Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-25 Thread ibm-main
From: Brian Westerman I think that most existing z/800 and z/890 processor complexes probably already have been delivered with an IFL, and not to use it by running a z/Linux LPAR is really a waste. I also agree that if you have to pay for one now, that a Zaap is a pretty good deal and can

VSRBF

2005-09-25 Thread Mehrdad Rastegar
Hi all, In Ims V6R1, we have a high-access Osam database with 4096 blocks,another very high access multiple Osam database with 3 separate segments in 3 different Osam datasets with 8192 blocks,and many other vsam databases of different blocks sizes. How can i calculate the Optimum values for

Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-25 Thread Marian Gasparovic
Linux may be free, but try and get IBM to support their software on the free Linux. IBM's software lists SUSE, United Linux, or RH as requirments, all of these charge you per ILF for the right to run their free software on your box. IIRC SUSE is $18K per processor. It is SUSE and RH who

Re: Chinese character code table

2005-09-25 Thread Bo Xie
The url you provided is for iSeries not zSeries. -Bo Xie On 9/25/05, Charles Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are many: http://www-03.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/software/globalization/codepag es.html Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-25 Thread Marian Gasparovic
Of course I meant support for Linux, not for IBM sw. On 9/25/05, Marian Gasparovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linux may be free, but try and get IBM to support their software on the free Linux. IBM's software lists SUSE, United Linux, or RH as requirments, all of these charge you per ILF for

Re: MXI 4.3

2005-09-25 Thread Rob Scott
D TCPIP,,N,CONN,MAX=1 gives : 37 of 239 records Surely the 'MAX' parameter here is a function of the TCPIP code that responds to the operator command - MXI has no effect on it. I get this problem when issuing commands from SDSF, TSO CONSOLE, the master console or MXI. I really do not think

Re: Number of processors in a sysplex

2005-09-25 Thread Steve Comstock
Greg Dyck wrote: Now, the new z9 series can have up to 54 CPs per CPC; I have not seen anything about a different number of CPCs in a sysplex, so I am assuming a sysplex with all z9 systems could have up to 32 * 54 = 1728 CPs. Is this right? Or is the upper bound still 1024 The upper limit

Another z9 question

2005-09-25 Thread Steve Comstock
Will the new instructions, and modifications to existing instructions, introduced with the z9 series be retrofitted to the earlier z800, z890, z900 and / or z990 series? Kind regards, -Steve Comstock -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe

Re: VSRBF

2005-09-25 Thread Knutson, Sam
You might want to post this question to IMS-L (the IMS database mailing list) https://po.missouri.edu/archives/ims-l.html Thanks, Sam -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mehrdad Rastegar Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 4:06 AM

Re: Another z9 question

2005-09-25 Thread Craddock, Chris
Will the new instructions, and modifications to existing instructions, introduced with the z9 series be retrofitted to the earlier z800, z890, z900 and / or z990 series? Almost certainly not. CC -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Another z9 question

2005-09-25 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Steve Comstock wrote: Will the new instructions, and modifications to existing instructions, introduced with the z9 series be retrofitted to the earlier z800, z890, z900 and / or z990 series? No. But you can use STFLE to determine which facilities are present. The presence of STFLE is

Re: Is a Hurricane about to hit IBM ?

2005-09-25 Thread Craddock, Chris
Some extracts from an article pointed to by this URL : These are very old articles (see my notes below.) Did you have a point to make or are you just doing hardware archaeology 101? http://news.com.com/IBM+works+to+make+mainframes+mainstream/2100-1010_3- 1001595.html?tag=nl Published: May

Re: z/OS and OS/390 education

2005-09-25 Thread Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 9/23/2005 8:02:15 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Most SPAMMERs don't care. However, the zSeries audience is significantly smaller than the one for, uh, male enhancement type products. At the very least, the person should get Darren's approval.

Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3

2005-09-25 Thread Bill Fairchild
In a message dated 9/23/2005 9:57:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 'M' in MICS stands for MVS. MVS Integrated Control System, originally developed and marketed by Morino Associates. Some thought the M also had to do with Mario Marino, and then the ICS

Re: Command to query system info

2005-09-25 Thread Bill Fairchild
On 9/23/05, George, William (DHS-ITSD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a command that returns the model of the mainframe one is on? There is also the STIDP hardware instruction. It requires authorization as it is a privileged instruction. Bill Fairchild

Re: Is a Hurricane about to hit IBM ?

2005-09-25 Thread AntonMvs2005
Hi, Chris, I would explain this date phenomena slowly for you : a) Go here http://news.com.com/ for the latest news b) Then you browse down this page to this article : All CNET News.com blogs (Last updated: Sep 25, 2005 11:41 AM ) IBM: IBM at the Emmy's c) Then you click on

Some questions about cross memory services

2005-09-25 Thread John Krew
After reading up on cross-memory services (Extended Addressability Guide and the James Antognini article), I have the following questions: 1. Assuming I want to connect only selected address spaces to the service address space (via non-system LX): a. to execute the ATSET and

Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/22/2005 at 04:00 PM, Clark, Kevin D, HRC-Alexandria/EDS [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: A need a quick consciences on installing websphere applications and some non-IBM products on the mainframe Z/os 1.4 That's fairly old; have you considered upgrading?

Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3

2005-09-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/23/2005 at 07:08 AM, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Interesting I remember it as System Productivity Facility, to which one could add the optional PDF (Program Development Facility) we now recognize as ISPF option 2 (mainly). Of course it's possible that

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/23/2005 at 10:49 AM, Robert Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: You're one level of service off. Not really; my statement as written (If ...) is valid for both old and new service levels. BTW, you might want to provide the PTF numbers for those who are backlevel. IPCS

Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/24/2005 at 09:17 PM, Thomas Berg [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Are You saying that from a management and/or operations view, z/VM is mandatory to get full/enough value out of deploying Linux on zSeries ? I read his message as saying that if he goes production then he

Re: z/OS and OS/390 education

2005-09-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/22/2005 at 12:00 AM, Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Am I the only one who hates ads on IBM-Main? No. OTOH, I consider boilerplate course, documentation, job and product announcements to be useful, provided that they adhere to whatever ground rules Big D sets.

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-25 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/23/2005 at 03:43 PM, Kirk Talman [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Used to be any file can be placed in SYSOUT=B and shipped anywhere as a binary image. There's nothing special about SYSOUT=B. By convention, B is typically defined as a punch class, but that just means that

Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3

2005-09-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
MVS Integrated Control System, originally developed and marketed by Morino Associates. ... MVS Information Control System! I worked at the Ontario Government and the Bank of Nova Scotia. Both were early users of MICS. I believe ScotiaBank was Beta! -teD In God we Trust! All others bring

Re: z/OS and OS/390 education

2005-09-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
No. OTOH, I consider boilerplate course, documentation, job and product announcements to be useful, provided that they adhere to whatever ground rules Big D sets. Had the announcement in question been pre-approved and labelled as such, I would have considered it perfectly appropriate. ... I really

IBMisms (was Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3)

2005-09-25 Thread Leonard Woren
I was going to ask if someone could post the complete list, to avoid 50 followups with 1 each. Then I decided to try Google... but what to search on? My first try worked: Itty Bitty Machine -- http://www.dvorak.org/blog/columns/7-20-04.html That search also turned up this:

Re: IPCS WHERE and OUTTRAP

2005-09-25 Thread Robert Wright
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz wrote on 09/22/2005 01:58:42 PM: If WHERE uses TPUT directly then you can still capture the output if you run under Session Manager. You'll need a special logon proc. Apologies for not being clearer in my previous response. I should not have used level and service

Re: Another z9 question

2005-09-25 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Steve Comstock wrote: Craddock, Chris wrote: Will the new instructions, and modifications to existing instructions, introduced with the z9 series be retrofitted to the earlier z800, z890, z900 and / or z990 series? Almost certainly not. CC So at some point we'll have another ALS

Re: Another z9 question

2005-09-25 Thread Chuck Arney
But where is Chris being a junky from? Surly he is not in Houston! Chuck Arney illustro Systems International, LLC http://www.illustro.com Access 3270 data from anywhere with z/XML-Host Access 3270 apps from the web with z/Web-Host Access CMS minidisks from OS/390 or VSE with CMSACCess Voice:

Re: Command to query system info

2005-09-25 Thread Greg Dyck
There is also the STIDP hardware instruction. It requires authorization as it is a privileged instruction. Better check the current POPs. STIDP was changed to allow it to report X'00' as the model on current processors because of upgrade/downgrade on demand and many processors now do. STSI

Re: Another z9 question

2005-09-25 Thread Ray Mullins
No, he is. He is in far west Houston. He e-mailed me last night saying that they had a few small trees down but nothing major. -- M. Ray Mullins Roseville, CA, USA http://www.catherdersoftware.com/ http://www.mrmullins.big-bear-city.ca.us/ http://www.the-bus-stops-here.org/

Re: Chinese character code table

2005-09-25 Thread Ray Mullins
Same difference. Code pages are independent of platform. A zSeries, iSeries, pSeries or xSeries can easily translate one code page to another, no matter what the operating system. That link is _the_ IBM reference page for code pages. Later, Ray -- M. Ray Mullins Roseville, CA, USA

Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3

2005-09-25 Thread Graeme Gibson
Hmm, IBM: I liked the cartoon that appeared in, I think an SFO or LA paper quite some years back now, when some representatives of, IIRC, Hitachi, were stung by the FBI for possession of MVS source material. The single panel showed a very solidly built Japanese salaryman bowed down by a

Re: Suppress carriage-control characters in SYSOUT?

2005-09-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) said: Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 16:39:38 -0300 In [log in to unmask], on 09/23/2005 at 03:43 PM, Kirk Talman [log in to unmask] said: Used to be any file can be placed in SYSOUT=B and shipped anywhere as a binary image. There's

Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3

2005-09-25 Thread Ed Gould
On Sep 25, 2005, at 2:10 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 09/23/2005 at 07:08 AM, Chase, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Interesting I remember it as System Productivity Facility, to which one could add the optional PDF (Program Development Facility) we now

Re: Is a Hurricane about to hit IBM ?

2005-09-25 Thread Blaicher, Chris
Anton, No matter how you got to the article, you were pretty lax in checking the content. I can go to the most widely read book in the world, and quote passages where the world is declared flat, but that does not make it so, or relevant to today's knowledge. I also find your tone in the note

Re: Is a Hurricane about to hit IBM ?

2005-09-25 Thread Gibney, David Allen,Jr
Obviously, you folks don't follow SAG-L, where we've learned to ignore most of Anton's flame bait :) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blaicher, Chris Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2005 7:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: another z9 question (retrofitted instructions)

2005-09-25 Thread john gilmore
Chris Craddock and Ed Jaffe have guessed that there will be no retrofitting of the new z9 instructions, and they may well be right, but it is important to remember that IBM will consult its own convenience in deciding what to do. (It has retrofitted other such instruction sets and could do so

Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-25 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
Marian Gasparovic wrote: Of course I meant support for Linux, not for IBM sw. On 9/25/05, Marian Gasparovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linux may be free, but try and get IBM to support their software on the free Linux. IBM's software lists SUSE, United Linux, or RH as requirments, all of

Re: Article in Information week: Mainframe Programmers Wanted

2005-09-25 Thread A. Harry Williams
On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 06:36:41 -0500 Huckert, James said: I have to agree with bill on some points but there are exceptions. I am 28 and I have been a mainframe operator for about 5 years now and I am looking to get into system programming. I was raised with a strong work ethic and I do all I can

Re: Is a Hurricane about to hit IBM ?

2005-09-25 Thread Blaicher, Chris
David, Thanks for the info. I will put his address in my junk mail list. Most on this list are hard working people. Some with strong opinions, but basically all are for the betterment of all on the list. Chris -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: another z9 question (retrofitted instructions)

2005-09-25 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
john gilmore wrote: Chris Craddock and Ed Jaffe have guessed that there will be no retrofitting of the new z9 instructions, and they may well be right, but it is important to remember that IBM will consult its own convenience in deciding what to do. (It has retrofitted other such

Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-25 Thread Ed Gould
On Sep 25, 2005, at 9:32 PM, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: -SNIP Yes, I know, but my point was that Linux was not free if you want to run IBM products on it and get support for the IBM products. You can download the required kernel mods and

Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-25 Thread Timothy Sipples
I'm going to quote a couple different people for some comments... Linux may be free, but try and get IBM to support their software on the free Linux. IBM's software lists SUSE, United Linux, or RH as requirments, all of these charge you per ILF for the right to run their free software on your

Re: another z9 question (retrofitted instructions)

2005-09-25 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note John Gilmore said: Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 02:18:15 + Meanwhile, I have found the new FLOGR instruction---It finds the leftmost instance of a '1'b bit in a register doubleword---very convenient indeed for scanning bit tables; and I have elected to use it when

Re: Chinese character code table

2005-09-25 Thread Hu Jun
I don't remember the URL now. But I downloaded the simplied Chinese character code table from IBM website about 2 years ago. If you want it, I can send to you offline. Hu Jun Does anyone know where can I find the IBM Z/OS Chinese character code table? Thanks in advance for all your helps.

Re: WEBSPHERE: install on Z/OS USS or Z/OS LINUX ?

2005-09-25 Thread Don Poitras
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: On Sep 25, 2005, at 9:32 PM, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: -SNIP Yes, I know, but my point was that Linux was not free if you want to run IBM products on it and get support for the IBM products. You

Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3

2005-09-25 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 08:44 -0400 on 09/22/2005, Chris Hoelscher wrote about Re: HASP/ASP JES/JES2/JES3: when the TV show The Man From U.N.C.L.E. first came out (1964?) - UNCLE did not stand for anything (it may have been inteded to be an acronym, but no specific words had been assigned)- only after public

Re: another z9 question (retrofitted instructions)

2005-09-25 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
Paul Gilmartin wrote: In a recent note John Gilmore said: Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 02:18:15 + Meanwhile, I have found the new FLOGR instruction---It finds the leftmost instance of a '1'b bit in a register doubleword---very convenient indeed for scanning bit tables; and I have

Re: Some questions about cross memory services

2005-09-25 Thread Craddock, Chris
1. Assuming I want to connect only selected address spaces to the service address space (via non-system LX): a. to execute the ATSET and ETCON macros in the user's address space (assuming the user runs in problem state) I will have to create an additional PC routine to