
Yes, please, all meetings listed in UTC. There are now proposals for Deployment and Community meetings. What are the scope of the two meetings? Is there overlap? Are both going ahead? Attending meetings is a big commitment from Australia/NZ, they are typically 4am local time, we understand that

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