Re: SMPE DDDEF DSNTYPE Query

2005-10-01 Thread ibm-main
From: "Robert A. Rosenberg" > In reviewing the DDDEFs for a newly created set of Zones, I noticed > that there was a DSNTYPE parm that has LIBRARY (ie: PDSE) defined for > some of them. What is the significance for SMPE of having this set. > IOW: Will I get into trouble if I have DDDEFs that are P

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 29 Sep 2005 to 30 Sep 2005 (#2005-273)

2005-10-01 Thread Timothy Sipples
Ed Gould writes: >Yes but here IBM is laying thousands off and then you want "others" to >train people so IBM can take advantage of the training and hire them >so they can outsource even more companies/ There is something wrong in >this picture, no? So what do you suggest? What do you YOU plan t

Re: Squeezing defined capacity

2005-10-01 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I've always thought that the restrictions IBM puts on sites and the hoops you have to go through to save money really suck. I've never had to do any of that, as our last 2 machines were an MP2003 and our current MP3000, and the pricing IBM gives you is pretty good without going through all of

Re: Squeezing defined capacity

2005-10-01 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 10/1/2005 9:33:16 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: through all of the gyrations. I've sat through several sessions explaining how to save money at Share and MCMG. Every time I sit through a session, my overriding thought is WHY? Why not just cut

Re: Squeezing defined capacity

2005-10-01 Thread Robert Justice
Actually it's not really IBM that's the majority of the problem price-wise, I could name a few vendors that decided to just recently quadruple their price. Once we made it clear we'd look at alternatives, and brought them in-house for a trial, all of a sudden, the "old" vendor "magically" decide

Re: IBM-MAIN Digest - 29 Sep 2005 to 30 Sep 2005 (#2005-273)

2005-10-01 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 10/1/2005 7:39:46 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If no one is joining up the association inevitably folds. And it's all local, on the local members' shoulders. Why are we even debating this? Go sign up some new members! >> Again, horse has lef

Re: Squeezing defined capacity

2005-10-01 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 10/1/2005 10:02:29 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually it's not really IBM that's the majority of the problem price-wise, >> Other vendors may be in on the conspiracy, but IBM is the ring leader. Same old FUD and chaotic accounting spun off

Re: OT The Original MF?

2005-10-01 Thread Stephen M. Wiegand
At 09:47 AM 09/30/2005, you wrote: Ed, I remember these from highschool, now I do feel old. LOL. Thanks, Fletch Hmmph, old! These weren't even invented yet when I graduated from high school. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beha

Re: Are there any mainframe sites out there that don't use JCLCHECK/JCLPREP or equivalent?

2005-10-01 Thread Stephen M. Wiegand
At 03:39 PM 09/30/2005, you wrote: Am I the only one who gets a lot of weird characters trying to read the two supposed EXEC's at that link? Both valJCL.txt and jproc.txt (links on that page) appear not to be EXEC source at all. Even uploaded in binary, they do not appear to be EBCDIC, nor do t

Re: Squeezing defined capacity

2005-10-01 Thread Bruno Sugliani
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 15:03:40 +1000, ibm-main <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >The "perfect solution" Gil mentions, is surely the only common-sense >design - *from day 1*. >I too have a customer that moves MSUs around - although with less >regularity; end of month/quarter, that sort of thing. > >Shane ..

Re: Are there any mainframe sites out there that don't use JCLCHECK/JCLPREP or equivalent?

2005-10-01 Thread Kenny Fogarty
I worked at an IBM development lab for seven years, and we never had anything like JCLCHECK/JCLPREP. Before then, I think I came across JCLCHECK once, when I worked in Germany. Most of the JCL I write is pretty generic anyway, and relies mostly on the usual IBM utilities being present. That way, I

Re: Squeezing defined capacity

2005-10-01 Thread Gil Peleg
Bruno, I heard about this from a colleague. Question is how will IBM regard this in terms of licensing charges? Another thing is im not totally convinced that this will not hurt performance. Not sure PR/SM was designed to handle such a workload -- 100%cpu 24/7... Gil. On 10/1/05, Bruno Suglian

Re: SMPE DDDEF DSNTYPE Query

2005-10-01 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 18:35 +1000 on 10/01/2005, ibm-main wrote about Re: SMPE DDDEF DSNTYPE Query: From: "Robert A. Rosenberg" In reviewing the DDDEFs for a newly created set of Zones, I noticed that there was a DSNTYPE parm that has LIBRARY (ie: PDSE) defined for some of them. What is the significance for

Re: Defining DASD-Only MVS Logging Streams

2005-10-01 Thread Doug Fuerst
Try GC34-6224, Install Manual for TS 2.3 Chapter 24, section on defining DASD only streams. At 01:41 AM 10/1/2005, you wrote: I am in the process of migrating come CICS/ESA 4.1 regions to CICS/TS 2.3 and have run into a GOTCHA. CICS/TS 2.3 does not support CICS Controlled Journals but uses MV

(fwd) Re: Plan Now (Budget) for 2006 zSeries/z9 Summer Interns at Your Company/Gov't

2005-10-01 Thread Clark Morris
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:57:57 -0500, in bit.listserv.ibm-main "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Preceding postings snipped >> > >At our installation, this is true of even on the "dark side" as well. >Everybody here is expected to know everything, when needed. We >__almost__ got some trai

Old COBOL and 64-bit ???

2005-10-01 Thread Bill Klein
Exactly what "conversion" are you doing? (LE? COBOL? z/OS? hardware? other?) If the "conversion" is for COBOL, then there really is almost NO conversion necessary (depending on your exact environment). See: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IGY3MG30/3.2.2 You might a

Re: SMPE DDDEF DSNTYPE Query

2005-10-01 Thread ibm-main
From: "Robert A. Rosenberg" > In changing the DSNs in the DDDEFs, I noticed the DSNTYPE field > (which was already filled in for a few LOADLIB datasets which were > shipped as PDSEs not PDSs) and was wondering. I assume that this > field IS important for HFS files. Nope - no-on cares about HFS

Re: (fwd) Re: Plan Now (Budget) for 2006 zSeries/z9 Summer Interns at Your Company/Gov't

2005-10-01 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clark Morris > Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2005 2:28 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: (fwd) Re: Plan Now (Budget) for 2006 zSeries/z9 > Summer Interns at Your Company/Gov't > > Unf

Re: OT The Original MF?

2005-10-01 Thread Ed Gould
On Oct 1, 2005, at 10:24 AM, Stephen M. Wiegand wrote: At 09:47 AM 09/30/2005, you wrote: Ed, I remember these from highschool, now I do feel old. LOL. Thanks, Fletch Hmmph, old! These weren't even invented yet when I graduated from high school. Oops sorry about that. (I am 57 now) a

Re: Is a Hurricane about to hit IBM ?

2005-10-01 Thread AntonMvs2005
Hi, What I saw this week on this list is that most of us agrees with our view of the IBM market place "On Earth". Needless to say , that is why I phrased the posting with "Is a Hurricane about to hit IBM" and I ended the posting with the question : "Why does the investors not see what I am seei

Re: IMBED in R8

2005-10-01 Thread R.S.
Skip Robinson wrote: Maybe I'm overly jittery, but I'm actually more concerned about user catalogs for CICS regions. These catalogs are shared among all members of a sysplex. If we have to take down all regions to rebuild catalogs, that is effectively a sysplex-wide outage whether or not we IPL.

Re: Is a Hurricane about to hit IBM ?

2005-10-01 Thread Edward E. Jaffe
AntonMvs2005 wrote: "Why does the investors not see what I am seeing ?" [snip] Six month a 'go, I think it's 6 to 12 months, they tried to target the medical sector. At the same time "W" also suddenly announced that he feels the FEDS need to put more money into the IS departments of the Me

Re: Are there any mainframe sites out there that don't use JCLCHECK/JCLPREP or equivalent?

2005-10-01 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 09/30/2005 at 01:23 PM, Steve Grimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > This highly convenient program calls MVS's JCL converter > to report JCL errors in a jobstream on your TSO tube. It is the > same program which checks the errors when you run a real jobstream > wit

Re: Squeezing defined capacity

2005-10-01 Thread ibm-main
From: "Gil Peleg" > Question is how will IBM regard this in terms of licensing charges? Depends on what was signed I guess - I don't get involved at that level. One would have to think it outside the spirit of the license - especially if the CF LPAR was being actively used. > Another thing is im

Re: SMPE DDDEF DSNTYPE Query

2005-10-01 Thread Paul Gilmartin
In a recent note, ibm-main said: > Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 05:53:34 +1000 > > From: "Robert A. Rosenberg" > > > In changing the DSNs in the DDDEFs, I noticed the DSNTYPE field > > (which was already filled in for a few LOADLIB datasets which were > > shipped as PDSEs not PDSs) and was wond

Re: Are there any mainframe sites out there that don't use JCLCHECK/JCLPREP or equivalent?

2005-10-01 Thread Phil Smith III
I can't resist: Yes, all of those who aren't running MVS, VSE, or any of their precursors or descendants... ...phsiii (Noting once again that "mainframe" and "MVS" are NOT synonyms) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive