Re: SPF in 1978

2011-12-24 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#106 SPF in 1978 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#107 SPF in 1978 I had originally done extended sharing on cp67 along with paged-mapped CMS filesystem ... which I then converted to vm370 ... some old email http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2006v.html#emai

Re: Eight-character TSO Userid Support

2011-12-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 19:19:34 -0500, zMan wrote: >Yeah, I see the case for 8-character consistency since TSO seems to be >the weirdo here, but I'm hard-pressed (much as I'd like to see it) to >find a case for changing the other areas. It ain't broke... > Hmmm. How many upper-case alphanumeric cha

Re: Eight-character TSO Userid Support

2011-12-24 Thread zMan
Yeah, I see the case for 8-character consistency since TSO seems to be the weirdo here, but I'm hard-pressed (much as I'd like to see it) to find a case for changing the other areas. It ain't broke... On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Clark Morris wrote: > While I agree that the control block (and

Re: Eight-character TSO Userid Support

2011-12-24 Thread Clark Morris
On 24 Dec 2011 14:44:22 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote: >In <4ef583a2.1080...@phoenixsoftware.com>, on 12/23/2011 > at 11:47 PM, Edward Jaffe said: > >>I am curious: is TSO the only hold-out? > >For 7 character userids, probably. However, there are two related >issues that are global

Re: Eight-character TSO Userid Support

2011-12-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 17:25:29 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: > > 1. The current limit of userids to 8 characters is equally >obsolescent. > > 2. The limitation of DSN components no longer makes sense, now > that IBM has put a stake through the heart of CVOL's. > I understand from di

Re: Eight-character TSO Userid Support

2011-12-24 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <4ef583a2.1080...@phoenixsoftware.com>, on 12/23/2011 at 11:47 PM, Edward Jaffe said: >I am curious: is TSO the only hold-out? For 7 character userids, probably. However, there are two related issues that are global: 1. The current limit of userids to 8 characters is equally obsolesc

Re: SPF timeline?

2011-12-24 Thread Ed Gould
Benyamin: It was later explained to me that SPF was written at a woman's undergarment (Bra?) place in Chicago by I think an IBM person (or group). My mind is complete blank as to its name. Whoever came up with structured program facility was short sighted IMO. The immediate use might have

Re: SPF timeline?

2011-12-24 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 18:00:22 -0600 Ed Gould wrote: :>I think you are about right on the time line. I do remember the two :>separate products. We had look at ISPF (we had gone FSE instead). :>Our IBMers at the time went AWOL and I could never get a good :>explanation between the two products.

Re: Eight-character TSO Userid Support:

2011-12-24 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 24 Dec 2011 09:45:12 -0500, John Gilmore wrote: >Edward Jaffe wrote > > >Recently, the need for eight-character TSO userids made it into the >list of the highest ranked MVS SHARE requirements. Many installations, >driven by their business units, are attempting to standardize on a >single,

Re: Tapeless Solutions

2011-12-24 Thread Russell Witt
Not true at all. CA-Vtape can optionally use "open system" storage, but it is not required. If you want to go directly from MF DASD/CACHE to tape - that is an option. Actually, there was a presentation (panel-type) at the SHARE in Orlando where we had a short 7-minute presentation from each of

ISO updates C standard - The H Open Source: News and Features

2011-12-24 Thread John McKown
A Christmas gift from ISO: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/ISO-updates-C-standard-1400814.html Article has a link to a PDF with the draft standard. http://www.iso.org/iso/iso_catalogue/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=57853 for the real standard. Which costs money to buy. ---

Re: Eight-character TSO Userid Support:

2011-12-24 Thread John Gilmore
Edward Jaffe wrote Recently, the need for eight-character TSO userids made it into the list of the highest ranked MVS SHARE requirements. Many installations, driven by their business units, are attempting to standardize on a single, eight-character, cross-platform userid. These attempts are being

Re: Tapeless Solutions

2011-12-24 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2011-12-24 10:50, Tommy Tsui pisze: It seems the only choice for enterprise tapeless solution is only vsm or 7720, anyone will consider bustech or ca-tape software solution what is pros and cons Well, I never said that. BusTech MDL is also a choice, as well as Luminex product or Interkom

Re: Tapeless Solutions

2011-12-24 Thread Tommy Tsui
It seems the only choice for enterprise tapeless solution is only vsm or 7720, anyone will consider bustech or ca-tape software solution what is pros and cons On 2011-12-24 上午8:52, "R.S." wrote: > W dniu 2011-12-23 20:44, Cosby, Bob - OCFO pisze: > >> At the time of this tape implementation we w

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