In a message dated 9/7/2005 3:19:51 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Can someone explain me what DASD SKEW means?
You have 1,000 DASD volumes in your DASD farm, only 100 of them are ever
accessed at all, and 20 of those account for 90% of all I/O requests. That's
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does the subjunctive mean you perceive Java has failed to meet its
objective? Has Java become platform-sensitive, outcome of lawsuits
notwithstanding?
-- gil
Java on a server might be ok but Java on the PC is a royal pain. On my
ThinkPad running Windows XP I have a
Is anyone having problems with GLOBALSCAPE Secure SSL FTP server on ZOS
1.5. Every 10th-15th job we get a return code 410 from the FTP job. The
authentication fails with the 410. We then rerun the job again and it
works
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 11:07 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: address space
snip
Chris,
Write a book that explains POPS (in your spare time) I am sure many
DASD skew is often modeled as an instance of what is also called Zipf's law,
a Pareto distribution, or a power law. The idea if that the relative
frequencies
of the elements of some set of mutually exclusive events vary inversely as a
function of their ranks, e.g.,
P(n) = 1/n^a
where a is
On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 07:41 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
This will likely sound really crazy, but I have actually looked at the
Hercules/390 source in order to try to better understand what some of
the newer, complex, instructions do. I find that reading C code
(assuming no errors in
The data included is a bit dated, 1998. I found that the average CPU time
used, as part of HSM's total CPU used, during the month was proportioned
as follows. Primary space used 17%, secondary used 6%, backup space
management used 64% and other used 13%. I should state that none of the
In a message dated 9/7/2005 8:29:15 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Whether you think APL is easier to read that the Principles book is a
matter of debate.
Dr. Iverson gave a talk at local ACM in late 60's. It was great!
Wish I had kept a recording. Basically took
I've discovered that IBM's FTP doesn't require NUM OFF if each line is
terminated with a semicolon. Example:
//GO EXEC PGM=IKJEFT01,DYNAMNBR=20,PARM='FTP (EXIT TIMEOUT 360',
// REGION=3M
//SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSPRT DD SYSOUT=*
//SYSTSIN DD DUMMY
//INPUTDD *
In a recent note, Ben Alford said:
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 10:10:58 EDT
I've discovered that IBM's FTP doesn't require NUM OFF if each line is
terminated with a semicolon. Example:
//INPUTDD *
testcase.boulder.ibm.com (timeout 720 ;
anonymous
Whenever someone changes the subject of a thread (even something
seemingly as innocuous as changing case of letters), it can throw off
email or newsreader software threading. Please leave the subject line
as is. Thanks.
Don Imbriale
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On Wed, 2005-09-07 at 08:40 -0600, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
NUM OFF certainly seems to me the more comfortable solution:
Heretofore we have wrapped control statements in an IEBGENER step,
stripping out columns 73-80. Then if somebody (re)sequences the member,
we don't care much.
The semicolon
In a message dated 9/7/2005 9:41:28 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
set it once in profile, never wory about it again; and avoid
one (or several) keystrokes in each line.
Sort of like spell-checkers, sometimes they get turned off!
Some of the CUT/PASTE macros
Chris has no concept of spare time. :-D
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I apologize for the tardiness of my reply. I had other urgent matters
to attend to outside of work. I had to take about 7 days of vacation.
Anyway, the problem was fixed when I unloaded the PDS and then performed
the XMIT. I don't use it to often, and, I made an invalid assumption
that the
Course if you dropped the APL ball,
warning: another old timer talking history; uninterested youngsters can
skip this message
Gosh, the APL ball. That brings back memories.
For you newbies, he is referring to the IBM Selectric Typewriter, which
had a replaceable ball with all the
I received the following information about your questions from the
Binder architect, Leona Baumgart.
John Ehrman
A couple of related issues are touched on in this series of notes.
1. The default action of the binder is that a non-executable module
will NOT replace an executable one.
warning: another old timer talking history; uninterested youngsters
can
skip this message
Gosh, the APL ball. That brings back memories.
Yep. I loved APL. I saw, but never used the selectric with the APL ball.
I only ever used 3277 and later terminals with the APL character set
built in -
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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 12:39 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Binder question.
I received the following information about your questions from the
Your unload followed by XMIT isn't necessary - that is exactly what XMIT
does.
From the manual:
If a partitioned data set (PDS) is transmitted, it is unloaded with
IEBCOPY and then the unloaded version is transmitted.
Don Imbriale
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I miss APL. It was one of the first languages I learned.
Bruce, you couldn't get your editor code into one line?
For the young 'uns - there were always efforts to see how few lines an APL
program would be. I knew of someone who wrote an entire data base system in
a program that was about a
APL . . . hurts . . . head . . .
Great acronym, though. IIRC, stood for A Programming Language.
Jon
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On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 12:43:58 -0500, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Are we a bunch of old wierdos or what?
Yep :-)
The world is divided in 2 kinds of people :
young weirdos and old weirdos
You start as young weirdo ... but then , one day you wakeup and realize you are
an old weirdo ..
In a message dated 9/7/2005 1:10:38 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
there were always efforts to see how few lines an APL
program would be. I knew of someone who wrote an entire data base system in
a program that was about a half-page.
A sophomoric, yet fertile,
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Mullins
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 1:10 PM
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Subject: APL (was RE: address space)
I miss APL. It was one of the first languages I learned.
Cletus,
z/OS has supported FTP encryption (SSL and SSH style) for quite some time
now. Have you investigated those options?
Please check the recent IBM-MAIN archives for some thoughts on that subject
-- notably the thought that FTP encryption is probably necessary but not
sufficient for
I've discovered that IBM's FTP doesn't require NUM OFF if each line is
terminated with a semicolon.
...
I haven't used anything but NUM OFF for years.
My EDIT profile turns it off, on anything that has it on, automatically.
-teD
In God we Trust!
All others bring data!
-- W. Edwards Deming
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 11:09:57 -0700, Ray Mullins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For the young 'uns - there were always efforts to see how few lines an APL
program would be. I knew of someone who wrote an entire data base system
in
a program that was about a half-page. It was a delimited data base,
Bruce, you couldn't get your editor code into one line?
Hey, I never said how many lines it was, just that it was half a page
(printed). Honestly I don't recall, but it wasn't a lot of lines. For
the uninitiated, APL was a very compact language, using a lot of special
characters for
Great acronym, though. IIRC, stood for A Programming Language.
...
Correct.
If my ex hadn't left me I would still have a (signed) copy of a first edition
of Iverson's book.
IIRC, it was entitled:
A Programming Language.
-teD
In God we Trust!
All others bring data!
-- W. Edwards Deming
A friend of mine used to work at IP Sharp(e?).
IP Sharp.
One of the things he implemented in Sharp APL was a way of getting
different types into a matrix. He created a 'Matrix of Matrices'.
So, you could create a bunch of 1byN Matrix elements.
This way you could store (for example):
Part
Sharp APL gained mixed data types in
arrays shortly before IBM delivered the original APL2 IUP in 1984/5
...
That was the project my friend worked on.
His first out of University.
-teD
In God we Trust!
All others bring data!
-- W. Edwards Deming
In a message dated 9/7/2005 12:23:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
needed a special Selectric ball and key tops to program in APL, or read
the code. Selectrics were fun to watch when typing fast. The ball
would spin and tilt just like those gut-spewing rides at
Hi John,
It would be helpful to know a _little_ about what this C/C++
code does. For example, C I/O is byte-oriented; which is generally
a poor idea on the mainframe. If you C/C++ programs are doing I/O,
and if it was ported unchanged from another system, then that could
be your issue.
In a message dated 9/7/2005 12:46:23 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Thanks much. Now to convince everybody that LET is evil. That has been a
default for the Linkage Editor, and now the Binder, here for longer that
I have been around (13 yrs.)
Guess it's shop
In a message dated 9/7/2005 2:50:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
After long use the flip
down cap would spring open in the middle of a line and shoot the
ball out or down into the platen well.
Reminds me of the 2501 card reader I had in my very first computer
In a message dated 9/7/2005 1:07:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Your unload followed by XMIT isn't necessary - that is exactly what XMIT
does.
Exactly! The default XMIT creates an unload in special FB 80 by 3120 format
as opposed to the normal IEBCOPY VB
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From: John Fly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:28 PM
Subject: Performance : COBOL trounces C / C++?
Performance: COBOL trounces C / C++?
snip
We *always* see a huge discrepancy in the performance of
On Sep 7, 2005, at 3:20 PM, Thomas Conley wrote:
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 2:28 PM
Subject: Performance : COBOL trounces C / C++?
Performance: COBOL trounces C / C++?
snip
We
There are eleven APL buttons in my collection at
http://www.mxg.com/thebuttonman
(Select Browse, then change ACM to APL and search Products)
Most of them are undated and have no authorship information,
although one was for APL's 25th Anniversary, 1966-1991.
If you know more about any of them,
Hi, All,
Got a frustrating puzzle here: An ISV product with an ISPF interface was
installed into libraries shared between two LPARs on different physical CPUs
(both G5 machines). One LPAR was at z/OS 1.4, the other at z/OS 1.5. The
product installed and functioned correctly on both LPARs.
Now
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Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2005 3:37 PM
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Subject: Re: Performance : COBOL trounces C / C++?
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IBM (lately meaning the last 10 years or so) some of
On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 15:23:46 -0500, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
Can anybody suggest any ideas how to decipher what it can't find, before I
go thru the installation again?
You might want to start with ISPF dialog function trace (opt. 7.7).
Mark
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In a message dated 9/7/2005 4:00:21 P.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Can anybody suggest any ideas how to decipher what it can't find, before I
go thru the installation again?
How do the ISV libraries get allocated? LOGON PROC, ISVALLOC
CLIST, REXX Exec. Have those
Tnx Greg will track PK10031 and verify the issue in DB2 Vnext.
BTW: MQ raised a very low priority APAR PK11489. Fine with me and I offer
to test an APARFIX if any.
However this is not the end of my owner gone project.
Roland
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I seem to have vtoc orphans. These are vtoc entries for greater than 1st
extents of a multi volume files which has since moved on.So two
questions...
1) Safe to simply zap the entry out of the old vtoc knowing the file is
safe and sound on other volumes now?
2) Any utility out there known
In a recent note, McKown, John said:
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 16:06:31 -0500
Another possibility is poorly coded C. I've seen too many programs
from the old days which use a C coded loop to move data, one byte at a
time, from one variable to another:
char var1[100], var2[100];
char
Paul Gilmartin wrote:
I'm astonished. I had believed that strcpy() was primeval. (This is
strcpy(), isn't it?) Of course, it's always possible that the
RTL implements strcpy() with exactly the above code.
What does the above look like in COBOL? In assembler, it's
TRT to find the
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/06/2005
at 09:26 AM, Bill Fairchild [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I have the same prejudice NOW, since my income is solely from being
an employee. However, retirees often live on proceeds from
investments made years ago in publicly owned corporations whose
main
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/06/2005
at 06:56 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I don't understand the architecture here. Is SNA a layer under NJE?
Not exactly; NJE is a protocol that could run over BSC, CTCA or SNA[1]
connections. IBM has added native TCP/IP as a fourth transport
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/06/2005
at 10:12 AM, Ed Finnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Almost as bad as it's partner in crime SP 1.2!
SP 1.2 was much later than DF/EF. DF/EF came out at about the same
time as DF/DS, and before MVS/SP.
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In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/06/2005
at 06:47 AM, Paul Gilmartin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Linux for what hardware platform?
I'd like to see binaries for at least AMD and Intel; zSeries would be
nice, but as long as there is a z/OS version a z/Linux version
wouldn't add that much.
I'd hope
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on
09/06/2005
at 08:31 AM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Being the original questioner, I will say that anything I might write
for the Librarian functionality would probably be written in Perl.
Perl is fairly transportable. However, I am likely to end up using
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/06/2005
at 09:12 AM, Jay Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I can't speak to Ruby, but Python does.
Perl runs (mostly) happily on OS/2; does Python?
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On Sep 7, 2005, at 4:06 PM, McKown, John wrote:
--SNIp---
Another possibility is poorly coded C. I've seen too many programs
from the old days which use a C coded loop to move data, one byte at
a
time, from one variable to another:
char var1[100], var2[100];
On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 05:16:54PM -0300, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/06/2005
at 09:12 AM, Jay Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I can't speak to Ruby, but Python does.
Perl runs (mostly) happily on OS/2; does Python?
Yes. See
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This discussion got me thinking about my systems, z/OS R4
on twin zSeries processors. Specifically, what would I 'see'
from TMON/MVS if a Job/Task/TSU were to use above-the-bar
storage?
So I copied the assembler code that Todd Burch posted,
added a IARV64 GETSTOR/DETACH requests that I copied
I have gotten several off list emails on this.
I do not know (except for one person possibly) any of the people
involved with the merge of the GUIDE to SHARE requirements. I am
going on what seems to be what happened to the GUIDE requirements.
The consensus seems to be that the actual merge
We are preparing to implement an asynchronous PPRC hardware solution between
our production site and our disaster recovery site using the IBM ESS800
series subsystems for a tier 4 DR solution. I have found plenty of resources
regarding the configuration of the hardware and communication, but have
Glenn Miller wrote:
As my luck goes ( which is usually not great ), the coding of the
example from the manual is not correct. From code from the manual:
IARV64 REQUEST=GETSTOR,SEGMENTS=NUMSEG,
ORIGIN=O,
RETCODE=LRETCODE,RSNCODE=LRSNCODE,
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