Re: z196 sysplex question

2010-08-20 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 16:01 -0700, Norman Hollander on DesertWiz wrote: > I seem to remember all 80 was available after 1.11. > Although why you would ever want to do that, and give up > all those MIPS to the MP effect, is beyond me... Wot like LSPR says ... 701 - 150 MSUs 780 - 6140 MSUs I'll

Re: z196 sysplex question

2010-08-20 Thread Norman Hollander on DesertWiz
I didn't have to check the Technical Guide; but I seem to remember all 80 was available after 1.11. Although why you would ever want to do that, and give up all those MIPS to the MP effect, is beyond me... zNorman -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@ba

Re: z196 sysplex question

2010-08-20 Thread Don Deese
From the PR/SM Planning Guide (SB-7155) Maximum number of central processors The maximum number of CPs that can be defined depends on: v The number of CPs that are available. The maximum number of logical CPs available for definition in a single LP is the total number of CPs achievable via con

Re: z196 sysplex question

2010-08-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:31:30 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: >Mark Zelden wrote: >> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:51:42 -0600, Steve Comstock >> wrote: >> >>> Now that the z196 provides us with a CEC with up to 80 >>> processors, and since a Parallel Sysplex can include >>> up to 32 systems, does that mea

Well duh! Regarding 2048 CP's per SYSPLEX

2010-08-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
My bad. I forgot the 64 CP limit per LPAR when I responded. Sorry. But, I'm still curious about the largest SYSPLEX out there. - I'm a SuperHero with neither powers, nor motivation! Kimota! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff /

Re: z196 sysplex question

2010-08-20 Thread Steve Comstock
Mark Zelden wrote: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:51:42 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: Now that the z196 provides us with a CEC with up to 80 processors, and since a Parallel Sysplex can include up to 32 systems, does that mean that Parallel Sysplex now supports 32 x 80 = 2560 active CPs, or are we stil

Re: z196 sysplex question

2010-08-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:51:42 -0600, Steve Comstock wrote: >Now that the z196 provides us with a CEC with up to 80 >processors, and since a Parallel Sysplex can include >up to 32 systems, does that mean that Parallel Sysplex >now supports 32 x 80 = 2560 active CPs, or are we still >software bound

Re: z196 sysplex question

2010-08-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Parallel Sysplex can include up to 32 systems, does that mean that Parallel Sysplex now supports 32 x 80 = 2560 active CPs, or are we still software bound to 2048 CPs per Parallel Sysplex? Does anybody need that many, yet? I'd love to know (academic interest) how big (CP's) the largest SYSPLEX i

z196 sysplex question

2010-08-20 Thread Steve Comstock
Now that the z196 provides us with a CEC with up to 80 processors, and since a Parallel Sysplex can include up to 32 systems, does that mean that Parallel Sysplex now supports 32 x 80 = 2560 active CPs, or are we still software bound to 2048 CPs per Parallel Sysplex? -- Kind regards, -Steve Co

Re: Heads Up: JES2 A PAR OA3255 1 "Undisco vered Tole ration" &# 8207;‏

2010-08-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>should be a very short interval indeed, one of some few hours, not one of days >or weeks. In your dreams! We've been lucky to get one IPL of one LPAR a month. >Toleration schemes, which attempt to make the non-incidental compresence of >two versions of some component in the same MAS possibl

Re: JES2 Source exits required for EXITS 02 46 & 47

2010-08-20 Thread Lizette Koehler
Domenic The sample code should be in SYS1.SHASSAMP probably a member name like HASX Lizette "Cifani, Domenic Wrote >Hello > > I looking for the IBM source code for the following exits, 2, 46 and 47. I > need to add the following code change, can someone assist with the location > and how

Re: Heads Up: JES2 APAR OA32551 "Undiscovered Toleration"

2010-08-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>In my judgment anyway, the presence of even two and certainly of three >different levels of JES2 in the same MAS is 1) avoidable and 2) desirably >avoided without compromising 24/7 availability, etc., etc. I disagree. Especially in a large shop, with multiple LPARS in the same SYSPLEX/MAS. You

JES2 Source exits required for EXITS 02 46 & 47

2010-08-20 Thread Cifani, Domenic
Hello I looking for the IBM source code for the following exits, 2, 46 and 47. I need to add the following code change, can someone assist with the location and how to add this logic? o Installs JES2 Exits 2, 46 and 47 plus User Control Blocks $NJHI and $JCT o During Jobcard vali

Re: Heads Up: JES2 A PAR OA3255 1 "Undisco vered Tole ration" &# 8207;‏

2010-08-20 Thread john gilmore
Tom Marchant wrote: > Thanks for the clarification, John. When I read your previous comment: >> the presence of even two and certainly of three different >> levels of JES2 in the same MAS is 1) avoidable and 2) desirably >> avoided without compromising 24/7 availability > I took that as meani

Re: JES2 Source exits required for EXITS 02 46 & 47

2010-08-20 Thread Cifani, Domenic
Thank you Lizette I found them for some reason I forgot all about that library, it's been awhile Does anyone know how to add the logic to perform that function listed below: Installs JES2 Exits 2, 46 and 47 plus User Control Blocks $NJHI and $JCT During Jobcard validation at

Re: Announcement/FCS dates for IOCP and MVSCP

2010-08-20 Thread Scott Rowe
Yes, I would agree. >>> Joe D'Alessandro 8/20/2010 11:54 AM >>> I recall MVSCP coming into usage with MVS/SP 2.2.0 . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the

Re: Announcement/FCS dates for IOCP and MVSCP

2010-08-20 Thread Joe D'Alessandro
I recall MVSCP coming into usage with MVS/SP 2.2.0 . -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.e

Re: SDSF and z/OS 1.11

2010-08-20 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of John P Kalinich > > -jc- of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on > 08/20/2010 08:39:17 AM: > > > Here's a weird one for you: > > > > We recently upgraded two LPARs from z/OS 1.9 to z/OS 1.11. One of those > >

Re: Heads Up: JES2 APAR OA32551 "U ndiscovere d Tolerati on"‏

2010-08-20 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:57:40 +, john gilmore wrote: >Moreover, conceding its necessity, a set of rolling IPLs in >which version i and version i + 1 of JES2 or whatever are very >briefly compresent in a MAS is not at all the same thing as >their extended concurrent use in that MAS. Thanks f

Heads Up: JES2 APAR OA32551 "U ndiscovere d Tolerati on"‏

2010-08-20 Thread john gilmore
I agree that further discussion would be unproductive. That said, my last post emphasized the importance of sandbox-testing regimes. It did not deprecate them, and I an interpretation of what I wrote as deprecation would be hard to come by on the principles of English syntax. Moreover, conc

Re: SDSF and z/OS 1.11

2010-08-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 08:39:17 -0500, Chase, John wrote: >Here's a weird one for you: > >We recently upgraded two LPARs from z/OS 1.9 to z/OS 1.11. One of those >LPARs is our "sandbox", which is pretty well "crippled" (one CPU, 3GiB >central storage, on a z9-BC). My "standard" tn3270 emulation is

Re: Heads Up: JES2 APAR OA32551 "Undiscovered Toleration"

2010-08-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 13:35:15 +, john gilmore wrote: >Mark Zelden wrote: > > >Huh? 3 levels are supported and have been. At least for a short time before the older one goes unsupported (or if you pay for one of the extended support offerings). How would one ever get a new release into product

Re: SDSF and z/OS 1.11

2010-08-20 Thread Shane
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 08:51 -0500, Staller, Allan wrote: > You might also try this query on the TCP/IP list. Chris Mason, the font > of all Comm Server knowledge usually hangs out over there. Been known to contribute several discourses here as well. I'm sure he'll contribute should he feel he has

Re: SDSF and z/OS 1.11

2010-08-20 Thread John P Kalinich
-jc- of the IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 08/20/2010 08:39:17 AM: > Here's a weird one for you: > > We recently upgraded two LPARs from z/OS 1.9 to z/OS 1.11. One of those > LPARs is our "sandbox", which is pretty well "crippled" (one CPU, 3GiB > central storage, on a z9-BC). My "stand

Re: SDSF and z/OS 1.11

2010-08-20 Thread Staller, Allan
TCP/IP default's? TN/3270 defaults? Unformatted Systems Services? DLOGMODE in VTAM? SDSF bug? Does the 62x160 display work for other than SDSF? You might also try this query on the TCP/IP list. Chris Mason, the font of all Comm Server knowledge usually hangs out over there. HTH, We recently u

Re: Heads Up: JES2 APAR OA32551 "Undiscovered Toleration"

2010-08-20 Thread Bob Shannon
>In my judgment anyway, the presence of even two and certainly of three >different levels of >JES2 in the same MAS is 1) avoidable and 2) desirably >avoided without compromising 24/7 >availability, etc., etc. I would prefer to run all JES's at the same level, but agree with Mark that unless one

Re: Esoterics

2010-08-20 Thread Mike Wood
One way round the 'esoterics' problem for catalog entries is to implement a system managed MTL. All your tape volume mountable on the tape drives in your MTL would be in the TCDB, and those entries, rather than the catalog device type would be used for allocation. MTL implementation does require a

Re: Heads Up: JES2 APAR OA32551 "Undiscovered Toleration"

2010-08-20 Thread john gilmore
Mark Zelden wrote: Huh? 3 levels are supported and have been. At least for a short time before the older one goes unsupported (or if you pay for one of the extended support offerings). How would one ever get a new release into production via rolling IPLs if it weren't (ever hear of parallel s

SDSF and z/OS 1.11

2010-08-20 Thread Chase, John
Here's a weird one for you: We recently upgraded two LPARs from z/OS 1.9 to z/OS 1.11. One of those LPARs is our "sandbox", which is pretty well "crippled" (one CPU, 3GiB central storage, on a z9-BC). My "standard" tn3270 emulation is the 3290 screen size (62x160), and I specify LOGMODE(D4C32XX3

Re: Esoterics

2010-08-20 Thread Mueller, David
Greg, All the answers so far have mainly focused on the IOCDS and hardware. Your other concern is with the order of the esoteric. I do not know of any way of discovering the original order (there may be one). But, even if an esoteric was used for the UNIT, if the dataset was cat

Please explore CBT Tape File 830 - Xephon MVS articles

2010-08-20 Thread Sam Golob
Hi Folks, CBT Tape File 830 contains 926 articles (with their code, as an EBCDIC pds) from Xephon's MVS Update magazines, ranging from July 1987 thru December 1996. The material covered is very wide-ranging, and it is very possible to search for coding examples there. Xephon does not pu

Re: Esoterics

2010-08-20 Thread Clark, David
One thing to be aware of is that this will stop you from making changes dynamically. On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Craig Pace wrote: > Greg, > > The IODF has two parts, the "Hardware" and the "Software". The hardware > part of the IODF (IOCDS) is what is known to the CPC, what LPAR, if an

Re: Esoterics

2010-08-20 Thread Craig Pace
Greg, The IODF has two parts, the "Hardware" and the "Software". The hardware part of the IODF (IOCDS) is what is known to the CPC, what LPAR, if any, has access, etc. The software part of the IODF is what is defined and IPL at the LPAR or system level. This is where each I/O device is defin

out of the office

2010-08-20 Thread Steve Schwaller
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Re: simple JCL question

2010-08-20 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 02:13:54 +, john gilmore wrote: > >Downward/backward compatibility does not preclude the the elimination of >objectionable requirements. I have not put a continuation character in column >72 of a continued-from JCL-statement card image since before some of you were >born