Re: Migration from z/800-0B1 to z9BC-703

2007-06-25 Thread Gibney, Dave
Ours was side by side and both HMCs together long enough to "copy" profiles. It does seem to perform quite a bit better. I've made remarks about "rehosing" in the past. I want to say that Phoenix was very reasonable in the requested upgrade cost. Syncsort also. Some others are a different matter.

Re: Migration from z/800-0B1 to z9BC-703

2007-06-25 Thread Edward Jaffe
Dave Kopischke wrote: When we upgraded to the z9 from a z800, the biggest shock was HSA. 1.4 Gig for HSA and no warning it would be that bad ??? I read about its impact, but never imagined it would be so much. Wiped out a whole LPAR I had planned. That was indeed a shock. But, not as big th

Re: VTS Questions

2007-06-25 Thread Russell Witt
Mark, Okay, a couple of things to explain what is happening and how to correct them. First, the version of the CA-1 supplied CBRUXENT is quite old. The original version we shipped would allow a foreign tape (not defined to CA-1) to be entered and accepted into PRIVATE status. Please remember, thi

Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities

2007-06-25 Thread Doc Farmer
Okay, I'll give it a shot: 1) You have a critical APAR installation which requires management approval to apply it on production. The Ops Manager is in Aruba, the CIO is in a coma, and your other tech support staff are at a beer bust. What do you do? A) Ensure you've got full

Re: 3390-27 PERFORMANCE

2007-06-25 Thread John S. Giltner, Jr.
On some devices the physical drives are not smaller, a -27 is about 25GB. Our DS8100 has 143GB and 300GB drives. The last 2105 we had used 36GB and 72 GB drives. Kenneth E Tomiak wrote: You do realize a 3390-27 is not just a bigger physical 3390 from the days of old where big round platters

Re: Relationship of TBDISPL to row displayed

2007-06-25 Thread Scott Guynes
I just signed up for this listserv, but I don't want to see every email that comes across. Would you know how I can stop receiving the emails? TIA -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth E Tomiak Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007

Re: Relationship of TBDISPL to row displayed

2007-06-25 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
Posting the whole program would not be right. But enough of the area having a problem is required. There are scores of programs in source format available for you to look at, in manuals and the www.cbttape.org website, to compare your logic with programs that work. If you were hoping blind advic

Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program?

2007-06-25 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
My first assumption is that you really do not want to start adding steps to every job in order to do this. But just in case you do, the 100 character PARM limit is not the big deal people are making of it. I doubt the majority of people who code JCL even know how to continue a value beyond one

Re: 3390-27 PERFORMANCE

2007-06-25 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
You do realize a 3390-27 is not just a bigger physical 3390 from the days of old where big round platters were stuck on a spindle, right? That 3390-27 is a software emulated disk spread over a bunch of smaller physical drives. So the PAV is important IF you will be trying to do many concurrent I

Re: Unable to compile Java - iconv_init problem

2007-06-25 Thread Nagesh
hmmm...I see. Thanks, Mark. I think, I am working on the most fragile/brittle system ! I had the .profile set up with the STEPLIB variable that you mentioned earlier. No changes since then. And, guess what ? The same problem again !! This system seems to have its own mind - and a highly idiosy

Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame)

2007-06-25 Thread Ed Gould
On Jun 25, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Robert Pelletier wrote: Hi All. I need to put together a document that IBM is taking the mainframe seriously and is actively trying to get it taught in our schools. Would anyone have any good articles available for my use? Thanks all. Bob, This is a put on right?,

Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities

2007-06-25 Thread Kenneth E Tomiak
If you do not know how to accomplish this task then your company is not suited to the task and should decline the offer. There are better ways to test the abilities of staff than cuasing damage of any kind. >On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:29:44 -0500, Eric Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >HI, all > >Ou

Re: CA-Allocate / SMS

2007-06-25 Thread Scott
May I ask why you are converting off of CA-Allocate? How did you like it when you were using it? We are going to be trialing the product and may eventually purchase it. They have a quota feature that may be useful with CA-Vantage to give us some information. This product may also be a repla

Re: SV: how to list LE options

2007-06-25 Thread Ed Gould
On Jun 25, 2007, at 7:50 AM, Chase, John wrote: --SNIP- The consultants were using our resources to compile programs for the consultants essentially stealing resources from our company. The two steps we made to stop the process was

Re: Synchronize Time Between Mainframe and Servers?

2007-06-25 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Mon, 21 May 2007 13:08:55 -0500, Dave Kopischke wrote: >Also, if you lose the timer, you can recover and run without it. It takes a few >seconds for error recovery and to present the option on the console. By this >time, most of our communication sessions time out, so we've got some work to >d

Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities

2007-06-25 Thread Arthur T.
On 25 Jun 2007 07:23:21 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main (Message-ID:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charokee Sun) wrote: Our company recently had been given a task by our client to test the responsiveness and capabilities of their systems programmer in their test environment. Our task

VTS Questions

2007-06-25 Thread Mark Steely
We are z/OS V1R7. We have two systems..we are not sysplex. We have CA-1 TMS. We have 2 VTS the VTS are connected to both systems. When I added logical volumes to one of the boxes - half of the request got processed on one system and the other half got processed on the other system. When I displ

IRD - CSSPQ

2007-06-25 Thread Nick Gale
Hi Has anyone implemented CSSPQ on their machines? The implementation looks fairly straightfoward and seems to be a no-brainer. Anyone have any experiences to share on this? Thanks Nick -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities

2007-06-25 Thread Ken Porowski
Digging a little further ... Sunflower Consulting and Services Co., Ltd. is a 100% Canadian owned Company operates in China. We specialize in IBM mainframe system and application services and have been providing high quality services to customers in China. -Original Message- From: IBM M

Re: IBM launches MySpace for mainframes

2007-06-25 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/25/2007 2:15:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe the diagnosis is rectocephaly. Leave it to IBM to try to create IBMMain. I expect Destinationz to go the way of search390. >> Lets see, shun your back on us for 20 years, drop HESC, dr

Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities

2007-06-25 Thread Steve Comstock
David Andrews wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 15:06 -0400, Doug Fuerst wrote: What, pray tell, is the point of this exercise? Maybe the IS director is trying to justify another, more senior position. The existing sysprog is the president's PFCSK son, a whiz at windows - but not all that great

Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame)

2007-06-25 Thread Steve Comstock
Robert Pelletier wrote: Hi. Yes they are please keep your fingers crossed out there. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. We will. And if it happens, we can bring your applications staff up to date quickly: one day - for everyone, Introducti

Re: How to get a list of datasets recalled by HSM?

2007-06-25 Thread Hoesly, Bret
We generate reports with that information from a daily MXG PDB file. We also have Mainstar's Reporter/Manager which will do the same as well. HTH, Bret Hoesly -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Nielsen Sent: Monday, June 25

Re: How to get a list of datasets recalled by HSM?

2007-06-25 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Check your HSMACT.*.MIG logs for the following: ARC0303I DATA SET fully.qaulified.data.set.name WILL BE RECALLED or scan your system logs for ARC0303I msgs Mainstar offers the HSM Report Manager which will also provide that information. It is what I use to minimize ML2 recall activity.

How to get a list of datasets recalled by HSM?

2007-06-25 Thread Brian Nielsen
How can I generate a list of the datasets that HSM (1.7) recalls? I'm trying to identify the culprits that are causing tape take-aways during nightly primary space management processing. Once the culprits are identified I can update their management class as appropriate. Brian --

Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities

2007-06-25 Thread David Andrews
On Mon, 2007-06-25 at 15:06 -0400, Doug Fuerst wrote: > What, pray tell, is the point of this exercise? Maybe the IS director is trying to justify another, more senior position. The existing sysprog is the president's PFCSK son, a whiz at windows - but not all that great a S390 gunslinger. Or ma

Re: HR policy

2007-06-25 Thread Ed Gould
On Jun 25, 2007, at 9:28 AM, Rick Fochtman wrote: - There are also companys that will give you all the education you ask for, because the rest of the compensation package is so shamefully poor. A catalog-shopping firm I know of comes to mind. It w

Re: Finding the last IPL time

2007-06-25 Thread Mark Zelden
As mentioned, my IPLINFO exec displays it - using those fields from the SMCA. They have been there *a long time*. But there is also a field in the IPA - IPAICTOD - defined as when system initialization ended. It is slightly before the time in the SMCA and is GMT, not local. IPAICTOD also ma

Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities

2007-06-25 Thread Doug Fuerst
LOL, I like that. One would think that maybe screwing up an SMP zone and having them resolve it, or botch and install and have them fix it would be a better test these days. At 03:15 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote: Management is history buffs, this is nearest thing they can get to a gladiatorial comb

Re: IGD17272I sms extended dataset allocate

2007-06-25 Thread O'Brien, David W. (NIH/CIT) [C]
Dave, What model 3390 are you using? A mod-3 only has 3339 cyls, while you are = using CYLINDERS(3999 005) - Suggest you try a smaller Primary. For multi-volume files I often used cyls(300 200) which gave me an entire volume in 16 extents if it was empty and the freedom to allocate to other par

Re: IBM launches MySpace for mainframes

2007-06-25 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/25/2007 2:15:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >I believe the diagnosis is rectocephaly. I always thought it was CAIS (Cranial-Anal Insertion Syndrome). Bill Fairchild Plainfield, IL ** See what's free a

Re: Finding the last IPL time

2007-06-25 Thread David Cole
Thanks Rob, That's EXACTLY what I was looking for. Dave Cole At 6/25/2007 02:51 PM, you wrote: SMCAITME and SMCAIDTE in the SMCA (IEESMCA is the mapping macro - SYS1.MACLIB) SMCA pointed to by CVTSMCA Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROT

Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame)

2007-06-25 Thread Robert Pelletier
Hi. Yes they are please keep your fingers crossed out there. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct. -Original Message- From: Steve Comstock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 3:21 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re:

Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame)

2007-06-25 Thread Robert Pelletier
Thanks Jon. Subject: Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame) Here is some info from Marist College for a program that is being developed in conjunction with IBM and several other companies, us included. We have had one of our people in the first group taking t

Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame)

2007-06-25 Thread Steve Comstock
Robert Pelletier wrote: Hi All. I need to put together a document that IBM is taking the mainframe seriously and is actively trying to get it taught in our schools. Would anyone have any good articles available for my use? Thanks all. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Lo

Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame)

2007-06-25 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
Here is some info from Marist College for a program that is being developed in conjunction with IBM and several other companies, us included. We have had one of our people in the first group taking this set of courses and he stated that it was very intense. The online courses for z are being taught

Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities

2007-06-25 Thread Mohammad Khan
Management is history buffs, this is nearest thing they can get to a gladiatorial combat. They are looking forward to some good action and a few rolling heads ! Hail to the Caesar ! On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:06:57 -0400, Doug Fuerst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >What, pray tell, is the point of t

Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities

2007-06-25 Thread Mark H. Young
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 15:06:57 -0400, Doug Fuerst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >What, pray tell, is the point of this exercise? > >At 02:30 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote: >>On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:29:44 -0500, Eric Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>wrote: >> >> >HI, all >> > >> >Our company recently had been given

Re: IGD17272I sms extended dataset allocate

2007-06-25 Thread Larre Shiller
Dave - What a coincidence--just last week I opened an ETR for what I suspect may be the exact same issue, except I'm using 3390-9's instead of -3's. After some initial investigation, the SMS L2 technician thinks that OA20446 may resolve the issue, but he needs to confirm that with Development.

Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities

2007-06-25 Thread Doug Fuerst
What, pray tell, is the point of this exercise? At 02:30 PM 6/25/2007, you wrote: On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:29:44 -0500, Eric Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >HI, all > >Our company recently had been given a task by our client to test the >responsiveness and capabilities of their systems programmer

Re: Finding the last IPL time

2007-06-25 Thread Robert Wright
Dave Cole wrote on 2007-06-25 14:45:28: > Is there a way (an API or a cblock field) by which a program an find > out the local time of the last IPL? > Check out IHAIPA in MACLIB. Field IPAICTOD may give you what you want. It's the value that you'll see as "IPL time" when you use IPCS subcommand

Re: IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame)

2007-06-25 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 14:41:12 -0400, Robert Pelletier wrote: >Hi All. I need to put together a document that IBM is taking the >mainframe seriously and is actively trying to get it taught in our >schools. Would anyone have any good articles available for my use? >Thanks all. > There was a post or

Re: Finding the last IPL time

2007-06-25 Thread Farley, Peter x23353
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of David Cole > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 2:45 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Finding the last IPL time > > Hi All, > > Is there a way (an API or a cblock field) by which a program

Re: Finding the last IPL time

2007-06-25 Thread Michael Wickman
Mark Zelden has a rexx routine called IPLINFO that provides this as well. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Cole Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 1:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: [IBM-MAIN] Finding the last IPL

Re: Finding the last IPL time

2007-06-25 Thread Rob Scott
SMCAITME and SMCAIDTE in the SMCA (IEESMCA is the mapping macro - SYS1.MACLIB) SMCA pointed to by CVTSMCA Rob Scott Rocket Software, Inc 275 Grove Street Newton, MA 02466 617-614-2305 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rs.com/portfolio/mxi_g2 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion

IGD17272I sms extended dataset allocate

2007-06-25 Thread Dave Guthrie
I am getting the IDG17272I message when attempting to a primary allocation using IDCAMS of more than one 3390 DASD volume on a flex-es system running z/OS 1.6. I’ve set up data class with the extended attribute. I am able to allocate less than a full volume with no problem. I don’t see where th

Finding the last IPL time

2007-06-25 Thread David Cole
Hi All, Is there a way (an API or a cblock field) by which a program an find out the local time of the last IPL? Thanks, Dave Cole REPLY TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cole Software WEB PAGE: http://www.colesoft.com 736 Fox Hollow RoadVOICE:540-456-8536 Afton, VA 22920

Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities

2007-06-25 Thread Tim Hare
Question: how do we know that your organization is not just asking us to provide a way to disrupt mainframe systems? No offense intended, at all; it's just a basic security question. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209

IBM PROMOTING the Teaching of COBOL/ZOS in the Colleges (saving frame)

2007-06-25 Thread Robert Pelletier
Hi All. I need to put together a document that IBM is taking the mainframe seriously and is actively trying to get it taught in our schools. Would anyone have any good articles available for my use? Thanks all. Have a Nice Day ! Bob Pelletier Connecticut Student Loan Foundation Rocky Hill, Ct

Re: 3390-27 PERFORMANCE

2007-06-25 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Felitti > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 1:14 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: 3390-27 PERFORMANCE > > > We are considering use of 3390-27 devices particularly for > some large

Re: Testing System Programmer Capabilities

2007-06-25 Thread Mark H. Young
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 03:29:44 -0500, Eric Sun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >HI, all > >Our company recently had been given a task by our client to test the >responsiveness and capabilities of their systems programmer in their test >environment. Our tasks assigned include to hack their system to >cau

Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM

2007-06-25 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eugene Miya) writes: > No, the most difficult competition was and is against the IBM PC. > > If it did so well, we'd see more evidence of it being

3390-27 PERFORMANCE

2007-06-25 Thread Frank Felitti
We are considering use of 3390-27 devices particularly for some large DB2 tablespaces. Does anyone have any experience with performance issues with such devices our know where I can find documentation regarding such issues ? I understand that use of PAVs is a must. Thanks.

Re: IBM launches MySpace for mainframes

2007-06-25 Thread Pinnacle
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 12:03 PM Subject: Re: IBM launches MySpace for mainframes In a message dated 6/25/2007 10:27:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or, there's nothing that

Re: CICS TS 3.1 Customers: Last Chance to Order the Service Flow Feature

2007-06-25 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Barkow, Eileen > > -Original Message- > Can someone tell me how to just order the service flow > feature without reordering all of cics. > I selected customized products and tried to just select the > service

Re: CICS TS 3.1 Customers: Last Chance to Order the Service Flow Feature

2007-06-25 Thread Barkow, Eileen
-Original Message- i was able to order only the service flow feature by selecting 'productpack' instead of 'servicepack' and then it came up with a 'bypassable requisite' of cics ts 3.1. This shopzseries is really confusing since it is only the 2nd time i ever used it. And why is this prod

Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM

2007-06-25 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007n.html#18 The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM the place that 43xx had the most diffic

Re: Upgrade went mostly well :(

2007-06-25 Thread Gibney, Dave
It seems that Crypto Express2 needs to be configured as a co-processor use the PPINIT utility. Because SSL is the majority (all) of our current use, I configured all three as SSL accelerators. I had to re-configure back to co-processor to run the PPINIT utility. >> So jealous, just wondering

Re: CICS TS 3.1 Customers: Last Chance to Order the Service Flow Feature

2007-06-25 Thread Barkow, Eileen
-Original Message- Can someone tell me how to just order the service flow feature without reordering all of cics. I selected customized products and tried to just select the service flow feature, but it would not accept it without the 'mandatory requisite' of cics ts 3.1. -

Re: HR policy

2007-06-25 Thread Rick Fochtman
- :> :>It is quite common HR policy. It is usually kept 'in secret' (in silence :>at least), becasue it nothing to be proud of, but it is in quite common :>use. From the other hand I know companies in P

Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM

2007-06-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:14:15 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >My sister had an Amiga for years. I had an Atari 800 which had such >advancements as lower case letters! Oh, my second floppy driver for the Atari was a Z-80 powered drive with 64K of RAM. Besides working quite well, I was able to bo

CICS TS 3.1 Customers: Last Chance to Order the Service Flow Feature

2007-06-25 Thread Timothy Sipples
The planned General Availability for CICS Transaction Server V3.2 is June 29, 2007. CICS Transaction Server V3.2 was announced on March 27, 2007: http://www.ibm.com/common/ssi/rep_ca/1/897/ENUS207-051/ENUS207051.PDF In this announcement, IBM warned that orders will not be accepted for the CICS T

Re: IBM launches MySpace for mainframes

2007-06-25 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 6/25/2007 10:27:00 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or, there's nothing that can beat SHAREing. >> Kind of ironic they 'discovered' what IBM-Main's been doing for 21 years! Maybe there's hope for occurectilitus... *

Re: SV: how to list LE options

2007-06-25 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > > > The consultants were using our resources to compile programs for the > > consultants essentially stealing resources from our company. ... > > You let them off easy! > I would have dismissed them, r

Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules)

2007-06-25 Thread Dean Kent
I'm going to do this to inject a little levity (I hope)... "Chris Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Incidentally - only because I spell-check my posts - I may as well "improve" > your knowledge by pointing out that it's "Unformatted" with two "t"s. > > Please d

Re: Operating systems are old and busted

2007-06-25 Thread Staller, Allan
Leopard and Vista: Last Gasp of the Big OS? http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/133276 from above: Twenty years from now a new generation of computer users will look back on the operating systems of today with the same bemused smile we look back at the cars of the late 1950s and early 60s. They had

Re: IBM launches MySpace for mainframes

2007-06-25 Thread (IBM Mainframe Discussion List)
In a message dated 6/25/2007 10:27:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >it is often true that - if the social side is done right - the best help comes from fellow users who've been through the same problems. And often the fastest. There's no bureaucracy involved. Of

Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules)

2007-06-25 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of R.S. > > Chris Mason wrote: > > [ lots of stuff ] > [ snip ] > I read all the posts, including yours. A lot of text. > Actually I have other duties as well, so I did not pay to > much attention to each of them. Now I

Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules)

2007-06-25 Thread Greg Shirey
Chris, Thanks for acknowledging and supporting my point. Discussions on this list are certainly not "official" IBM communications. I believe, therefore, we should be as free to use USS as an abbreviation for Unix Systems Services as the folks who write IBM's APARs. Freer, in fact. I also bel

Re: SV: how to list LE options

2007-06-25 Thread Ted MacNEIL
> The consultants were using our resources to compile programs > for the consultants essentially stealing resources from our > company. The two steps we made to stop the process was taking > away access to sys1.maclib and also not allowing assembler to > be invoked. You let them off easy! I wo

Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM

2007-06-25 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Smith III) writes: > Re RISC vs. 68K: > Anyone who thinks the RISC chips killed the 68K is off base. They > just need to check the dates. I

Re: SVC vs APF and other 'privileged' code

2007-06-25 Thread Tony Harminc
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:13:13 +0200, R.S. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >BTW: My understanding of 'SVC risk' vs 'APF risk' >- both can do dangerous things. >- SVC can be invoked by non-authorized program and then could provide >'wide-open' security hole. Open to everyone who know how to invoke it. >No

Re: IBM launches MySpace for mainframes

2007-06-25 Thread Michael Stack
At 02:34 AM 6/25/2007 -0500, you wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/22/ibm_destination_z/ IBM launches MySpace for mainframes IBM aims to leverage social networking by building an online meeting place for users of its System z mainframes. It says the Web-based portal, called Destination

Re: HR policy

2007-06-25 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:28:20 -0500 Rick Fochtman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: :> :>It is quite common HR policy. It is usually kept 'in secret' (in silence :>at least), becasue it nothing to be proud of, but it is in quite common :>use. From the other ha

Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM

2007-06-25 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Smith III) writes: > Re VAX vs. IBM: > I was a central, low level member of the 4300 series. I also led the > engineering side of the fight

Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM

2007-06-25 Thread Howard Brazee
One of the more interesting PCs was the very expensive Heathkit that came as a kit. I wonder what the marked was for it. My sister had an Amiga for years. I had an Atari 800 which had such advancements as lower case letters! -

Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules)

2007-06-25 Thread R.S.
Chris Mason wrote: Radoslav [...] Incidentally - only because I spell-check my posts - I may as well "improve" your knowledge by pointing out that it's "Unformatted" with two "t"s. [...] I'm Radoslaw (Radosław in fact) and I don't use spell checker for my e-mails. 'unformated' was a typo, I'

Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program?

2007-06-25 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kirk Wolf > Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 8:29 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Read JCL Symbols from a program? > > > Kenneth, > > No, I haven't seen any acceptable workarounds

Re: Upgrade went mostly well :(

2007-06-25 Thread Neil Douglas
Our Z9 BC arrived with the wrong serial number as well. We pulled it out and returned it for the correct one. Cutover went smooth as silk once the correct machine was installed. Neil M. Douglas El Dorado County Information Technologies Information Tech Analyst II 360 Fair Lane - Bldg B Placervil

Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IB

2007-06-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 23:22:51 -0400, Walter Bushell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> But turkeys survive quite nicely in the wild. Not chickens. >> > >Among other things both have been breed for stupidity. I think there are >still wild turkeys, and ancestors of our modern chickens in the wild. Tom

Re: Unable to compile Java - iconv_init problem

2007-06-25 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:08:24 +1000, Nagesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Mark, >I added the STEPLIB variable to point to SCEERUN2 and the compilation >went ok. (See below). I must ask this. How did you know that the >SCEERUN2 PDS was required in STEPLIB ? > SCEERUN2 was needed for XPLINK support.

Re: SVC vs APF and other 'privileged' code

2007-06-25 Thread Rick Fochtman
R.S. wrote: Rick Fochtman wrote: From time to time I read on the list about companies which demand ISVs to provide source code for SVC routines to analyze it from security point of view. While I don't know to much about z/OS 'guts', I'm wondering wha

Re: RMM Housekeeping( EDGHSKP) get EDG2303E and S913

2007-06-25 Thread R.S.
mvsmain wrote: > Dear all > > We just setup RMM. We want to run Houseekeeping( EDGHSKP) ,We get the > following messages: > > > 15.21.33 JOB07163 IEF403I SJSMHSKP - STARTED - TIME=15.21.33 > 15.21.37 JOB07163 EDG2303E DFSMSrmm INVENTORY MANAGEMENT TASK ABEND > S913 > 1

Re: SV: how to list LE options

2007-06-25 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Ed Gould > > On Jun 22, 2007, at 7:05 AM, Thomas Berg wrote: > > > == Ed Gould == wrote2007-06-21 21:58: > >> On Jun 21, 2007, at 4:44 AM, Thomas Berg wrote: > >> --SNIP-- > >>> > >>

Re: MSYS

2007-06-25 Thread Chris Mason
Joe If you want a log of VTAM messages for archive purposes, why not write a simple program which extracts all "IST" messages from the log into your exclusively VTAM logging file? I took the trouble actually - again surely - to read up on the VTAM PPOLOG start option. I hadn't really noticed

RMM Housekeeping( EDGHSKP) get EDG2303E and S913

2007-06-25 Thread mvsmain
Dear all We just setup RMM. We want to run Houseekeeping( EDGHSKP) ,We get the following messages: 15.21.33 JOB07163 IEF403I SJSMHSKP - STARTED - TIME=15.21.33 15.21.37 JOB07163 EDG2303E DFSMSrmm INVENTORY MANAGEMENT TASK ABEND S913 15.21.37 JOB07163 EDG6303E SEVERE ER

Fwd: Unable to compile Java - iconv_init problem

2007-06-25 Thread zosbloke
Forwarding to the list Regards, Nags -- Forwarded message -- From: zosbloke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jun 25, 5:33 pm Subject: Unable to compile Java - iconv_init problem To: bit.listserv.ibm-main Hi Mark, I added SCEERUN2 to STEPLIB variable and I was able to compile and e

IBM launches MySpace for mainframes

2007-06-25 Thread Ed Gould
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/22/ibm_destination_z/ IBM launches MySpace for mainframes IBM aims to leverage social networking by building an online meeting place for users of its System z mainframes. It says the Web-based portal, called Destination z, gives customers a place to discus

Need Beta Testers for DAF 1.4.8

2007-06-25 Thread Michael Cleary
Greetings, I am looking for a few beta testers for DAF 1.4.8. Contact me directly (outside of this list) and I will e-mail you the code sometime this week. Here is what is new in the 1.4.8 level of DAF: Add Counts to DAF512I Add Customization Variable G21PR

Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?

2007-06-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:25:28 +0200, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >They violated some of the most important design rules to make themselves >a monopolist. Possibly. But as the line goes: "Never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by incompetence." >Now those violations come

Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM

2007-06-25 Thread R.S.
Phil Smith III wrote: More from my correspondent; I'm just the messenger, don't flame me... Re VAX vs. IBM: I was a central, low level member of the 4300 series. I also led the engineering side of the fight against the VAX. We never approached the installed base of the VAX machines. Never.

Testing System Programmer Capabilities

2007-06-25 Thread Eric Sun
HI, all Our company recently had been given a task by our client to test the responsiveness and capabilities of their systems programmer in their test environment. Our tasks assigned include to hack their system to cause/simulate system and application outage, of course not to the extent of hangi

Testing System Programmer Capabilities

2007-06-25 Thread Charokee Sun
HI, all Our company recently had been given a task by our client to test the responsiveness and capabilities of their systems programmer in their test environment. Our tasks assigned include to hack their system to cause/simulate system and application outage, of course not to the extent of hangi

Using the "SPINLOG" option for the JESMSGLG

2007-06-25 Thread Allen Thennes
Has anyone used the "JESLOG" option to SPIN off the JESMSGLG ? Example: //DB2UMSTR JOB ,DBA,MSGCLASS=N,JESLOG=(SPIN,'06:00'), // MSGLEVEL=1 Just wondering if there are any thing to look out for. Regards, Allen Thennes IT- Production Support Walgreen Co. (847) 788-4648 -

Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?

2007-06-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:50:10 +0100, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: > I don't think unix in any flavour is the answer for those that want >turnkey appliances. Businesses do buy turnkey appliances in Unix. And one particular flavor of Unix (OS-X) has quite a few applications that are v

Re: The Development of the Vital IBM PC in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM

2007-06-25 Thread Phil Smith III
More from my correspondent; I'm just the messenger, don't flame me... Re VAX vs. IBM: I was a central, low level member of the 4300 series. I also led the engineering side of the fight against the VAX. We never approached the installed base of the VAX machines. Never. Re RISC vs. 68K: Anyone

Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules)

2007-06-25 Thread Chris Mason
Radoslav 3. VTAM Unformated System Services (afaik). Regrettably your "knowledge" - "afaik" - doesn't appear to extend sufficiently "far". There is no problem with *VTAM* - aka the *SNA* component of Communications Server (CS) - USS but there is a possible ambiguity when the possible use of

Re: The USS Heresy (was Patents, Copyrights, Profits, Flex and Hercules)

2007-06-25 Thread Chris Mason
Greg I see this is not the first time you have directed my attention to this misuse of USS by the folk responsible for writing up APARs and PTFs. There are "official" and "unofficial" documents. What you find on the online "bookshelves" and - I'm going to issue a challenge here - "announcemen

Re: Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard?

2007-06-25 Thread Howard Brazee
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:37:25 -0400, Roland Hutchinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> You are absolutely right! That's why I make sure that when I have >> visitors they can see, usually, four computers, *none* of them running >> Windows. That way at least a _few_ people get exposed to alternatives

Re: HR policy

2007-06-25 Thread Rick Fochtman
It is quite common HR policy. It is usually kept 'in secret' (in silence at least), becasue it nothing to be proud of, but it is in quite common use. From the other hand I know companies in Poland where people work for two reasons: a) to get some e

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