Netview Messaging (was: System automation subplexing )

2007-07-30 Thread Barbara Nitz
Kevin, >Life would be a lot simpler if products running on z/OS all issued >messages through the operating system message service, but many -- >especially NetView (and exploited by the applications riding on top of >NetView) -- have their own, subject to their own rules, as you have >discovered. >

Re: VSAM in extents

2007-07-30 Thread Ron Hawkins
John, For your first paragraph, lets just put it with all those other extent myths. I mean, for sequential access you're just reading the sequence set anyway - what is there to flush!!! Striping sequential datasets can definitely speed up sequential access, but you may need to experiment with the

Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Cobol Conditional Compile

2007-07-30 Thread Albert Klimek
A good idea, but a C-Compiler is not available on the programmers workstations. I'll try it with REXX. Maybe IBM decides to built in the conditional compile feature in the future. Thank you all for your response. Albert VERLAGSGRUPPE WELTBILD GMBH Sitz der Gesellschaft: Augsburg Handelsregis

Re: Usage of KB and KiB

2007-07-30 Thread R.S.
John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote: [...] Then you have MS issues. When using Windows explorer a file show as 1 KB Right click on it and select properties it shows 55 bytes of actual size, but that it takes 4096 bytes of disk space. So what is the size, 55, 1KB (is this 1024 or 1000 bytes?), or 4096

Re: How to extend addressability over 4095 with USING statements

2007-07-30 Thread Tom Marchant
On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 22:52:17 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >Tom Marchant wrote: >> On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 08:57:58 -0500, McKown, John wrote: >> >>> Either use multiple base registers, or use the "long displacement" type >>> instructions Another >>> possibility is to use a relative addressing inst

Upgrading the processor

2007-07-30 Thread Sabo, Frank
Hello everyone, I have a question to ask of the group. I currently have an IBM7060 H75 processor running OS 390 2.10. We are currently going into our sixth year of a two year phase out of the mainframe. Since everything is non supported management is looking into upgrading the processor to

FICON Express4 card - 4km vs 10km

2007-07-30 Thread R.S.
What is a difference between FICON Express4 LX cards ? One is up to 4km distance, the second is up to 10km. Previous models (Express, Express2) were up to 10km. In other words: what are pros and cons of those cards, *except* the distance ? Price ? -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Ban

Re: Upgrading the processor

2007-07-30 Thread Rich Smrcina
There may be some savings on z/OS software costs with the new hardware as well. Do you require a full blown z/OS? If you can run z/OS.e, for instance (it's been renamed recently and I don't recall the new name), the savings could be quite significant. Sabo, Frank wrote: Hello everyone, I h

Re: Upgrading the processor

2007-07-30 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Sabo, Frank > > I currently have an IBM7060 H75 processor running OS 390 > 2.10. We are currently going into our sixth year of a two > year phase out of the mainframe. Sounds like a possible future story for "Rebo

Re: OSHELL RC = 32512

2007-07-30 Thread Ceruti, Gerard G
Anton Have you tried "CD" as 'cd' lowercase and does the batch job have a omvs segment defined in the security product. Regards Gerard Ceruti -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anton Britz Sent: 27 July 2007 06:11 PM To: IBM-MAI

Re: Upgrading the processor

2007-07-30 Thread Mark Jacobs
Rich Smrcina wrote: There may be some savings on z/OS software costs with the new hardware as well. Do you require a full blown z/OS? If you can run z/OS.e, for instance (it's been renamed recently and I don't recall the new name), the savings could be quite significant. The new name of zOS

Re: Upgrading the processor

2007-07-30 Thread Rich Smrcina
OK, thanks for the update... Mark Jacobs wrote: Rich Smrcina wrote: There may be some savings on z/OS software costs with the new hardware as well. Do you require a full blown z/OS? If you can run z/OS.e, for instance (it's been renamed recently and I don't recall the new name), the savings

Searching an utility to Query if a library is LLA managed

2007-07-30 Thread A. Vilardell
We usually update members of any library in any time. We would like to know if this library is LLA managed to prevent useless LLACOPYs. We are searching for an utility, with library as a parameter, to query if it is LLA managed or not. We want to avoid a console activation / deactivation and do

Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?

2007-07-30 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kenneth E Tomiak > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 12:20 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be? > More than the 'admins' on those othe

Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux....

2007-07-30 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 4:09 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux > > > > Z/ VM: A virtual machine like Virtual P

Re: Upgrading the processor

2007-07-30 Thread Itschak Mugzach
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Re: Upgrading the processor

2007-07-30 Thread Sabo, Frank
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zLinux distro

2007-07-30 Thread Gabor Hoffer
Hi, I'm looking for a free zLinux distribution. Which do you prefer? I'd like to install a 64bit zLinux under Hercules. Gabor -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wit

MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?

2007-07-30 Thread Paul D'Angelo
John McKown wrote This during the normal work day. He disrupted about 200 people. His defense: "It was less that a minute, for Pete's sake!" I LOVE IT Paul *** IMPORTANT NOTE* The opinions expressed in this message and/or any attachments are

Re: Searching an utility to Query if a library is LLA managed

2007-07-30 Thread Bielskie, Stephen
There is a SYSDSN enqueue on the dataset for the LLA address space when it is allocated to LLA. Perhaps that can be a starting point for you. Tools such as TASID (IBM) or WHOHAS (DA$ENQS from Dave's MVS freeware website). http://www.planetmvs.com/freeware/daenqs.html Regards Steve -Origi

Re: Upgrading the processor

2007-07-30 Thread Richbourg, Claude
I used to work with an H50. The three models are: The Multiprise 3000 models H30, H50, and H70. Unless there is something new going on here? ;. Claude Richbourg Florida Department of Corrections Systems Programmer III 850-921-1383 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List

Re: Upgrading the processor

2007-07-30 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sabo, Frank Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 7:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Upgrading the processor Hello everyone, I have a question to ask of the group.=20 I currently have an IBM7060 H7

Re: Upgrading the processor

2007-07-30 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richbourg, Claude Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 8:29 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading the processor I used to work with an H50. The three models are: The Multiprise 3000 models H

Re: Upgrading the processor

2007-07-30 Thread Sabo, Frank
Steve, The machine that we are running on is a 7060 H75 with 210 MIPS. Frank W Sabo Jr SR. Systems Administrator Phone: 412 967-3764 Fax:412 967-6120 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thompson,

Re: zLinux distro

2007-07-30 Thread Lindy Mayfield
Just FYI, there is a zLinux list also in case you didn't know at marist.edu. http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Please also see Timothy Sipples' email on this list: Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux Among other things he says: >Zlinux : A linux which is compile

Re: Upgrading the processor

2007-07-30 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sabo, Frank Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 8:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Upgrading the processor Steve, The machine that we are running on is a 7060 H75 with 210 MIPS. Yeah, I kn

Re: Searching an utility to Query if a library is LLA managed

2007-07-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:59:20 -0500, A. Vilardell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >We usually update members of any library in any time. We would like to know >if this library is LLA managed to prevent useless LLACOPYs. We are searching >for an utility, with library as a parameter, to query if it is LLA

Re: Upgrading the processor

2007-07-30 Thread Itschak Mugzach
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Cheers (was Re: KEY8 CSA: Pro/JCL and Info/XE)

2007-07-30 Thread Brian Peterson
Cheers! We have tested an early version of a fix to resolve this issue, and it appears to work just fine. My thanks to ASG for their efforts to resolve this issue. Our tech LPAR is still running VSM ALLOWUSERKEYCSA(NO) - 16 days and counting - I'm starting to think we might really be approach

Re: Upgrading the processor

2007-07-30 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Actually, for what it's worth, the H55 and H75 had nothing to do with IFLs or anything else. Andthey weren't MP3000 style machines either. Several years ago we "upgraded" from a 9672-R16 to an MP3000 7060-H50. Actually a lateral move as they were the same horsepower. Software and maintenanc

Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?

2007-07-30 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- This during the normal work day. He disrupted about 200 people. His defense: "It was less that a minute, for Pete's sake!" - At Clearing, he'd have gotten a promotion.TO THE CURB!!! :-D

Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux....

2007-07-30 Thread Kelman, Tom
Legolas Wood wrote: > > System Z: An specific operating system made by IBM for its architecture, > what is its differences with the Zlinux? > Current Z System version is 1.8 and Z/OS is old name of this operating > system. John Giltner wrote: > SystemZ is the current IBM mainframe hardware ar

Re: Damaged Catalog Alert

2007-07-30 Thread Alan Schenck
Greetings all, A head's up to the non-ECS shops regarding OA19870. IBM just reopened my ETR query on this APAR with the following update: "I wanted to let you know that we will be changing the text of APAR OA19870 to now also include that this apar should be applied to systems that have

Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Kelman, Tom
I have a question on the proper use of the IBMMain listserv. At times when I reply my reply is rejected because "it contains an excessive amount of quoted material from previous posts". I don't have this problem with other listservs. What is the proper way to reply to a post on IBMMain? Tom

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Greg Shirey
Tom, You might find this informative: http://www.planetmvs.com/ibm-main/faqp.html#rpost Regards, Greg Shirey Ben E. Keith Company -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@

Re: Usage of KB and KiB

2007-07-30 Thread Howard Brazee
On 28 Jul 2007 05:07:24 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >It's not easy. For example, you cannot dump 15MB region of memory (RAM) >to 15MB file. It doesn't mention tapes, wires (10MB/s - is it "binary" >or "decimal" ?), etc. That's very important with virtual memory. I hope there's

PCI Compliance - Encryption of all non-console administrative access.

2007-07-30 Thread Ray Prevott
How is everybody dealing with this anyhow? Testing procedures include a determination that TELNET and other remote log-in commands are not available for use internally. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access inst

Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux....

2007-07-30 Thread Richards.Bob
Tom, Don't forget the ten releases of OS/390. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelman, Tom Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux

Re: Damaged Catalog Alert

2007-07-30 Thread Darth Keller
>>A head's up to the non-ECS shops regarding OA19870. IBM just reopened my >>ETR query on this APAR with the following update: >>"I wanted to let you know that we will be changing the text of APAR >>OA19870 to now also include that this apar should be applied to systems >>that have catalogs w

Directions to IBM-Link 3270?

2007-07-30 Thread Denis Gäbler
Hi, IBMLink is currently not working for me, I am unable to upload a CSI Profile. I heard the list talking about the 3270 access to IBMLink, but could not find any instructions. Thanks in advance. Denis. Check Out the new

LOCATING THE JOB STEP PROGRAM OF ANOTHER ADDRESS SPACE

2007-07-30 Thread Paul D'Angelo
Hi, Is there a proper method for locating the Program specified on the EXEC JCL card from another Address Space ? I can locate the ASVT via the CVT. I can scan through the ASCBs and Command Scheduling Chain looking for a specifc job/procedure name. But what I would really like to locate is the

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Kelman, Tom
Thanks Greg. So it basically as I figured. Everyone edits that reply to include just what is needed from previous posts. Ok, I can handle that. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Beha

Re: Directions to IBM-Link 3270?

2007-07-30 Thread Edward Jaffe
Denis Gdbler wrote: IBMLink is currently not working for me, I am unable to upload a CSI Profile. I heard the list talking about the 3270 access to IBMLink, but could not find any instructions. Point your TN3270 client to port 23 at 204.146.168.209 -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software Intern

IBMLINK - Add AST item

2007-07-30 Thread Mark Zelden
I am unable to add items to AST. I get this error: Transaction error to: SSF request: UAP0 return code: 251 Before I open another IBMLINK issue, can others do this? Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS

Re: Searching an utility to Query if a library is LLA managed

2007-07-30 Thread Jack Kelly
Why not check to see if XCFAS has its enqueue on the dataset? If so, it is... Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-502-2390 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi

Re: IBMLINK - Add AST item

2007-07-30 Thread Robert Justice
same error here: Transaction error to: SSF request: UAP0 return code: 251 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archiv

Re: IBMLINK - Add AST item

2007-07-30 Thread Knutson, Sam
It has been broken all weekend. I got and still get the same results. I submitted a Feedback item Saturday but no reply yet. Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO System z Performance and Availability Management mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Directions to IBM-Link 3270?

2007-07-30 Thread Jack Kelly
> IBMLink is currently not working for me, I am unable to upload a CSI Profile. In addition to the IP address, you'll need an account Id and userid (which is different than ). Your SE/AE will have to get you these IDs, unless you already have them. Jack Kelly LA Systems @ US Courts x 202-50

Re: Searching an utility to Query if a library is LLA managed

2007-07-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:24:31 -0400, Jack Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Why not check to see if XCFAS has its enqueue on the dataset? If so, it >is... > Because XCFAS holds an ENQ for LNKLST data sets, not all LLA managed (which don't have to be in LNKLST). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software an

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Chris Mason
Tom In the early days of my using the list I quickly encountered the problem of the rejection of a post so carefully and painstakingly constructed. I was informed by some kind person - trying to give credit on the basis of feeble memory it may have been John Giltner - that I needed to discard

Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?

2007-07-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>He disrupted about 200 people. His defense: "It was less that a minute, for >Pete's sake!" Was he still gainfully employed, afterwards? I've seen dismissal for less! - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscri

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/30/2007 11:41:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: possibly by excessive quoting of some, one hopes, relevant technical material I happened to have created over the years and had the wit to retain - fall foul of the IBM-MAIN system - in transit tha

Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?

2007-07-30 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:49 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be? > > > >He disrupted about 200 people. His defe

Re: Directions to IBM-Link 3270?

2007-07-30 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/30/2007 11:41:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In addition to the IP address, you'll need an account Id and userid (which is different than ). Your SE/AE will have to get you these IDs, unless you already have them. >> Back during the IBM

Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux....

2007-07-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>It has gone from MFT to MVT to SVS to MVS to MVS/XA to MVS/ESA and now z/OS. You missed OS/390 (between MVS/ESA and z/OS). - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, s

Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux....

2007-07-30 Thread Kelman, Tom
Oops. I guess I also missed the very first one - OS/360. Tom Kelman Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted MacNEIL Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 11:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject:

Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?

2007-07-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
This just came across my email as an example of some salaries for various (not necessarily DP) areas. It was amusing. Though I guess if we lost our technical skills and became a paper pusher we would be worth more ;-) Accountant $140k Architect

Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?

2007-07-30 Thread Ron Wells
looking at this I know why they want price cuts on hardware/software...PAY THERE SALARIES .. -- Email Disclaimer This E-mail contains confidential information belonging to the sender, which may be legally privileged inform

Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?

2007-07-30 Thread Fletcher, Kevin
This just came across my email as an example of some salaries for various (not necessarily DP) areas. It was amusing. Though I guess if we lost our technical skills and became a paper pusher we would be worth more ;-) Liz, how do I get elected to be President and CEO? :-) I can feel the mo

Is there any way that i can practice mainframe related subject without having access to one?

2007-07-30 Thread legolas wood
Hi Thank you for reading my post. Is there any way to practice mainframe related subjects without having one? for example is there any emulator which can emulate mainframe OS ,and VM in a PC? Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscrib

Re: Is there any way that i can practice mainframe related subject without having access to one?

2007-07-30 Thread Field, Alan C.
Not for current versions of the mainframe software, but you can install Hercules and use Volker Bandeke's turnkey MVS 3.8 package. http://www.bsp-gmbh.com/turnkey/ and http://www.hercules-390.org/ Subject: Is there any way that i can practice mainframe related subject without having access to on

Jes spool deletion question

2007-07-30 Thread Melissa Perry
I have issued a $P SPOOLX against 2 spool volumesthey are draining. When I issue $DJQ,SPOOL=(VOLUME=SPOOL1,PERCENT>0), I see the following jobs .. those jobs are really not there...how do I get rid of the volume or the jobs. When I do a $dj'myjob' nothing appears. Thanks $DJQ,SPOOL=(VO

Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?

2007-07-30 Thread Jon Brock
All the witty repartee is great, but does anyone have any actual numbers that would be relevant? I thought I had the 2007 Robert Half survey, but I can't find it. Jon -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instruct

Re: LOCATING THE JOB STEP PROGRAM OF ANOTHER ADDRESS SPACE

2007-07-30 Thread Gerhard Postpischil
Paul D'Angelo wrote: I suspect this information is located in the JSCB but Where ? Step information is where you'd expect it to be, in the Step Control Table (IIRC, mapping macro is IEFASCT). It's pointed to by the JSCB (either address, or a token to be resolved with SWAREQ). However, if y

Re: some basic questions about Z system, Zlinux....

2007-07-30 Thread legolas wood
Thank you all for your really nice and descriptive answers. One more question, Does IBM provides JDK for Zlinux machines? Which other vendor do this? Thanks -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?

2007-07-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
My website of Choice for salary ranges is in SALARY.COM. The wizard is free and seems fair in its ranges. Lizette > > All the witty repartee is great, but does anyone have any actual numbers > that would be relevant? I thought I had the 2007 Robert Half survey, > but I can't find it. > > Jon

Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?

2007-07-30 Thread daver++
> From: Jon Brock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > All the witty repartee is great, but does anyone have any actual numbers > that would be relevant? I thought I had the 2007 Robert Half survey, > but I can't find it. I don't have it, but you can get it here: http://tinyurl.com/htolh More links here: http:

Re: Jes spool deletion question

2007-07-30 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:05:33 -0500, Melissa Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have issued a $P SPOOLX against 2 spool volumesthey are draining. When >I issue $DJQ,SPOOL=(VOLUME=SPOOL1,PERCENT>0), I see the following jobs .. >those jobs are really not there...how do I get rid of the volume o

IBMLINK Down again?

2007-07-30 Thread Mark Jacobs
I can't get in now. I get an internal server error message. Is it just me? -- Mark Jacobs Technical Services Time Customer Service - Tampa, FL -- "The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made." -- Julius (Groucho) Henry Marx -

IBMLink SEV 1 OUTAGE AGAIN!!! #32644395

2007-07-30 Thread Pinnacle
Time to B and M at IBM again. Rampant incompetence. Bob, save the comments about how well 3270 is working. You don't need to rub it in to those of us who can no longer get it. Regards, Tom Conley -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: IBMLINK Down again?

2007-07-30 Thread Steven Conway
Feeling no love here, either. Steve Conway Lead Systems Programmer Information Systems & Services Division Computer & Network Operations Phone: (703) 450-3156 Fax:(703) 450-3197 Mark Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 07/30/2007 02:57 PM Pl

Re: IBMLINK Down again?

2007-07-30 Thread Robert Justice
no, I got the apologies page as well. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-ma

Re: MVS - Z/OS Job Market, What should the rates be?

2007-07-30 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 30, 2007, at 12:55 PM, Fletcher, Kevin wrote: Liz, how do I get elected to be President and CEO? :-) I can feel the money rolling in already. Thanks, Fletch Fletch: Consider yourself elected. (signed) honorary signer ---

Re: Jes spool deletion question

2007-07-30 Thread Dave Danner
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 13:05:33 -0500, Melissa Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have issued a $P SPOOLX against 2 spool volumesthey are draining. When >I issue $DJQ,SPOOL=(VOLUME=SPOOL1,PERCENT>0), I see the following jobs .. >those jobs are really not there...how do I get rid of the volum

Re: Jes spool deletion question

2007-07-30 Thread Lizette Koehler
Melissa, If you have SDSF, then you can see if the jobs completed output processing by doing an ST in SDSF, then issue SORT Q this sorts based on the QUEUE name. Then look for $MASCOMM BPXASSTC01409 OMVSKERN 15 EXECUTION $MASCOMM STC115 PRINT A 1

Re: IBMLINK Down again?

2007-07-30 Thread Thompson, Steve
He's dead Jim. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html

Re: Upgrading the processor

2007-07-30 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 07:18:01 -0500, Rich Smrcina wrote: >There may be some savings on z/OS software costs with the new hardware >as well. Do you require a full blown z/OS? If you can run z/OS.e, for >instance (it's been renamed recently and I don't recall the new name), >the savings could be qui

Re: IBMLink SEV 1 OUTAGE AGAIN!!! #32644395

2007-07-30 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/30/2007 1:59:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Time to B and M at IBM again. Rampant incompetence. Bob, save the comments about how well 3270 is working. You don't need to rub it in to those of us >> Oh, I had a tossing and turning moment

Re: Upgrading the processor

2007-07-30 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 09:31:22 -0400, Thompson, Steve wrote: > >With z/OS 1.8, you will be able to use an external time reference (NOT >an ETR) and provide time services to your LAN (assuming a z/9 and I'm >not up on model numbers these days, so a 2096 could be one). > The 2096 is indeed a z9. Be

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 30, 2007, at 11:40 AM, Chris Mason wrote: Tom In the early days of my using the list I quickly encountered the problem of the rejection of a post so carefully and painstakingly constructed. I was informed by some kind person - trying to give credit on the basis of feeble memory it

Re: IBMLink SEV 1 OUTAGE AGAIN!!! #32644395

2007-07-30 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 30, 2007, at 2:50 PM, Ed Finnell wrote: SNIP- Oh, I had a tossing and turning moment... Where does HONE live these days? Surely if the CE's are having these connectivity issues somebody's gotta be locked and loaded on fixing the darn thing. Probably sti

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Darren Evans-Young
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Ed Gould wrote: >Chris, > >I find that a lot, some "rules" that are semi undocumented . IBM >seems to be bullied around on here for not documenting items, the >list owner should, IMO, document such things. In fact I have given up >trying to find such rules as they seem to be a

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread daver++
> From: Darren Evans-Young <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Some of these rules are not documented for a > reason. The list does not need someone circumventing my software so they > can post a "me, too" message and include 2000 lines of a quoted post. This seems like a proper application of OCO to me... --

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Tom Savor
>I'm in ATL right now. But when I return to Tuscaloosa, I will take out >my software and just let the subscribers do as they please. >Darren Wouldn't it be better for EVERYONE on the list, if you would add "Gould" to your scan software and reject everything. I know my Trash box wouldn't be soo f

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 30, 2007, at 3:18 PM, Darren Evans-Young wrote: Oh give me a freaking break! Yeah, like I sit here and enforce the rules on Joe and not Bob, Harry, or Bill. That's just ludicrous, stupid, and insulting. Whatever "rules" (documented or not) are all automated. If my software sees cert

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Darren, But when I return to Tuscaloosa, I will take out my software and just let the subscribers do as they please. Please don't. I have had an occasional post rejected due to forgetting to remove the footers and when I do, I just clean up the message and resend it. I probably speak for 99%

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi all, We are guests in the home of Darren, Ed, UA. House rules are always the last word. Darren does a lot of work on IBM-MAIN that I am sure is not in his job description and I don't expect he gets any slack on everything that is. I find Darren's extra work make the list more usable. It

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Wouldn't it be better for EVERYONE on the list, if you would add "Gould" to >your scan software and reject everything. There are three senders that I never see anymore. One talks about all the conspiracies. One is very bitter and pedantically corrects everybody. And, the third quotes a web-site

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Darren Evans-Young
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Ed Gould wrote: >Correction: I sent you a rejected item saying I was not a member and >asked why. I never heard back. I have no record of an email from you about being rejected...I save everything. The last personal email from you was about the Out of Office issue. That was o

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Richards.Bob
Amen!! And please accept my personal thanks, Darren. Bob Richards -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Knutson, Sam Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 4:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about the listserv Hi all, We

Re: IBMLink SEV 1 OUTAGE AGAIN!!! #32644395

2007-07-30 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/30/2007 3:02:42 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Probably still using the 3270 interface:) Ed >> Nah, using the fancy fones with the small LCD display. Tinier than a mod-1... ** Get a sneak peek of the all-n

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Dave Kopischke
On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:49:53 -0400, Knutson, Sam wrote: > >Just ignore Ed the rest of us have been doing that for a long time... > That's pretty harsh. And untrue. Many of us have learned from Ed's recollections and his contributions to historic threads have been useful. One of his contributio

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Dean Kent
- Original Message - From: "Chris Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 9:40 AM Subject: Re: Question about the listserv > I was > informed by some kind person - trying to give credit on the basis of feeble > memory it may have

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 7/30/2007 4:09:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Amen!! And please accept my personal thanks, Darren. >> As we gray, we'll be looking for a new list owner eventually. If you've never tried it, it's sincerely aggravating. Having to put up with the

Re: IBMLink SEV 1 OUTAGE AGAIN!!! #32644395

2007-07-30 Thread Thompson, Steve
I decided to take a bit of action. Here is the email I sent to Mr. Palmisano: - For years the mainframe was THE machine to have because it worked. Lots of effort went into that, one of the things being that from release to release the quality (RAS) had to improve for hardware as well as softwa

Anyone from Shelter Insurance on the list?

2007-07-30 Thread Steve Comstock
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Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Schiradin,Roland HG-Dir itb-db/dc
100 % agree Roland -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Knutson, Sam Sent: Monday, July 30, 2007 10:50 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Question about the listserv --

Re: question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread john gilmore
There is an Italian word, 'dietrologia', that I have mentioned here before. 'Dietro' means 'behind', both literally and figuratively, in Italian; and dietrologia is the pseudo-science of what is really going on in the world, what always sinister machinations lie behind appearances. John Gilmo

Re: sysprog demand

2007-07-30 Thread Mike Liberatore
I call it capitalism at it's worse. Pure greed!!! r hey wrote: Search on Z/OS or ZOS or OS390 or OS/390 on the site www.monster.com there is over 400 jobs, But if 500 are looking for jobs & 100 have not worked for over 1 year, & SPs are forced into retirement at 50, then that's not muc

Re: Question about the listserv

2007-07-30 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 30, 2007, at 4:06 PM, Darren Evans-Young wrote: On Mon, 30 Jul 2007, Ed Gould wrote: Correction: I sent you a rejected item saying I was not a member and asked why. I never heard back. I have no record of an email from you about being rejected...I save everything. The last personal em

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