Re: Curious about ATTACH and 'SVCR 0'

2009-09-21 Thread Barbara Nitz
I am curious, too, how this is addressed in 1.10. (We're not there yet). Here is what I learned *why* this behaviour exists (narrowly looking at only tcbs): When the dispatcher dispatches any tcb, all it does for the system trace entry is take the WLIC's last two byte (from the RB pointed to

Re: OT - End of a personal era

2009-09-21 Thread Wayne Bickerdike
You're just saying that because the beach has no sand in Vermont :) A big thanks to all contributors to Hercules,,, On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote: Patrick O'Keefe wrote: I've decided I'll drop off the list in a week or 2 rather than hear more

Re: z/vm - allocation of central / extended storage

2009-09-21 Thread Mark Post
On 9/21/2009 at 12:52 AM, John Argall jarg...@csc.com wrote: Hi, We are in the process of standing up a z/VM running Linux on z. (on a z/9). IBM have suggested a ratio of central/extended storage of 3 to 1 in the VM image profile. I was curious to see what other folks have done and

Re: file integrity verified - do I care?

2009-09-21 Thread Chase, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Robert A. Rosenberg At 07:56 -0600 on 09/15/2009, Roach, Dennis (N-GHG) wrote about Re: file integrity verified - do I care?: That depends on how important data integrity is to you. 97 indicates that the last

Re: DRCLEAR

2009-09-21 Thread Crabtree, Anne D
Do you have any idea of the time it takes to clear a mod-9, for instance? The thing about DRCLEAR is it cleared 121 mod 3's, 121 mod 9's and 126 mod-L's in 1 hour! Anne D. Crabtree System Programmer WV Office of Technology Data Center 1900 Kanawha Blvd East Charleston, WV 25305 (304)558-5914

Re: OT - End of a personal era

2009-09-21 Thread Richards, Robert B.
Pat, Get Hercules and play at home. :-) Congrats on a great career! Your presence will be missed here!!! Bob - -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Patrick O'Keefe

Re: Dumb Question - Credit Card Number Scanner

2009-09-21 Thread Peter Vander Woude
Doc, Actually, I dont' think this is accurate. From past audits, the PCI standard is very clear that the card #, stored at rest (either on disk, or tape), cannot be stored in the clear at all. If at least one person, or userid, can access this dataset, the card # MUST be encrypted. If

Re: Dumb Question - Credit Card Number Scanner

2009-09-21 Thread Peter Vander Woude
Lizette, If the CC # is encrypted, then the PCI standard is met, and yes it would be much more difficult to identify. Validation that a string of numbers is a CC # can be done by running a specific function against the 16 digits (I can't recall right now what it's called). If there are

Re: Curious about ATTACH and 'SVCR 0'

2009-09-21 Thread Bill Fairchild
You remembered the instruction wrong. 0A0D is the SVC for ABEND, not EXIT, which is 0A03. ABEND would be the only way to end a task normally in the Hosed System Architecture which I discussed at SHARE and CMG sessions in the early 1990s. :-) Bill Fairchild Software Developer Rocket

Re: file integrity verified - do I care?

2009-09-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 20 Sep 2009 07:24:11 -0700, jcew...@acm.org (Joel C. Ewing) wrote: I can conceive of a case where you might want to distinguish between 97 and 00, but don't know of any programs in our shop doing that. It might make sense if the failure was because of a known ABEND of a re-runnable batch

Re: OT - End of a personal era

2009-09-21 Thread Howard Brazee
On 20 Sep 2009 13:00:33 -0700, patrick.oke...@wamu.net (Patrick O'Keefe) wrote: I've decided I'll drop off the list in a week or 2 rather than hear more about all the neat new features of software and hardware that I will never see. Of course, in many shops, one could be at the start of one's

Re: RMF Spreadsheet Reporter

2009-09-21 Thread Michael Schmutzok
Cobe, Your upload/download process should work OK as far as I know. The FTP is just a transport mechanism in this case. To assist in defining the Overview Control Statements, look at the HELP tab in the Workload Overview Report spreadsheet. There is a button that opens the Create Overview

Re: OT - End of a personal era

2009-09-21 Thread Clifford McNeill
Pat, I have enjoyed your posts over the years and am sorry to see you go. Good luck! Clifford McNeill Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:58:17 -0500 From: patrick.oke...@wamu.net Subject: OT - End of a personal era To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu On Sept 25 my current employment ends, and since

Re: COBDFSYM With COBOL 410 - ((attn Frank Yeager??))

2009-09-21 Thread Frank Yaeger
Andy Robertson wrote on 09/20/2009 05:05:39 AM: Thanks, Frank, Martin; the problem was my cut-and-pasting from PDF. In fact the standard version of COBDFSYM works well with 410. Apologies for timewasting. Good to hear. Thanks for letting us know. Frank Yaeger - DFSORT Development Team

Just curious about HSM FSR names

2009-09-21 Thread John Kelly
I use to know the difference between the two HSM names in the FSR record but those cells (and a lot of their neighbors) have gone to the bit bucket. HSM uses two IDs with FSR records. They are '**HSM***' and ' *H*S*M*'. Does anyone remember what's the difference? TIA Jack Kelly 202-502-2390

Re: OT - End of a personal era

2009-09-21 Thread Warren Brown
I WILL JOIN YOU NEXT SEPTEMBER, ENJOY -- Original message from Clifford McNeill sy...@hotmail.com: -- Pat, I have enjoyed your posts over the years and am sorry to see you go. Good luck! Clifford McNeill Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:58:17 -0500 From:

Re: Reading DD card information

2009-09-21 Thread Kirk Wolf
Gilbert, My suggestion for having JCL/SET variables in a ASASYMBM user table has to do with what a program would see when it runs in the initiator. Of course, each step would see different variables/values. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 2:06 AM,

Re: RMF Spreadsheet Reporter

2009-09-21 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 9/21/2009 9:08:47 A.M. Central Daylight Time, sch...@shands.ufl.edu writes: From the Help for RMF Spreadsheet Reporter: Collect:When you create remote Report Listings or Overview Records, a Postprocessor job is generated and submitted on the host system. Download:When

Re: Reading DD card information

2009-09-21 Thread Kirk Wolf
I'm sorry - I didn't read Gilbert's example closely enough. One possibility would be to have the program see the last valuable of a given variable before the step was executed, sinces it is uncommon to set a variable more than once in the scope of a given step. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies

Re: Reading DD card information

2009-09-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:03:31 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: My suggestion for having JCL/SET variables in a ASASYMBM user table has to do with what a program would see when it runs in the initiator. Of course, each step would see different variables/values. Gilbert has concocted a more bizarre

Re: Reading DD card information

2009-09-21 Thread Kirk Wolf
Gil, I agree 100%, but I'll add that *both* would be valuable (100 parm, and JCL/SET variables visible). Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:03:31 -0500, Kirk Wolf wrote: My suggestion for

Re: Dumb Question - Credit Card Number Scanner

2009-09-21 Thread P S
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Peter Vander Woude pwo...@harristeeter.com wrote:  If the CC # is encrypted, then the PCI standard is met, and yes it would be much more difficult to identify.  Validation that a string of numbers is a CC # can be done by running a specific function against

Re: Reading DD card information

2009-09-21 Thread Gilbert Saint-Flour
Paul Gilmartin wrote: ... More generally useful would be a relaxation of the 100-character PARM limit and/or native support of symbol substitution in SYSIN data sets by the reader/converter/interpreter.  ... Of course, like everybody, I would like both things to be implemented, but because

Re: Reading DD card information

2009-09-21 Thread Rob Schramm
On the issue of the parm length.. why not just create something new. Sometimes retrofitting is just not practical. I vote PARM='PARMX',PARMX='WAY LONGER THAN 100 CHARACTERS'. A bit goofy.. but probably a lot easier to implement. Of course I am probably oversimplifying. Kind of like how

Re: Curious about ATTACH and 'SVCR 0'

2009-09-21 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 09/18/2009 04:41:28 AM: Re: Curious about ATTACH and 'SVCR 0' Steve Austin This is occuring on z/OS 1.10. Is there specific maintenance required? What type of entry will I see when the anomaly is addressed? -Original

Dell to acquire Perot Systems

2009-09-21 Thread Kelman, Tom
Dell is set to acquire Perot Systems to the tune of $3.9 billion. I wonder how this will end up affecting out-sourcing and the use of the mainframe. http://banktech.com/architecture-infrastructure/showArticle.jhtml;jsessi onid=BQQITPK0C3PSLQE1GHPCKHWATMY32JVN?articleID=220100298_requestid=290

Re: Dell to acquire Perot Systems

2009-09-21 Thread Mark Post
On 9/21/2009 at 2:45 PM, Kelman, Tom thomas.kel...@commercebank.com wrote: Dell is set to acquire Perot Systems to the tune of $3.9 billion. I wonder how this will end up affecting out-sourcing and the use of the mainframe. Probably in much the same way as HP's purchase of EDS. I.e, not

Re: OT - End of a personal era

2009-09-21 Thread Rick Fochtman
-snip--- On Sept 25 my current employment ends, and since I'm not planning to look for another job, about 37 years of a system programming career ends with it. Although the last 20 of those years have been more support /

Re: IBM Software Pricing

2009-09-21 Thread Michael W. Moss
This paper commissioned by IBM might be the source as the figures are just about as noted: http://www-935.ibm.com/services/us/cio/optimize/optit_wp_ibm_systemz.pdf On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 11:03:23 -0500, Eric Bielefeld eric- ibmm...@wi.rr.com wrote: Craig had a couple of other comments that I

Re: Reading DD card information

2009-09-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:37:52 -0400, Rob Schramm wrote: On the issue of the parm length.. why not just create something new. Sometimes retrofitting is just not practical. I vote PARM='PARMX',PARMX='WAY LONGER THAN 100 CHARACTERS'. A bit goofy.. but probably a lot easier to implement. Of

Denver SHARE Presentations on linuxvm.org - Six More

2009-09-21 Thread Mark Post
Cross-posted to Linux-390, IBMVM, and IBM-MAIN I've received six more Linux and z/VM presentations. I can't say I'm expecting any more to come in. Thanks to all the speakers that have contributed. Session Presenter Title 9102Bill Bitner Introduction to Virtualization:

Re: Reading DD card information

2009-09-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:54:45 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: ... PARM='PARMX',PARMX='WAY LONGER THAN 100 CHARACTERS'. ... I'd be quite satisfied with this _provided_ it was compatible with the existing CALL, LINK, ATTACH, etc. argument lists. ... (And that symbol

Re: Reading DD card information

2009-09-21 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:43:21 -0500, Patrick O'Keefe wrote: ... PARM='PARMX',PARMX='WAY LONGER THAN 100 CHARACTERS'. ... I'd be quite satisfied with this _provided_ it was compatible with the existing CALL, LINK, ATTACH, etc. argument lists. ... (And that symbol substitution would work within

Re: OT - End of a personal era

2009-09-21 Thread Roger Bolan
Just a side note here in defense of Vermont's reputation. There's a nice sandy beach. You just have to know where to find it. --Roger http://www.vtstateparks.com/htm/sandbar.cfm On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:24 AM, Wayne Bickerdike wayn...@gmail.comwrote: You're just saying that because the

z/OS SysProg training workshops coming up in our Live Virtual Classroom

2009-09-21 Thread Scott McFall
z/OS Related Workshops Coming up from ProTechTraining.com The following training workshops are scheduled in our virtual classroom. Please feel free to share with colleagues that might have an interest. z/OS http://www.protechtraining.com/training/course/PT3996/*~*~* Performance Tuning and

Re: Reading DD card information

2009-09-21 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:10:12 -0500, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: ... Awww, c'mon. That exposure has existed for classic PARM since the Dawn of Time, and we aren't hearing complaints, are we? Clarifying, by symbol, I meant JCL symbol, for which substitution is supported. I wasn't

Re: Curious about ATTACH and 'SVCR 0'

2009-09-21 Thread Barbara Nitz
You remembered the instruction wrong. 0A0D is the SVC for ABEND, not EXIT, which is 0A03. ABEND would be the only way to end a task normally in the Hosed System Architecture which I discussed at SHARE and CMG sessions in the early 1990s. :-) Wow, someone's actually *reading* my ramblings! :-)

Re: Reading DD card information

2009-09-21 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 14:54 -0500 on 09/21/2009, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: Reading DD card information: I'd be quite satisfied with this _provided_ it was compatible with the existing CALL, LINK, ATTACH, etc. argument lists. I.e. on program entry R1 points to a fullword which points to a halfword containing

Re: Reading DD card information

2009-09-21 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:58:13 -0400 Robert A. Rosenberg hal9...@panix.com wrote: :At 14:54 -0500 on 09/21/2009, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: Reading :DD card information: :I'd be quite satisfied with this _provided_ it was compatible :with the existing CALL, LINK, ATTACH, etc. argument lists.

Re: OT - End of a personal era

2009-09-21 Thread Umamaheshwar Iyer
Miss you Pat ! Have a wonderful retired life. Thanks Best Regards. Umamaheshwar Iyer | Project Manager | Tech Mahindra Hinjwadi, Pune - 411 004, INDIA Ph. Office: +91 20 4225 0801 | Cell: +91 97666 44472 Email: ui0037...@techmahindra.com www.techmahindra.com -Original Message-