Re: floating-point performance

2010-03-16 Thread David Crayford
john gilmore wrote: For n = 50(10)100 I inverted an identity matrix, a unit upper triangular matrix, and a unit lower triangular matrix using first HFP and then BFP. The results, stated as index numbers with BFP=100, are summarized below. 50 60 70 80 90 100n 101 101 100 103

Re: RACHECK call: determining whether and which TCBSENV (TCB ACEE) is in charge

2010-03-16 Thread George Fogg
No problem Wayne, I figured that's what happened. Can't count the times my typing got ahead of what little brain cells I have left were thinking. Dr. Stephen Fedtke: Here's some sample code and you don't have to use R1 like I did. L R1,PSATOLD-PSA ADDR OF ASCB

Re: RACHECK call: determining whether and which TCBSENV (TCB ACEE) is in charge

2010-03-16 Thread Wayne Driscoll
George, You are correct, I got the two control blocks mixed up. I did indeed mean ASXBSENV is used to locate the ACEE. Sorry for any confusion. === Wayne Driscoll OMEGAMON DB2 L3 Support/Development wdrisco(AT)us.ibm.com =

Re: RACHECK call: determining whether and which TCBSENV (TCB ACEE) is in charge

2010-03-16 Thread George Fogg
> Only the TCBSENV for the current TCB is used if non-zero. If the current > TCBSENV is zero, then ACEESENV is used. > Never heard of a ACEESENV. I think you mean ASXBSENV. George Fogg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archiv

Re: SMF74PSM - PAV Samples

2010-03-16 Thread Shane Ginnane
Chris have you had a look at the PAV analysis tool on the z/OS Unix "Tools and Toys" page ?. The graphs (from SAS) are a bit lurid, but you might be able to use the extracted data. Shane ... Chris wrote on 17/03/2010 01:37:23 AM: >I would be looking at tracking HyperPAV at the device level

Re: RACHECK call: determining whether and which TCBSENV (TCB ACEE) is in charge

2010-03-16 Thread Wayne Driscoll
Only the TCBSENV for the current TCB is used if non-zero. If the current TCBSENV is zero, then ACEESENV is used. === Wayne Driscoll OMEGAMON DB2 L3 Support/Development wdrisco(AT)us.ibm.com === From: "Dr.

RACHECK call: determining whether and which TCBSENV (TCB ACEE) is in charge

2010-03-16 Thread Dr. Stephen Fedtke
hi all, when there is a need to determine the TCBSENV (TCB ACEE) in charge for a given RACHECK call, determining it for the current TCB is quite easy: L R14,PSATOLD-FLC(0,0)LOAD CURRENT TASK CONTRO ICM R15,B'',TCBSENV-TCB(R14) BNZ tcbacee_given my question:

Re: Moving away from CA-PDSMAN

2010-03-16 Thread Shane Ginnane
EFLISTS don't come close to EasyEdit lists IMHO. You will no doubt meet user resistance unless you have the clout of a Corporate fiat. Haven't looked at XEF from Mark - or simplist for that matter. Shane ... -- For IBM-MAIN subsc

Re: floating-point performance

2010-03-16 Thread john gilmore
For n = 50(10)100 I inverted an identity matrix, a unit upper triangular matrix, and a unit lower triangular matrix using first HFP and then BFP. The results, stated as index numbers with BFP=100, are summarized below. 50 60 70 80 90 100n 101 101 100 103 10199I 101 10

Re: What was the historical price of a P/390?

2010-03-16 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#13 What was the historical price of a P/390? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#14 What was the historical price of a P/390? http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#16 What was the historical price of a P/390? there is this old IBM story about the c

Re: 'floating' vs. 'floting'

2010-03-16 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>This forum is not the place for lessons in English orthography, and >discouraging non-native speakers of English from posting in no part of what we >are about here. >Moreover, style is not important; but substantive keyword >correctness is. Hear! Hear! I usually try to help those challeng

'floating' vs. 'floting'

2010-03-16 Thread john gilmore
I think we all understand the intent of 'floting'. Moreover, Miklos Szigetvari writes English very much better than I should write Hungarian if I were required to do so. Why then address this difference? The answer is that threads that have quaint titles vanish into the archives essen

Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9

2010-03-16 Thread George Henke
Just go into RMFMON III, select Option 1 OVERVIEW, then Option 4 DELAY and you get a display showing who the job is waiting for and why. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Pawel Leszczynski < pawel.leszczyn...@pkobp.pl> wrote: > Hello everybody, > > Recently, when I was looking at RMF monitor I

Re: IBM Library Server Library online

2010-03-16 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 3/16/2010 1:00:11 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jch...@ussco.com writes: This one works for me: >> Me too. Organization kinda shabby in the org as A-DB/2 UDB and DB/2 v7-NCP 7.7. While the V7 and v8 shelves are in the former DB/2 v9 is in the latter? Clearly not vetted b

Re: File-aid: latest version?

2010-03-16 Thread Steve Comstock
Thanks, Patrick, Bret, John; I've got 8.8 docs, so I'll go on a search for 9.2 docs. Mullen, Patrick wrote: The latest version of File-AID/MVS is 9.2, according to their (login required) Frontline website. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.u

Re: IBM Library Server Library online

2010-03-16 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine > > Until recently I was using > http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/handheld/Connected/ library > to > get to IBM manuals in Bookmanager form whereby I could see the > different products

Re: IBM Library Server Library online

2010-03-16 Thread Staller, Allan
No, but I sent Big Blue a nasty-gram via the contact us link, explaining the performance issues. I encourage all online users to do the same. Then 3 clicks, 3 seconds and I was at the manual I wanted. Now 4 clicks, 30-45 seconds and I'm still not there. Blankety-blank PFCSK's Subject: IBM Libra

IBM Library Server Library online

2010-03-16 Thread Jim McAlpine
Until recently I was using http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/handheld/Connected/library to get to IBM manuals in Bookmanager form whereby I could see the different products in their own shelves which made it easy to search for instance all the DB2 V8 books. That link has now ch

64-Bit Storage / Performance Issues with z/OS 1.10

2010-03-16 Thread Jack Oakley
Curious to learn if anyone else has experienced this problem and what you did to resolve it. Migrating from z/OS 1.9 to 1.10. z/OS 1.10 exploits more 64-bit storage (GRS, SMSPDSE, TRACE, etc). The system trace (TRACE) buffers not only increased from 256K to 1M per logical CP, but also moved

Re: File-aid: latest version?

2010-03-16 Thread Hoesly, Bret
I just got done installing File-AID 9.1.0 a week ago, but I do believe 9.2.0 is the most current release available. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Donnelly, John P Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.

Re: File-aid: latest version?

2010-03-16 Thread McKown, John
We're at 9.0.1, but I don't think that is the latest version. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com

Re: File-aid: latest version?

2010-03-16 Thread Donnelly, John P
...we use FILE-AID 8.9.5... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: File-aid: latest version? I have a client who is interested in including s

File-aid: latest version?

2010-03-16 Thread Steve Comstock
I have a client who is interested in including some File-aid training in our JCL and Utilities course; Compuware doesn't seem to be as forthcoming as IBM in terms of available technical documentation on the web, or for that matter, even stuff like release levels and so on for non-customers. So ca

Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9

2010-03-16 Thread Hal Merritt
I should have also noted that WLM does not work quickly. So, we could have an inappropriate goal and WLM has not yet given up or is retrying. Upon rereading the OP, I see that I missed that the event occurs upon heavy job submission. I've seen this before a while back: a job/task starts a mass

Re: What was the historical price of a P/390?

2010-03-16 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes: > PC's may have the speed edge for an individual I/O, but how does a fast PC > I/O stack up against 1

Re: Yet another mixed case question

2010-03-16 Thread Charles Mills
Agreed. I think the issue of what TSO and/or ISPF should do with lower case operands is somewhat complex, i.e., reasonable people can disagree about whether what TSO and ISPF do today is optimal. But in this case the problem is just C/C++ and/or LE doing something unbelievably gratuitous. Charles

Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9

2010-03-16 Thread Kelman, Tom
I was just reading a presentation made by Rich Olcott at the August 2008 SHARE that might relate to what Hal is referring to. In it Rich is discussing the unattainable goal. He says that after a time WLM will realize that the goal can't be reached and will stop trying for a while. So basically th

Re: SMF74PSM - PAV Samples

2010-03-16 Thread Chris Burgess
John, I would be looking at tracking HyperPAV at the device level. That way we could see how well they move around in the LCU while different jobs are running. However, the numbers reported at the LCU level are useful. Thanks, Chris Burgess EMC² where information live

Re: What was the historical price of a P/390?

2010-03-16 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010f.html#8 What was the historical price of a P/390? recent old email http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2010e.html#email810617 in this

Re: IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy

2010-03-16 Thread Howard Brazee
On 15 Mar 2010 12:19:23 -0700, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: >>IBM And Microsoft Clash Over Unbundling Policy >>http://www.informationweek.com/news/global-cio/interviews/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=223800165 > >Does this mean that microsoft has stopped signing res

Re: SMP/E datasets question

2010-03-16 Thread Luis Andrade
Although IBM has some recommendations on it, the SMP/E environment is flexible and allows each one to have it defined as you see more convenient. We can have at least three possible scenarios for it: * Single-CSI structure * Multiple-CSI structure * consolidate previous with a Master CSI Anyway

Re: SMP/E datasets question

2010-03-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:16:08 -0500, Rabbe, Luke wrote: >I'm not determined to break the rules. I've already broken them and I want to >fix it. > Can you start over? Do you still have the original installation media? It's hardly more drastic and certainly more straightforward than cloning the (

Re: Loading PDF files and Pringing them on Mainframe

2010-03-16 Thread Jim Heifetz
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:56:05 -0500, Lizette Koehler wrote: >I have been asked if it is possible to take a PDF and load it on the >Mainframe for printing. As others have mentioned, the Infoprint server component of z/OS includes most of the pieces you need to do this - the rest are in the AFP

Re: What was the historical price of a P/390?

2010-03-16 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well. shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes: > PC's may have the speed edge for an individual I/O, but how does a fast PC > I/O stack up against

Re: What was the historical price of a P/390?

2010-03-16 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes: > PC's may have the speed edge for an individual I/O, but how does a fast PC > I/O stack up against 100's of concurrent mainframe I/O's? It's the number > of channels operating in parallel that gives the mainframe a speed edge. re: ht

Re: Moving away from CA-PDSMAN

2010-03-16 Thread John P Kalinich
The PDS command (CBT file 182) supports REFLIST dataset changing and PDS also has a "Change Menu" panel that allows up to 15 datasets/volsers/disps for dataset changing (this could be extended by making it a scrollable panel). The change menu variables are saved in the ISPF profile. Regards, John

Re: Moving away from CA-PDSMAN

2010-03-16 Thread Don Leahy
It's not free (though it is cheap), but I would suggest looking at Mackinney's Simplist product. It has the ability to store lists of users' favorite data sets (and other types of objects such as DB2 tables, Unix directories and TSO commands). I've been using it for about 5 years now, and I am a

Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9

2010-03-16 Thread Hal Merritt
I hear that overly aggressive WLM goal settings can do this. Look for high importance workloads not meeting their goals because the goals are not achievable. I believe that WLM will hold back recourses in an effort to 'push' these workloads towards their goals. -Original Message---

Re: Moving away from CA-PDSMAN

2010-03-16 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 10:07:15 -0400, Duane Weaver wrote: >We are trying to move away from CA-PDSMAN. One feature that our few >remaining users like, is the Easyedit feature of a list files that the user >commonly edits. > > > >Has anyone else moved away from PDSMAN and how did you handle that fe

Re: Moving away from CA-PDSMAN

2010-03-16 Thread Rob Scott
Try Mark Zelden's "XEF" freeware at http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html Rob Scott Developer Rocket Software 275 Grove Street * Newton, MA 02466-2272 * USA Tel: +1.617.614.2305 Email: rsc...@rs.com Web: www.rocketsoftware.com -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion Lis

Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9

2010-03-16 Thread Pawel Leszczynski
Strange - during these delays CEC is not heavily loaded (75%), we have 30% available frames, and these delays are reported in section STORAGE delays (as 100% delays , reason: OUTR 100%) I am not sure (I doubt) it's CPU problem Regards, Pawel On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:04:50 -0500, McKown, John wro

Re: Moving away from CA-PDSMAN

2010-03-16 Thread Stocker, Herman
Duane, Have you looked at the ISPF "REFLIST" feature? It sounds like just what you are looking for. Regards, Herman Stocker It is impossible to make anything foolproof, because fools are so ingenious. -- Robert Heinlein -Original Message- We are trying to move away from CA-PDSMAN.

Re: SMP/E datasets question

2010-03-16 Thread Rabbe, Luke
I'm not determined to break the rules. I've already broken them and I want to fix it. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 9:12 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: SMP/E datase

Re: SMP/E datasets question

2010-03-16 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:59:58 -0500, Rabbe, Luke wrote: >The two zones are different levels of the same product. My technique is to >apply PTFs to the test zone and after they've tested out, apply the same PTFs >to the production zone. Most of the time the two zones have the same >maintenance

Re: SMP/E datasets question

2010-03-16 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:59:58 -0500, Rabbe, Luke wrote: >The two zones are different levels of the same product. My technique is to apply PTFs to the test zone and after they've tested out, apply the same PTFs to the production zone. Most of the time the two zones have the same maintenance appli

Moving away from CA-PDSMAN

2010-03-16 Thread Duane Weaver
We are trying to move away from CA-PDSMAN. One feature that our few remaining users like, is the Easyedit feature of a list files that the user commonly edits. Has anyone else moved away from PDSMAN and how did you handle that feature? Is there REXX exec out there that will save a list of

Re: logical swapping in z/os 1.9

2010-03-16 Thread McKown, John
I'm no expert, but I am fairly sure that "swapped out and ready to run" is more due to lack of CPU resource, or some sort of WLM problem than a problem due to swapping. -- John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets(r) 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills

logical swapping in z/os 1.9

2010-03-16 Thread Pawel Leszczynski
Hello everybody, Recently, when I was looking at RMF monitor III reports during End of Day processing I have noticed (from time to time) following delays: Job: WMJPXSR0 Primary delay: Swapped out and ready to run. Probable cause:

Re: SMP/E datasets question

2010-03-16 Thread Rabbe, Luke
The two zones are different levels of the same product. My technique is to apply PTFs to the test zone and after they've tested out, apply the same PTFs to the production zone. Most of the time the two zones have the same maintenance applied. Luke -Original Message- From: IBM Mainfra

Re: SMP/E datasets question

2010-03-16 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:31:32 -0500, Rabbe, Luke wrote: >Luckily this isn't z/OS. It's a couple 3rd party products. I do apply to both target zones. > >The only library with members is SCDS. Does that mean that I'm only potentially in trouble if I need to do a RESTORE? > It depends. You still

Re: SMP/E datasets question

2010-03-16 Thread Rabbe, Luke
Luckily this isn't z/OS. It's a couple 3rd party products. I do apply to both target zones. The only library with members is SCDS. Does that mean that I'm only potentially in trouble if I need to do a RESTORE? Luke -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m

Tivoli Advanced Backup and Rcovery for z/OS with CA-DISK

2010-03-16 Thread Arye Shemer
Hello forumers, Has anyone experienced with Tivoli ABAR for z/OS and CA-DISK and willing to share with me his insights? Thanks, Arye Shemer. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists

Re: Yet another mixed case question

2010-03-16 Thread Peter Relson
>At the very least there should be a C/C++ PARM= or #pragma option (NOT one >of the LE "slash" options) to disable this behavior. Yes, something along that line is the right answer. TSO/E has no control over the behavior of the call-target application. TSO/E passed the data the way that the use

SV: SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN

2010-03-16 Thread Thomas Berg
> -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] För > Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) > Skickat: den 14 mars 2010 07:20 > Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Ämne: Re: SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN > > In <45d79eacefba9b428e3d400e924d36b903336

Re: SDSF DOC for USER -- NOT SYSPROG/SEC ADMIN

2010-03-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <58fc7f986fcb804286e23b59decf420fc2a...@nwt-s-mbx1.rocketsoftware.com>, on 03/14/2010 at 05:36 PM, Bob Shannon said: >>IBM's position seems to be that you can hit PFK1, so why do you need a manual >It's the OS/2 mentality. ITYM windows mentality; OS/2 has *both* manuals and help files.

Re: Real CPU Id

2010-03-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4b9e4304.2080...@valley.net>, on 03/15/2010 at 10:24 AM, Gerhard Postpischil said: >I have mixed feelings about that. When maintaining software, that's >great, but as a stockholder I can't wonder how much money IBM loses due >to that policy. My guess is none. Specifically, my guess is t

Re: SMP/E datasets question

2010-03-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 03/15/2010 at 11:29 AM, "Rabbe, Luke" said: >The SMP/E User's Guide states: >...each SCDS is directly related to a specific target zone, and each >target zone must have its own SCDS. >It also says this about the MTS, STS, and LTS. >Why is that? Because an element name might exist i

Re: What was the historical price of a P/390?

2010-03-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 03/14/2010 at 11:11 AM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler said: >with fiber channel transfer speeds ... at the time when there was >struggles to get mainframe disks at escon speeds. PC's may have the speed edge for an individual I/O, but how does a fast PC I/O stack up against 100's of concurrent m

Re: Real CPU Id

2010-03-16 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 03/15/2010 at 11:08 AM, Paul Gilmartin said: >How many vendors might a customer need to call to get >running on a Disaster Recovery site? Are the DR CPUs >pre-keyed? And do the pre-issued keys work? When the pre-issued keys don't work *and* the vendor misses the guarantied response t

Re: Topic Deviation yes/no game (was: Real CPU Id)

2010-03-16 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Yes, it does. (no, it does't, yes it does...) And so we can continue the game safely and without bothering readers that are not interested in this branch-off of the CPU Id topic. Kees. "Shane Ginnane" wrote in message news:<1268732667.4b9f52fb3e...@postoffice.tpg.com.au>... > On this list ???. >

Re: Real CPU Id

2010-03-16 Thread Shane Ginnane
On this list ???. Surely not. Shane ... On Tue, Mar 16th, 2010 at 8:26 PM, "R.S." wrote: ... > BTW: This thread deviates from the topic. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@b

Re: Real CPU Id

2010-03-16 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
"R.S." wrote in message news:<4b9f4eaa.5060...@bremultibank.com.pl>... > > BTW: This thread deviates from the topic. > > -- > Radoslaw Skorupka Excellent remark and well in time. We should pay more attention to this. Kees. ***

Re: Real CPU Id

2010-03-16 Thread R.S.
Paul Gilmartin pisze: [...] Gossip, unsubstantiated: Several years ago when some music publishers experimented with copy-protected CDs, they observed lower sales for the protected CDs than for the unprotected. The truth, confirmed: 1. SONY issued protected CDs with dedicated application allowin

Re: Real CPU Id

2010-03-16 Thread Ed Gould
-SNIP--- > In the early 1990s, a company with datacenters in multiple > locations had a > popular piece of software I was working on. They had paid > for it in one > locatio