When it comes specifically to 64-bit COBOL, the biggest issue (IMHO) is
"mixing" of 31-(and/or 24-)bit COBOL with 64-bit COBOL.
It is my impression (and I do NOT speak for IBM) that IBM is aware of the
"desire" for 64-bit COBOL, but that (given the LE, not z/OS restriction on
mixed 31-/64-bit) cod
"Clark Morris" wrote in message
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> On 8 Oct 2009 14:08:24 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>
> It could be done
For those in IBM-MAIN who don't follow such things. Clark has had long
running "desires" of how it would like to see IBM COBOL development
prioritize things.
This COBOL discussion feels like deja vu. :-)
As a reminder, I am not speaking for IBM.
There have been and are lots of discussions about future COBOL innovations,
both within IBM and with our customers. One of the big ones is how (and
consequently when) to get to 64-bit. I have my own (strong) v
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On 8 Oct 2009 14:08:24 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>---
>Obviously given the lack of support for 64 bit, the failure to implement
>64 bit addressing so COBOL can run nicely in 64 bit Websphere, the
>failure to imp
On 8 Oct 2009 15:32:09 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
>I am a COBOL person not an Assembler person. Don't the "grande"
>instructions require a specific "architecture level set"? If so, that might
>be why (as others in the thread have indicated), COBOL does NOT do what you
>are asking
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009, Ed Gould wrote:
>Mike:
>I use YAHOO and wouldn't think of YAHOO as restricting it. I was checking with
>Darren as he agreed to look into the matter for me.
>Ed
>
>--- On Thu, 10/8/09, Ward, Mike S wrote:
>
>From: Ward, Mike S
>Subject: Re: Is there an owner of IBM-MAIN nowda
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Bill Klein wrote:
> I am a COBOL person not an Assembler person. Don't the "grande"
> instructions require a specific "architecture level set"? If so, that might
> be why (as others in the thread have indicated), COBOL does NOT do what you
> are asking about.
Yes
I am a COBOL person not an Assembler person. Don't the "grande"
instructions require a specific "architecture level set"? If so, that might
be why (as others in the thread have indicated), COBOL does NOT do what you
are asking about.
It would seem a "reasonable" SHARE requirement for something
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Chuck Arney wrote:
> Did you ever hear of FLEX-ES? They provided a 64-bit machine that IBM
> would not let them license to production installations. They could
> license it to developers until IBM decided to not license the patents to
> them, so even the developer
So you may be lead to believe. In the end it makes no difference. It's
still another 64-bit competitor squished.
Chuck Arney
illustro Systems International, LLC
http://www.illustro.com
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P S wrote:
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 5:10 PM, Chuck Arney wrote:
Did you ever hear of FLEX-ES? They provided a 64-bit machine that IBM
would not let them license to production installations. They could
license it to developers until IBM decided to not license the patents to
them, so even the
And point you mentioned --- downward compat show me others that
really--- REALLY -- worry about that ..other than IBM..
In the beginning...and I remember...back in the late 60's... it was a big
issue and over the years the ability to run a program you wrote 3 decades
ago still runs ... amaz
Did you ever hear of FLEX-ES? They provided a 64-bit machine that IBM
would not let them license to production installations. They could
license it to developers until IBM decided to not license the patents to
them, so even the developers were cut off.
Chuck Arney
illustro Systems International,
Rick...
totally agree .. politics getting involved again ... someone wants
something ... $$
From:
Rick Fochtman
To:
IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date:
10/08/2009 03:58 PM
Subject:
Re: Justice Department probing allegations of abuse by IBM in mainframe
computer market
Sent by:
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---
Obviously given the lack of support for 64 bit, the failure to implement
64 bit addressing so COBOL can run nicely in 64 bit Websphere, the
failure to implement USAGE BIT, the failure to implement the IBM pushed
decimal flo
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Um, no.
A competitor may dominate because s/he has a better product, provides
better services, provides a better price-point... OR has some advantage.
"Unfair" advantages are actionable.
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Creating an appearance of 'doing something" is always more important
than actually "doing something". The PFC who walked around the compound
with a clipboard in hand escaped many "s**t details" because he was
"obviously doing somethi
Obviously given the lack of support for 64 bit, the failure to
implement 64 bit addressing so COBOL can run nicely in 64 bit
Websphere, the failure to implement USAGE BIT, the failure to
implement the IBM pushed decimal floating point, the failure to
implement IEEE floating point using the 2002 COB
Mike:
I use YAHOO and wouldn't think of YAHOO as restricting it. I was checking with
Darren as he agreed to look into the matter for me.
Ed
--- On Thu, 10/8/09, Ward, Mike S wrote:
From: Ward, Mike S
Subject: Re: Is there an owner of IBM-MAIN nowdays?
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date: Thursday, O
Chase, John wrote:
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock
Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
I did not see anything about it in the updates page in the language
reference nor the programmer's guide, but I'm wondering if anyone
here
knows if the new
Mine don't either, but that's because the network guys don't allow our
domain to send us mail from the internet. I.E from IBM-MAIN to
mw...@ssfcu.org from mw...@ssfcu.org at least that's what they tell me.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu]
Peter Relson wrote:
>From SDSF option H,
Help -> 1 for Extended Help -> 2 for Syntax of the H command
to second page for 2 Displaying all jobs
And yes, that too sounds somewhat unfriendly to me, as you are not trying
to display "all jobs and you really are trying to display "only your own
jobs"
Shmuel Metz explains:
>> I know one got put in there, but I didn't know it got put
>> there because some customer(?) asked for it to be put in.
>
> My recollection is that IBM created the eyecatcher APAR
> without customer input.
I just remember it showing up, but figured it was just a
release
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 17:19:44 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote:
>>>Of course using ISPF edit will destroy the MALIAS, ...
>
>>Does this get any better with PDSE?
>
>I don't believe so.
>For one thing, are supposed to emulate PDS.
>
In which case, they failed. With a PDS, if a primary
member name is deleted
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Steve Comstock
>
> Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
> > I did not see anything about it in the updates page in the language
> > reference nor the programmer's guide, but I'm wondering if anyone
here
> > knows if the newest
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 11:50:19 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:16:19 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
>>
>
>>Of course using ISPF edit will destroy the MALIAS, ...
>>
>Does this get any better with PDSE?
Ha! Surely you jest.
Try it and see. (hint: the behavior isn't the same
Willie
If you have output that shows the SELECT operand overrides the LEVEL operand as
opposed to further restricting the selection criteria, maybe you should open a
PMR with IBM to either get it fixed or have the documentation changed.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion
Documentation? We don't need no stinkin' documentation! :-)
Thanks for the pointer. I see it. Certainly not a good example of "the
principle of least astonishment". Ah well.
Frank
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In a message dated 10/8/2009 10:35:18 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
ggard...@gmail.com writes:
Isn't it outsourced overseas? No other comment necessary.
>>
Thing of it is the topology's in place to do failover at multiple sites.
They either don't understand it or can't test it piecemeal.
>>Of course using ISPF edit will destroy the MALIAS, ...
>Does this get any better with PDSE?
I don't believe so.
For one thing, are supposed to emulate PDS.
For another, I think it's still a pointer to a location (page).
-
Too busy driving to stop for gas!
Farley, Peter x23353 wrote:
I did not see anything about it in the updates page in the language
reference nor the programmer's guide, but I'm wondering if anyone here
knows if the newest release of the Enterprise COBOL compiler will
generate "grande" arithmetic instructions for COBOL binary field
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 16:39:48 -0500, Ward, Mike S wrote:
>I tried getting LU0 to work, but couldn't. So I used LU2 and it worked.
But used it to do what? What's behind the LU on the remote end?
A 3270 emulator that displays the data? Or a program that does
something else with the data? If the
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 08:16:19 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
>
>Even though I wrote the alias relationship backwards, I thought I did when
>I indicated "COMMANDS" is the member help looks at. Gilbert needed
>to update COMMANDS, not IKJEFH90 - which I'm sure he figured out.
>
Indeed, I was headed in the w
You're welcome, Pat.
I'm glad you like SAS Email.
Please do check out XMITIP, too, as a possible alternative. It's free. It's
excellent. And it has some really good features when it comes to creating
attachments, e.g., creating PDF or RTF files from printable reports that
print properly on a PC pri
I need to chime in with a "me too" on this. I have checked and
re-checked that my list settings are NOACK REPRO on IBM-MAIN and on a
number of other IBM lists to which I subscribe, but for some months now
I never see copies of my own posts sent back to me.
I had suspected my company's hired email
I did not see anything about it in the updates page in the language
reference nor the programmer's guide, but I'm wondering if anyone here
knows if the newest release of the Enterprise COBOL compiler will
generate "grande" arithmetic instructions for COBOL binary fields (e.g.
will it generate an AG
I just wanted to thank you for the SAS information. We just started to
have this discussion, of e-mail with attachments, and you have provided me
with a no cost resolution that works and is easy.
Pat
Pat Mihalec
Rush University Medical Center
Senior System Programmer
(312) 942-8386
pat_miha...
Isn't it outsourced overseas? No other comment necessary.
On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 5:41 AM, McKown, John
wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Clark Morris
> > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:31 PM
> > To: IBM
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 11:07 -0400, Elliot, David wrote:
> Of course IBM is being unfair to its competitors. That's what being
> dominant means.
Um, no.
A competitor may dominate because s/he has a better product, provides
better services, provides a better price-point... OR has some advantage.
"
Creating an appearance of 'doing something" is always more important
than actually "doing something". The PFC who walked around the compound
with a clipboard in hand escaped many "s**t details" because he was
"obviously doing something" already.
-jc-
> -Original Message-
> From: IBM
John P Kalinich wrote:
>> BTW, I recently added the FSHELP command (Full-Screen HELP) to the
> > freeware file I distribute. FSHELP uses STEMEDIT to BROWSE or VIEW
> > the output of the HELP command.
> > It's all here: http://gsf-soft.com/Freeware/
>
> FSHELP (alias of REVIEW) from CBT file
A >>> emulating JD probing themselves ... Gov. nothing else better to
do with your tax money .. LOL
From:
"Elliot, David"
To:
IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Date:
10/08/2009 10:07 AM
Subject:
Re: Justice Department probing allegations of abuse by IBM in mainframe
computer market
Sent by:
IBM Mainfr
They'll be discovering steam next. Of course IBM is being unfair to its
competitors. That's what being dominant means.
David Elliot
zSeries Software Support
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Edward Jaffe
Sent: Thursday, O
>I was not aware of "PREFIX **".
>This appears to work well!
>Thanks for the heads up!
>Where is this documented, anyway?
>SDSF seems to only have one manual,
>"SDSF Operation and Customization",
>and I can't find PREFIX documented anywhere in there.
According to the SDSF folks, their commands are
IEFC614I PROCLIB DEVICE I/O ERROR SEARCHING FOR PROCEDURE/INCLUDE
The cure to the problem has been addressed by other but Hal's point is
probably the cause, more so than a defrag, with the PROCLIB excluded. If
the PROCLIB goes into extents while it's open you should get this error
for anythin
It may be helpful if these kinds of datasets are allocated without secondary
extents.
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of
Peter Vander Woude
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 3:15 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: IEFC614
Gilbert,
Thanks for the suggestion. I tried out the command and it gave me what I was
looking for.
Thanks.
--- On Thu, 10/8/09, Gilbert Cardenas wrote:
From: Gilbert Cardenas
Subject: Re: DFHSM QUESTION - LISTING ML2 ENTRIES (MCDS) FOR A SPECIFIC HLQ
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Received: Th
Ed,
I assume you checked the box to receive your own posts on the Join or Leave
the IBM-MAIN List screen.
Eric Bielefeld
Sr. Systems Programmer
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
414-475-7434
- Original Message -
From: "Ed Gould"
Did you ever find an answer as to why my submissions are not ech
In , on 10/02/2009
at 05:07 PM, "William H. Blair" said:
>I know one got put in there, but I didn't know it got put
>there because some customer(?) asked for it to be put in.
My recollection is that IBM created the eyecatcher APAR without customer
input.
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The documentation for FDRTCOPY contains the following in its explanation of
the EXP paramater of the copy command (the following is paraphrased and out
of order from the manual):
EXP=JCL is the default
EXP=JCL says that any EXPDT or RETPD on the output tape will be honored. If
these are not pr
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 14:55:10 +0200, R.S.
wrote:
>Doc Farmer pisze:
>> Well, first of all, and speaking purely as an Information Security
>> specialist
and
>> fellow mainframer, I would recommend you find the person who requested
your
>> password and beat them senseless with a full box of 80-co
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 17:45:39 -0500, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
>On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:51:14 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:55:56 +0200, Gilbert Saint-Flour wrote:
>>
>>>When I issue the default HELP command (no operand), I get a list of TSO
>>>commands, not of any product which has
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 14:51:14 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote:
>On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:55:56 +0200, Gilbert Saint-Flour
> wrote:
>
>>Hello:
>>
>>When I issue the default HELP command (no operand), I get a list of TSO
>>commands, not of any product which has HELP members in SYS1.HELP, such as
>>RACF or HSM.
Doc Farmer pisze:
Well, first of all, and speaking purely as an Information Security specialist and
fellow mainframer, I would recommend you find the person who requested your
password and beat them senseless with a full box of 80-column cards
(unpunched, so that they have their full weight and
Gilbert Saint-Flour of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List
wrote on 10/08/2009 01:59:12 AM:
> Gilbert Saint-Flour
> Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>
> Bill Godfrey wrote:
>
> > Try sys1.help(commands).
>
> That's what I needed, thank you. I previously ran a search on SYS1.HELP
and,
> for
Well, first of all, and speaking purely as an Information Security specialist
and
fellow mainframer, I would recommend you find the person who requested your
password and beat them senseless with a full box of 80-column cards
(unpunched, so that they have their full weight and heft).
My syst
When I arrived at work this morning there was a panel on my work station that
was asking for my password for LISTSERV. I don't recall ever having a password
or for that matter how to request a password.
Can someone help clear up this confusion?
Thanks,
Ray Baraniecki
Morgan Stanley Smith Bar
And since you have MXG, look at member EMAIL.
Barry Merrill
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Hi Willie, I usually use the following format and it brings back only the
datasets that match the HLQ :
HSEND LIST LEVEL(MYHLQ) MCDS ODS(MYUSERID.DATASETS)
Regards,
Gil.
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 09:07:26 -0700, willie bunter
wrote:
>Good Day To All,
>
>Could anybody tell me how I can obtain a
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 13:56:48 -0500, Jan Vanbrabant wrote:
>But I couldn't dig up what I was looking for:
>will one of the reports display the CPU usage within each module?
Jan,
None of the reports you listed will show CPU consumption
by program, because that information is not collected.
Reported
Bill Godfrey wrote:
> Try sys1.help(commands).
That's what I needed, thank you. I previously ran a search on SYS1.HELP and,
for some reason, found IKJEFH90 but not COMMANDS - no idea why.
Sorry I bothered IBM-MAIN with something like that.
I currently plan to build an addendum to COMMANDS th
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