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> Kees,
>
> Since nobody else chimed in here, I will. I think the system is
working
> as advertised. If you check the PAGEDEL or PAGEADD command in the
> system commands reference, it
Well no-one has answered, so I had better!
The 3345 was really a 3350 that was "re-partitioned" so that each
3350 spindle looked like four 3340-70MB spindles/disks. It was a cheaper
way of getting (maybe?slower) 3340s if you could not handle the 3350
architecture yet. ( you got a faster tran
That's the point Rick. Here, with this particular migration there isn't any
"required" toleration to perform for them. That doesn't mean that there
isn't any available to download, but none of it is "required" for their
conversion to be successful. For them (and a great number of sites) it's a
s
I don't think Java(TM) would be Java(TM) without zFS (or something very
much like zFS). A Zip file (i.e. Jar file) could be that very-much-like zFS
thing. (More on this in a moment.)
I'm a little confused, though, so perhaps the original poster can clarify.
When you install the SDK for Java, it in
On Monday 03 August 2009, P S wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bill Fairchild
wrote:
> > Not trying to be pendantic, but I think the word is "pedant". :-)
>
> True, but pe(n)dants are used to being hung...
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John McKown writes:
>Obviously z/OS is more advanced than UNIX. Why? Because z/OS
>contains UNIX (and is so branded, officially, by X/Open). So,
>if one thing contains another thing as a proper subset, then,
>the supersetting thing must be superior to the thing which it
>is a superset. Right? .
Yo
In a message dated 8/3/2009 8:22:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
jbaker...@comporium.net writes:
else noticed that the IBM Publications site appears to be
unavailable?
>>
What link are you using. This one works for me
_http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/os/zos/bkserv/zshelves9.html_
(ht
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Sam
>
> Hi All,
>
> I just ran across this item about the zIIP api for vendors. Reading
it closely, it
> appears that the API just makes it easier to code but is not required.
>
> http://www.prior
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Okay, for the sake of argument, and to make this short, just what part of
migrating from 1.4 to 1.9 do you think is not supported? The move itself,
of course it is. The fall back? Just who do you think would support it if
the move
Brian Westerman wrote:
How about if you were to revoke the ID for a pre-determined period of time
(15 minutes, 1 hour, 1 days, etc.)
Brian
That would be great, but how would you RESUME the ID? Do you want to
give SPECIAL authority to your automation product?
Rick
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Agreed on both points. The purpose of the web site it is establish a
stake-in-the-ground about what you know and when you know it ...
specifically for IP rights.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:49 PM, Ken Porowski wrote:
> Maybe a preemptive strike to keep someone else from patenting the
> process?
>
I take your point. It is not clear if it is internal use only or if it will
be eventually made public in some form.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 10:20 PM, Edward Jaffe
wrote:
> Ibm-Main Sam wrote:
>
>> I just ran across this item about the zIIP api for vendors. Reading it
>> closely, it appears that
Has anyone else noticed that the IBM Publications site appears to be
unavailable?
John P. Baker
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>From my perspective it isn't the install/fallback that is of primary
concern (though it IS a concern - consider if there's an ICF catalog
change and toleration PTF's are required), it's for sites with multiple
concurrent images that do crazy things like share spool or sysplex couple
data sets.
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Bill Fairchild wrote:
> Not trying to be pendantic, but I think the word is "pedant". :-)
True, but pe(n)dants are used to being hung...
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On Mon, 3 Aug 2009, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:46:34 -0500, Ron Wells wrote:
>
> >reason asking is Java pgm'r was curious as why Java did not have something
> >on the z/OS platform without the HFS/ZFS restriction(need)..
> >
> I'm trying to imagine the mind set of a Java progra
Rick, Rick, Rick. Supported, supported, supported. Fud, fud, fud. Here we
go again.
Okay, for the sake of argument, and to make this short, just what part of
migrating from 1.4 to 1.9 do you think is not supported? The move itself,
of course it is. The fall back? Just who do you think woul
How about if you were to revoke the ID for a pre-determined period of time
(15 minutes, 1 hour, 1 days, etc.)
Brian
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Another blatant product plug...
There is also SyzSPOOL which allows you to email or FTP the output anywhere
your security systems authorizes you to send it. Or access it from the web
(also assuming you are authorized).
Brian
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On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 14:46:34 -0500, Ron Wells wrote:
>reason asking is Java pgm'r was curious as why Java did not have something
>on the z/OS platform without the HFS/ZFS restriction(need)..
>
I'm trying to imagine the mind set of a Java programmer who
perceives HFS/ZFS as a "restriction". This se
Maybe a preemptive strike to keep someone else from patenting the
process?
It doesn't look like the paper would give the actual details on how to
use it (unless there is more to it than the two pages listed).
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> I just ran across this i
Sorry, I should have included
z/OS V1.9 RSU0902
Using TS3500 with 1120 E05 tape drives.
We would like to be able to encrypt the DFHSM Mig tapes. We prefer using our
DATACLAS but I am not sure DFHSM is letting it happen.
We are using this ACS code for all of our customer backup tape data so it
Depends on who(m) you want to do the encryption. DFHSM or the Tape Drives.
See the ENCRYPT keyword on the DUMPCLASS definitions.
BTW, AFAIK, this is not available for DFHSM BACKUP or MIGRATION.
IIRC, this came in about the z/OS 1.7 time frame via an APAR ( I wasn't able
to locate it w/a quick s
Ibm-Main Sam wrote:
I just ran across this item about the zIIP api for vendors. Reading it closely, it
appears that the API just makes it easier to code but is not required.
http://www.priorartdatabase.com/IPCOM/000183568/
This looks like a nice facility--probably for IBM internal use onl
Is there a parm in DFHSM to tell him we will be using encryption on his
tapes?
The only time that I thought that you had to tell HSM was when you wanted
to encrypt in zos and that was only set up for dumps, ie dumpclass. Sounds
like you're using the tape drive encryption and I would have assu
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:31:40 -0500, Ron Wells wrote:
>Kirk
>What I recv'd back from Pgm'r..
>
>yep, the 8 char limit would be a huge limitation to building a class
>structure, but then again, we've been working with 4 char program names on
>SCORE for who knows how long... i'm sure we would co
Sorry, I misunderstood the original question. I thought you were asking
about calling existing MVS load modules from Java. It looks like you want
to be able to package a Java application as an MVS load module (?).
A batch Java "application" is most commonly a *set* of jar files containing
Java
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:31:40 -0500, Ron Wells wrote:
>Kirk
>What I recv'd back from Pgm'r..
>
>yep, the 8 char limit would be a huge limitation to building a class
>structure, but then again, we've been working with 4 char program names on
>SCORE for who knows how long... i'm sure we would co
I am struggeling through the 2000 page hsm,dss, and ... manual.
Is there a parm in DFHSM to tell him we will be using encryption on his tapes?
I have an acs routine currently that says if the DSN = HSM.HMIG.* then
Dataclas=ENCRYPT
Lizette
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Hi All,
I just ran across this item about the zIIP api for vendors. Reading it
closely, it
appears that the API just makes it easier to code but is not required.
http://www.priorartdatabase.com/IPCOM/000183568/
Comments welcome.
Thanks,
Sam
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Kirk
What I recv'd back from Pgm'r..
>>>
yep, the 8 char limit would be a huge limitation to building a class
structure, but then again, we've been working with 4 char program names on
SCORE for who knows how long... i'm sure we would come up with a nice
convention for naming.
my desire is to
will pass this on to the Java Pgmr...and post response ..
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Ron,
Can you (or others who have similar requirements) be more specific as to
what you are looking
FWIW, Java already has a mechanism for launching a Unix executable (binary,
shell script, REXX script) as a child process, where stdin/stdout/stderr can
be piped into the child process. It is not difficult to create a REXX
shell script in the HFS filesystem that loads and executes MVS load module
Ron,
Can you (or others who have similar requirements) be more specific as to
what you are looking for?
For example:
What linkage conventions and addressing modes do you required?
What types of parameters (data areas) would be required?
Error (exception) handling requirements?
Examples would be
I gather also the alternative is the Linux to run Java on...less over head
and can use the z/OS file system(s) DFS or NFS or some other fashion to
get the benefits of z/OS file systems
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reason asking is Java pgm'r was curious as why Java did not have something
on the z/OS platform without the HFS/ZFS restriction(need)..
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> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Ron Wells
> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 2:26 PM
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> Subject: Java question
>
> Is there anything on horizon for Java pgm's written and exec'd MVS
> Loadlib's
Kees,
Since nobody else chimed in here, I will. I think the system is working
as advertised. If you check the PAGEDEL or PAGEADD command in the
system commands reference, it says (at least my really old hardcopy)
When you delete a page data set, the system migrates the in-use slots to
other
CICS used to have a facility to compile java programs into a loadlib but they
did away with it - CICS java programs now have to be executed directly from the
hfs files.
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Is there anything on horizon for Java pgm's written and exec'd MVS
Loadlib's? ...
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> Subject: Hercules; more information requested.
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> Greetings all,
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> Please forgive the cross post
I hope you received enough decent information before your thread got
hijacked without even the courtesy of a subject change.
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Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 6:47 AM
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Subject: Hercules; more information requested.
Greetings al
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 10:43:29 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote:
>
>>... One way to greatly relieve
>>it would be to allow (part of) LPA and JPA to reside above-the-bar.
>>
>>
>That may happen yet, but I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for it. There
>would have to be major modifications the most of the O
Looking at my code below, it seems like I didn't have to guess whether the
time came from the JES2 default or was coded. This was the check:
CLC 3(4,R2),=C'' CHECK FOR STEP DEFAULT
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No, but it's hard to call z/OS "modern" while it's hobbling along
with the equivalent of the model T engine. Too much legacy baggage.
Retain RM=31 and RM=24 for code requiring it, but also provide
RM=64 for newer code. I believe use
The first 3 messages are SMS messages. The third is not an SMS message.
IMHO it's reasonable to assume you should get the same messages for all four
data sets. Technically, however, I believe SMS is handling the disposition for
the first three messages, so you get an SMS message for each. Since
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Disabled routines can be interrupted, just not be I/O or external interrupts.
That leaves four other classes of interrupts that could theoretically happen.
Bill Fairchild
Software Developer
Rocket Software
275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA
Tel: +1.617.614.4503 * Mobile: +1.508.341
On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 10:52:14 -0700, Edward Jaffe
wrote:
>Just out of curiosity, does anyone actually use ICF - Information Center
>Facility?
>
Yes. I implemented the Application Manager portion of it when TSO/E first
came out. Application Manager provides a vehicle for deploying and managing
I
Not trying to be pendantic, but I think the word is "pedant". :-)
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Disabled routines can also be interrupted.
Bill Fairchild
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Of course there is, although it's pretty much the same maintenance as for
coexistence. When a new release updates, e.g., SPOOL, the changes are
sometimes such as to break an old release unless there is coexistence
service installed.
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Well, may be, but all datasets were allocated with disposition = SHARE...
What does it have to do with SMS?
ITschak
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Martin Kline wrote:
> Is the fifth data set SMS managed like the first four?
>
> >I looked (programmatic) into JESYSMSG file. A ddname defined in J
timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) writes:
> Many people date UNIX's origins to Multics. Development of both Multics
> and MVT started in 1964, so they are contemporaries of one another by that
> reasonable measure.
>
> But... does anybody really care? Seriously? :-)
re:
http://www.gar
I would look on the CBT TAPE under UPDATEs on the left hand side of the page.
It should be file 686.
Lizette
>
>>Lizette is correct. The example I posted requires the use of the "CBIPO"
>>SMFDUMP program for the "ALL" step. Search the archives if you want
>>to know more about the SMFDUMP p
The exit I wrote was back at MVS/XA 2.2. I looked back and I may have
had the same issue. Here is a snippet of code:
===
*
* CHECK EXEC STATMENT FOR USAGE OF TIME PARAMETERS
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> Subject: Re: D/T 3590 vs 3592
>
> Dennis McCarthy pisze:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > It appears we will be gettin
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 00:20:21 +0300, Binyamin Dissen wrote:
>
>IBM should have no problem moving disabled routines (or those that do not
>references pageable storage) above the bar.
True, but how many are there and how big are they? Disabled routines tend
to be small. So, while the effort to mov
SMS managed tape can tell the difference, and is the best way to manage
multiple device types. If you do not have an ATL you can define a manual tape
library for some or all of your drives to manage allocations.
>>> Dennis McCarthy 8/3/2009 9:03 AM >>>
Hi Everyone,
It appears we will be getti
Dennis McCarthy pisze:
Hi Everyone,
It appears we will be getting 3592 tape drives to eventually replace the 3590
MagStar units. I'm told the media for the two devices is not compatible.
True. You cannot mount old media in new drive and new media in old drive.
However, I'm also told that t
l...@garlic.com (Anne & Lynn Wheeler) writes:
> a couple recent posts in a.f.c. ng ... in a fairly active thread
> (thread even includes post by one of the people that originated
> unix)
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#52 Hercules; more information requested.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn
I use RCNVTCAT from http://www.cbttape.org/ftp/cbt/CBT542.zip This works
great and fast
2009/7/30 Stead, Joe
> Does anyone have a copy of this old IBM program?
>
> I'm cutting over my first operating system and it looks like it
> disappeared with the old Z/os guy's libraries. If I get one it's
timothy.sipp...@us.ibm.com (Timothy Sipples) writes:
> Many people date UNIX's origins to Multics. Development of both Multics
> and MVT started in 1964, so they are contemporaries of one another by that
> reasonable measure.
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2009k.html#52 Hercules; more informati
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>
> Many people date UNIX's origins to Multics. D
Hi Everyone,
It appears we will be getting 3592 tape drives to eventually replace the 3590
MagStar units. I'm told the media for the two devices is not compatible.
However, I'm also told that the 3592's are defined as 3590's in the IODF. If
this is true, I'm assuming the hex value of the 3592 w
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>
> On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 13:33:55 -0400, Gerhard P
Chase, John wrote:
OTOH, the older software arguably has the best "documentation" there is --
source code!
It's mixed blessing. We are missing source for some components,
other components are at the 3.7 level, with no PTF source, and
most of it is horrible PL/S output, with little internal
Is the fifth data set SMS managed like the first four?
>I looked (programmatic) into JESYSMSG file. A ddname defined in JCL (not
>dynamically allocated) concatenates 5 datasets. The first 4 datasets
>reported as retained by msgIGD104I. The last dataset was reported as KEPT
>by message IEF285I. Al
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>
> Howard Rifkind wrote:
> > [ snip ]
>
> > Being that I’m still on the beach I’d like to know where I
> > can find out more about Hercules and install it on my home
> > PC.
>
> Try www.hercules-
Hello,
I noticed some strange (and frightening) behaviour from ASM after a
series of Pagedel and Pageadd commands.
For demonstration purposes I IPLed this system with PAGTOTL=8 and 4
Locals. Together with the PLPA, Common and reserved Duplex slot, this
leaves 1 available slot for a Local. C
I looked (programmatic) into JESYSMSG file. A ddname defined in JCL (not
dynamically allocated) concatenates 5 datasets. The first 4 datasets
reported as retained by msgIGD104I. The last dataset was reported as KEPT by
message IEF285I. All datasets are defined in the master catalog with same
devty
>BTW: I don't know IMS, however I heard IMS loves CSA. A lot of CSA.
ECSA since V3.
And, only if you are using Fast Path.
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Hi David,
Thanks for the pointers. I'll follow-up.
Bob
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Subject: Re: SDSF PREFIX Enhancement (UK44477)
Hi Bob,
Binyamin Dissen pisze:
Are there problems with bar constraints for - code? 1GB+ modules?
Just curious.
Today ? No.
However think about i.e. CICS address space with MANY modules, tomorrow.
BTW: I don't know IMS, however I heard IMS loves CSA. A lot of CSA.
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Ron Hawkins pisze:
Radoslaw,
Just to be precise, RAID-1 is mirrored and RAID-10 is mirrored and striped.
Yes, I know that.
However it is quite obvious that data "within a chunk" is simply
mirrored - so easy to understand.
Of course - theoretically stripe size could be very small, i.e. 4 bits
On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 14:32:29 -0500, Mark Zelden
wrote:
>Lizette is correct. The example I posted requires the use of the "CBIPO"
>SMFDUMP program for the "ALL" step. Search the archives if you want
>to know more about the SMFDUMP program.
>
>Regards,
>
>Mark
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>Sr. Software and
Many people date UNIX's origins to Multics. Development of both Multics
and MVT started in 1964, so they are contemporaries of one another by that
reasonable measure.
But... does anybody really care? Seriously? :-)
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Timothy Sipples
IBM Consulting Enterprise Software Architect
Based in
Hi Bob,
The PROPLIST that are available are documented in the z/OS 1.10 manual
section 2.14. There is no modification bar for the
Command.PREFIX.AddGenChar, so I guess it applies to 1.9 as well. This is
only for the prefix command, not the extension to H and ST that the APAR
mentions (and I hadn't
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