Re: IBM-MAIN's 20th Birthday

2006-02-26 Thread Gibney, Dave
Well, I think I'm one of the longest lurkers, I was subscribed in the BITNET days. I just rarely get to post because all of you real guru's answer the questions before I see them. Kidding aside, IBM-MAIN is one of the best resources around, let's do another 20 or so years...

Re: Allocation request for a DB2 dump wants more than a MOD-3

2006-02-26 Thread John (IBM-MAIN)
-- snip -- When DB2 wants to dump, specifically where do I get to specify the primary and secondary space allocations for that dump? This part is well documented. Issue: DD ADD,SMS=(DATA=dataclas,STOR=storclas,MGMT=mgmtclas) to set the SMS classes that control dump data set size, placement,

Re: Allocation request for a DB2 dump wants more than a MOD-3

2006-02-26 Thread ibm-main
From: John (IBM-MAIN) If you really want to optimise Dump processing, take a look at using Extented format SMS Datasets with striping (and maybe even compression). Has anyone (else) found they need to manage dump performance with e.g. DB2 ???. We had a dump storm a while back - over 30 DB2

Re: Allocation request for a DB2 dump wants more than a MOD-3

2006-02-26 Thread Lizette Koehler
The way I did it was to use a naming convention for the SVC Dump name in the dynamic allocation for dump. No other data set was to use this naming convention which was SVCD.taskid.sysid.date.sequential#. Then I had a clist that was run as a batch job to collect some basic doc from the dump and

Re: Data Set Name Hiding

2006-02-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/23/2006 at 08:56 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: That may come across as arrogant on my part. But I've been burned too many times by smart programmer who borrow code from me, without asking, then enter problem reports against it when the code doesn't do

Re: IBM Supported method to empty PDS in Batch

2006-02-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/23/2006 at 02:55 PM, Hal Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: No. It means that the default behavior of MOD is changed. It means the PDS pointed to by SYSUT2 will contain only members added via the sequential input stream. For a new PDS. Not for an existing PDS that

Re: Hercules 3.04 announcement

2006-02-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/24/2006 at 11:01 AM, Jay Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: New 2305 CKD disk emulation (Jay Maynard) Both models? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't

Re: MVCY

2006-02-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/24/2006 at 04:04 PM, Eric Bielefeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm curious! Do you actually remember all this stuff, or do you still have the manuals and look it up? I actually remember[1] this stuff. Sometimes I'm unsure and check the manual. In some cases, alas, I

Re: PROTECTION EXCEPTION 0C4 - Job Doesn't Work When Dataset Used

2006-02-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/23/2006 at 03:52 PM, Rugen, Len [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: - But when allocated as a -dataset, it is somehow (?) allocated in virtual memory. Unless there's an enhancement to VIO that I don't know about, SAM doesn't directly use the VIO pages; it runs a simulated

Re: Regular expression to define valid MVS dataset

2006-02-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/24/2006 at 01:42 AM, Steve Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As Gilmartin says, it's trivially easy to define the DSN naming conventions as an RE, Restricting the length to 44 is the hard part. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position;

Re: Data Set Name Hiding

2006-02-26 Thread Thomas Berg
I must say that I don't understand You both. If You don't want to support the code then don't. Are You too afraid to say that to the whiners ? ;-) I have always seen source hiding in circumstances like this as silly and sneaky. I never do this. Thomas Berg == Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)

Re: SYST

2006-02-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/25/2006 at 12:38 PM, McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: A STARTED TASK which is not a SYSTEM TASK will always run, at least initially, in key 8. Have they finally killed V=R? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: OK... dumb SDSF question

2006-02-26 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/24/2006 at 09:07 AM, Rugen, Len [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In IOF, I can edit a job on the output queue to get the JCL that was submitted and resubmit it even making minor changes. Is there an equivalent function in SDSF? SJ? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz,

Esoterics set in SMS we are very quick to make HCD changes.

2006-02-26 Thread John Benik
Now that I am at a new company and we have finally insourced our production system I have a question on how we set esoterics. I was always under the impression that we could use SMS and set the esoterics. Here is an example of what's currently in the Dataclass ACS routines. FILTLIST TAPE90

discrete profiles for tape protection.

2006-02-26 Thread John Benik
We have recently begun a tapecopy process from IBM VTS's to STK VSM's. We have run into a few files that on the IBM side exceeded the max vol count for discrete profiles, but when trying to copy them to STK there is an issue and the discrete profile only allows them to go 42 volumes. On the IBM

Re: discrete profiles for tape protection.

2006-02-26 Thread Russell Witt
Since the 42-volume limit for a discrete tape dataset profile, I doubt that the tape management system could over-ride this. You may have been given some special usermod to RACF to disable the abend that occurs when the 42-volume limit is reached, and simply allow more volumes to be created. But

Re: OK... dumb SDSF question

2006-02-26 Thread Mike Liberatore
yes it does. From: Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun Feb 26 09:27:21 CST 2006 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OK... dumb SDSF question In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/24/2006 at 09:07 AM, Rugen, Len [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: In IOF, I can edit a job on the output queue to

Adabas db 3380 - 3390

2006-02-26 Thread R.S.
The task: move existing Adabas datasets from 3380 volumes to 3390's. Total DB size is approx. 0.4 TB, planned outage window is whole weekend, so there's a lot of time. I was told it requires two jobs: backup and restore. However I'd like to RTFM. What manual should I start ? Any gotchas ? --

Re: Adabas db 3380 - 3390

2006-02-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
from 3380 volumes to 3390's Wow! I guess Europe is really behind! I saw my last 3380 over 15 years ago. From what I remember: Back it up. Restore it. Just as you posted. - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in!

Re: Adabas db 3380 - 3390

2006-02-26 Thread Bob Shannon
Wow! I guess Europe is really behind! I saw my last 3380 over 15 years ago. Some shops choose to emulate 3380s on modern Dasd to avoid converting geometry-sensitive data. At my previous job we had a few emulated-3380s that contained BDAM files Bob Shannon Rocket Software

Re: Esoterics set in SMS we are very quick to make HCD changes.

2006-02-26 Thread R.S.
John Benik wrote: Now that I am at a new company and we have finally insourced our production system I have a question on how we set esoterics. I was always under the impression that we could use SMS and set the esoterics. Here is an example of what's currently in the Dataclass ACS routines.

Re: Share DASD and CA-MII

2006-02-26 Thread Bruce Black
You can always READ without any risk of corrupting data, so if you know that data is being update only from say ONLY one sysplex, the risk of corruption should be minimal. Just time when you read the data to ensure you get the 'latest' version. There is an exposure even if you only do updates

Re: Share DASD and CA-MII

2006-02-26 Thread Ted MacNEIL
In the VTOC, a DSCB may be rewritten to update the last reference date even for a dataset opened only for INPUT. I have firmly believed, for over 15 years, if you are sharing DASD you need GRS. If you are sharing across PLEX's, you need MIM (not MII anymore). Period. End of statement. Many

Re: Regular expression to define valid MVS dataset

2006-02-26 Thread Steve Flynn
On 26/02/06, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 02/24/2006 at 01:42 AM, Steve Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: As Gilmartin says, it's trivially easy to define the DSN naming conventions as an RE, Restricting the length to 44 is the hard part. I do

Re: Data Set Name Hiding

2006-02-26 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas Berg Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 11:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Data Set Name Hiding I must say that I don't understand You both. If You don't want to

Re: Hercules 3.04 announcement

2006-02-26 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought Iceberg was the MSS? ref: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006c.html#46 Hercules 3.04 announcement mss/3850 provided simulated 3330s (icebergs) staged from tape cartridges. originally had real 3330 drives for staging the simulated 3330 drives. mss/3850 had two

Re: Esoterics set in SMS we are very quick to make HCD changes.

2006-02-26 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Benik Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 11:59 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Esoterics set in SMS we are very quick to make HCD changes. Now that I am at a new company and we

Re: Hercules 3.04 announcement

2006-02-26 Thread Anne Lynn Wheeler
Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote: later during the ADSTAR period in san jose ... there was the C-STAR project which was working on a new disk controller that was to suppose to provide equivalent function to the STK (iceberg/9200, different project, different vendor, same name) controller that had

Code borrowing (was RE: Data Set Name Hiding)

2006-02-26 Thread tony babonas
I wish I had all you guys' problems. We have no one here who understands basic JCL, let alone any compiled or interpreted language. I'd gladly giv e away everything I have developed over the years, even to the point of allocating a PDS(E) for the borrower, populating it, showing them

Re: Code borrowing (was RE: Data Set Name Hiding)

2006-02-26 Thread Paul Hanrahan
I'm getting out of the business if I can. Though I did love it. Cole's essay on programming was terrific. - Paul Hanrahan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tony babonas Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 8:05 PM To:

Re: Share DASD and CA-MII

2006-02-26 Thread Eric N. Bielefeld
We have shared dasd between our Prod Test Lpars ever since we had Lpars over 10 years ago. I have never seen a problem. Now, most of the stuff that is shared is load libraries that are shared with the Test Lpar, rather than keeping 2 copies. All production data is only online normally on

Re: Share DASD and CA-MII

2006-02-26 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 26, 2006, at 8:21 PM, Eric N. Bielefeld wrote: We have shared dasd between our Prod Test Lpars ever since we had Lpars over 10 years ago. I have never seen a problem. Now, most of the stuff that is shared is load libraries that are shared with the Test Lpar, rather than keeping 2

答复: Re: Share DASD and CA-MII

2006-02-26 Thread Yadong Wu
Thanks all, conclusions: To transfer file from one SYSPLEX to another SYSPLEX, we can use Flashcopy or Shadowimage, so different SYSPLEX read/update different volumes. Yes, it is safe, but we have to change our TWS application procedures to do Flashcopy. We must buy CA-MIM, or use GRS to

Re: discrete profiles for tape protection.

2006-02-26 Thread Michael W. Moss
Hi, The DFSMSrmm observation I feel might be worth considering, as per the z/OS V1R7.0 DFSMSrmm Implementation and Customization Guide (dgt2c840) manual. Section 11.9.1 Recommendations for Using RACF Tape Profile Processing states: 1. The maximum number of entries for data sets that a TVTOC can