On 16 Jul 2007 07:03:03 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Even with PCs, the old standard measurements of processor speed are no
longer the selling points that they used to be. There are too many
variables that effect general performance.
I think, however, that it is fair to say
On 12 Jul 2007 19:04:57 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
How do you delete a dataset that has a invalid dataset name? I have one
with a 2lq that has 9 characters? Don't ask me how it got there.
JCL, surrounded by apostrophes; specify UNIT and VOL (presumably it's
not catalogued).
On 12 Jul 2007 05:50:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have traditionally agreed with this viewpoint as well. There is simply
too much information to be able to memorize it all accurately. The ability
to research, find information, draw conclusions, etc is much more important
in the long run
On 12 Jul 2007 08:57:59 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
One guy complained to his Father about not being able to use a
calculator and Daddy called me and proceeded to try his hardest to melt
the phone wires. When I finally got his attention, I suggested he have
the kid make change
On 12 Jul 2007 10:07:31 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
I once had a Pickett N-20 (or N-28?), a Cadillac among slide rules.
All I have left now is an E6B.
I have a Post Versalog in front of me right now (at my computer at
work) - in case the computer goes down.But it's very hard
On 12 Jul 2007 10:07:31 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
What appears to be missing in public edjamacation these days is
teaching *how* to think, and *how* to learn.
Most all education throughout history has had this same lack. Rote
used to be even a bigger part of education.
On 12 Jul 2007 11:16:07 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
As an appropriate example, learning how to program a computer
involves both rote memorization and synthetic thinking. Vocabulary
and grammar can be learned separately, of course, but how much better
it is to USE the components
On 12 Jul 2007 12:59:04 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
I thought one of the reasons why IBM came up with AVGREC and the
other new SMS allocation parameters was to get rid of the idea of
tracks and cylinders concept. I went on the band wagon years ago to
change over. I was
On 12 Jul 2007 13:10:59 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Is that the one where they want to replace expensive computer pilots
with cheaper human ones after teaching them the lost arts of writing
numbers and arithmetic?
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On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 07:22:15 -, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you
wrote:
all of us can discuss about all possible erors in db2,cics
Check out the footing in these messages to join the listserv. While
we can post to the copy of these messages in newsgroups, not everybody
here reads those
On 28 Jun 2007 07:09:30 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shane) wrote:
As a developer, I wish I could wave a magic wand and turn every old
ESA/390 architecture box into a shiny new System z.
You on commission for the increased software licenses that would likely
ensue Ed ???.
As Tom said, customers
On 28 Jun 2007 07:52:28 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Any experienced mainframe software developer will confirm that the
amount of baggage being carried around in commercial software products
to accommodate old technology is staggering. Being constantly pulled in
two directions,
On 28 Jun 2007 09:11:10 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is annoying about replacing the mainframes is that they are, after 5+
yrs, as well-running (good) as the day they were delivered -- merely
obsolete with respect to the software.
If the power and footprint costs aren't excessive, they
On 28 Jun 2007 09:38:43 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
LONG ago, a Chicago firm bought 3033 CPU's on a ten-year lease. The
resulting shake-up in senior management left scars that are still
visible today. The volcano erupted two years into the lease and is
still smouldering to
On 28 Jun 2007 09:43:30 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL)
wrote:
The 'old' computer was an ES/9021-RX2.
It had started out as a 3090.
The replacement was a 9672-R64 (circa 199?).
It's still on the floor (I no longer am) as a z/900 (unsupported).
I haven't been there for over four years,
On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:39:38 -0400, Walter Bushell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Sloppy OSen make for sloppy application programmers, there is no reason
to make your application very much better than the OS, because that will
not improve user experience much.
True - but there is an upside. For
On 27 Jun 07 10:15:50 -0800, Charlie Gibbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Few monitors of the time did display all colours correctly. A friend's
criterion was to check whether it would display a proper brown. Most of
them came out red.
TV companies have found that most customers would rather buy TVs
On Tue, 26 Jun 07 09:19:03 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If they were using illegal calls or instructions, then the OS
should have been slapping their little clicks. A large part
of an OS' responsibility is to not allow undefined anythings
to occur. That way future development that does define
On Sun, 24 Jun 07 11:16:37 GMT, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
We may moan about Microsoft today, but compared to the vendors of
the early eighties they are pusscats.
They have the power to make such a mess that everybody who doesn't
use the gear will also be affected.
I suspect some of
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:04:14 -0500, Peter Flass
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not can't, *won't*. By breaking stuff every release they force people
to upgrade all their software without having to make any improvements
that would make people want to upgrade. It's a money fountain, they
don't want
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:37:25 -0400, Roland Hutchinson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You are absolutely right! That's why I make sure that when I have
visitors they can see, usually, four computers, *none* of them running
Windows. That way at least a _few_ people get exposed to alternatives :-)
On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 14:50:10 +0100, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you
wrote:
I don't think unix in any flavour is the answer for those that want
turnkey appliances.
Businesses do buy turnkey appliances in Unix. And one particular
flavor of Unix (OS-X) has quite a few applications that are
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 13:25:28 +0200, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you
wrote:
They violated some of the most important design rules to make themselves
a monopolist.
Possibly. But as the line goes: Never ascribe to malice, that
which can be explained by incompetence.
Now those violations come back
On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 23:22:51 -0400, Walter Bushell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
But turkeys survive quite nicely in the wild. Not chickens.
Among other things both have been breed for stupidity. I think there are
still wild turkeys, and ancestors of our modern chickens in the wild.
Tom turkeys
One of the more interesting PCs was the very expensive Heathkit that
came as a kit. I wonder what the marked was for it.
My sister had an Amiga for years. I had an Atari 800 which had such
advancements as lower case letters!
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 09:14:15 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My sister had an Amiga for years. I had an Atari 800 which had such
advancements as lower case letters!
Oh, my second floppy driver for the Atari was a Z-80 powered drive
with 64K of RAM. Besides working quite well, I was able to
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:03:05 -0600, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you
wrote:
and/or corporate marketing ... majority of the people in the period ...
didn't understand what personal computing and/or PC software actually
met ... marketing such abstractions would have little meaning
(sufficient
On 21 Jun 2007 05:18:37 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Staller, Allan)
wrote:
LOL,
To carry this argument to it's logical conclusion, each application
would have it's own OS
We have been redefining OS, application, and programming language and
will continue to do so.
Java is a type of
On 21 Jun 2007 09:11:31 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
To carry this argument to it's logical conclusion, each application
would have it's own OS
It would be better to say that each application would have to include much
of the operating suystem function within it.
That would
On 21 Jun 2007 10:13:22 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Was not the basis of VM/CMS to allow each user their own self-contained
operating system?
VM also gives other advantages which could be useful to be copied
here.
On 21 Jun 2007 10:06:12 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Barb, you think these architectures vary a lot.
They don't. They are just about all von Neumann architectures.
Oh yeah, you get differing numbers for memory sizes and addressability
However the new model of distributed
On 21 Jun 2007 12:48:37 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
doesn't IBM know the mainframe is going away?
Information Week doesn't
http://informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=0YNKME2DKJAVYQSNDLRSKHSCJUNN2JVN?articleID=199906025
On Tue, 19 Jun 07 10:42:55 GMT, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
When? I never considered IBM world and its batch environment
timesharing. Timesharing does not do large data processing tasks
well; and it's not supposed to.
For various values of timesharing.
H. Ross Perot thought
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:48:45 +0100, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you
wrote:
Right here is the heart of the reason that it is not reasonable to
expect there to be one true OS for all. Why bend over backwards trying to
be all things to all men when it is simpler to have different OSs tuned for
On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:05:32 -0500, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you
wrote:
Then I saw the price, shuddered, and quickly came back to reality.
A couple of years later I saw a Macintosh at a fraction of the price;
but once again it was WAY out of my budget.
Recently there have been a series of
On 18 Jun 2007 07:32:06 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Knutson, Sam)
wrote:
First IBMLink and now CA- SupportConnect too it seems the Gremlins are working
overtime.
Who was the airline president who said that if the customers saw dirty
ashtrays, they assumed the engines weren't safe?
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 21:22:24 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you
wrote:
Microsoft Windows dominates the world today for the same reason - it's
the _de facto_ standard for which you have the best chance of getting
software. But it only became a success in the beginning because it
*did* offer
On 18 Jun 2007 11:18:55 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
We were informed by CA that the problem has to do with some algorithm
they use to compress the last date accessed. It is date specific.
They next time it would occur if not fixed is January 6, 2007. Wasn't
the compression of
On 18 Jun 2007 11:48:38 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
How many bought PCs without Windows and then decided to buy Windows?
Or even who bought PCs without DOS and then decided to buy DOS?
SNIP
Better yet, try to buy a NAME computer that doesn't have an O/S, or has
Linux (any
On 18 Jun 2007 12:40:27 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
To the patent issue: Patents are OK as long as they are for new
technical development and not business processes.
IMHO, patents are desirable only to the extent that USPTO is familiar
with prior art and able to recognize what is
New E-week article
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2147500,00.asp?kc=EWKNLEIA061807FEA
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On Thu, 14 Jun 2007 09:09:18 -0600, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you
wrote:
Researchers at Intel are working on ways to mask the intricate
functionality of massive multicore chips to make it easier for computer
makers and software developers to adapt to them, said Jerry Bautista,
co-director of
On 14 Jun 2007 09:58:46 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
By 'expanding the market', I was referring to the context of
the original post - which was essentially about opportunities for
entrepreneurs, not about end users. I simply cannot see how anyone,
anywhere, in any position can
On 13 Jun 2007 11:03:32 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
That's because you bought into the linguistic aspects of geometry and math.
That's a particular axiomatic consequence of math in the 20th century.
I suppose parallel is a misleading word, as parallel lines never
converge.
We
On 13 Jun 2007 11:22:36 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
No offense, but if I am
going to write a linux product, I can spend less than a thousand dollars
US and get a dual core intel box and put Fedora linux on it, and I can
start writing it. Why would I give a hoot about running it on
On 13 Jun 2007 13:21:46 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Easy to say get rid of VTAM, but much harder to do. Would you just
trade your 3270 emulator for a web page interface? Then it might be
something you could do.
???
My terminal emulators (I use a couple) already speak TCP/IP
On Mon, 11 Jun 07 11:27:48 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is getting really interesting. I'm beginning to understand
why history has to repeat itself. People can't tolerate that
the new thing isn't new. For some reason, they must think
it will take away from their glory of doing it first.
On 11 Jun 2007 08:16:46 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clem Clarke)
wrote:
All good ideas come from a single individual,
What's his name?
and by constantly putting roadblocks in their paths, progress stops.
Lots of good ideas have been created by teams. And lots of patents
and copy rites are
On 11 Jun 2007 08:27:26 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
I happen to agree with everything you said, but sadly common sense
usually isn't common anymore.
You're implying it was once common.
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On 7 Jun 2007 10:37:53 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John)
wrote:
Some instructions on the zSeries are patent protected. That means that
writing any code or making any hardware which has an identical effect,
regardless of how it is done, can only be legally done if the
person/company doing
On 6 Jun 2007 10:15:27 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
I also agree with S.Metz that USS is an abreviation, not an acronym.
:-)
I wonder - I guess for some of us, CICS is an abbreviation, for others
an acronym.(I never say kicks).
On 5 Jun 2007 17:49:48 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
If your cow had wheels she'd be a milk truck. The point is that not
everybody knows what you means, because there are contexts in which
you need to refer to both Unix System Services *and* to Unformatted
System Services; what you
On 5 Jun 2007 14:35:42 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
Just because GOOGLE can find it does not mean you can view it without your
SHARE userid. And if you can, something is broken because you should need
to sign in.
How did Google view it without a SHARE ID?
On 6 Jun 2007 11:10:52 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
* An initialism is a type of abbreviation pronounced one letter
at a time. For instance, PGA, AARP, IOU, etc.
* An acronym is a type of abbreviation that is pronounced as a
word. For instance, SCUBA, LASER, PUSH,
On 1 Jun 2007 17:13:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Leahy)
wrote:
I suggest you post this question on the MVSHELP board. This list is more of
a systems programmers' forum.
I did a search for MVSHELP in my provider's list of newsgroup without
finding it.
On 2 Jun 2007 18:02:37 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
I don't know about Opera, but IE is far from standards compliant. In
some ways a web interface has more portability issues than the WSA
approach, and would give worse performance. I'd prefer that IBM offer
it as an option, if at
On 1 Jun 2007 16:57:28 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The egg may have hatched a chicken buy was it a 'chicken egg' ?
Assuming of course that the question is which came first the chicken or
the chicken egg. If you use the more generic egg with no requirement
for it to be a chicken egg then one
On 4 Jun 2007 08:31:17 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Brown) wrote:
http://mvshelp.net/vbforums/
Thanks. I guess GUI forums are the wave of the present. But they
certainly are much slower and clumsier than text forums. Great for
people with extra time, and an irritation for the rest of
On 4 Jun 2007 09:42:26 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
[1] With all this talk of dinosaurs being associated with the mainframe,
I'm reminded of the other Richard Leakey book I have: The Sixth
Extinction. Will the mainframe be included in the rapid disappearance of
species?
I'm
On 4 Jun 2007 13:24:35 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
I did a search for MVSHELP in my provider's list of newsgroup without
finding it.
Well, IBM-MAIN isn't a news group either. Check the list of listsaerv
names and see whether MVSHELP is there.
My provider shows
On 4 Jun 2007 13:25:59 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
That said, I have corresponded with web masters who claim that there
is no reason for them to switch from IE, as virtually everybody who
uses their web pages uses IE
I'd be willing to bet that their numbers are wrong. There are
On 1 Jun 2007 05:32:07 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
I want to move a value '00280' to a field in a VSAM file.
The field is defined as PIC S9(05) COMP-3.
How can this be done using EZtrieve??
I haven't used EZtrieve for VSAM files, but EZtrieve supports KSDS,
ESDS, RRDS.
Packed
On 1 Jun 2007 08:02:03 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
I haven't used EZtrieve for VSAM files, but EZtrieve supports KSDS,
ESDS, RRDS.
What are you saying? KSDS, ESDS, and RRDS are VSAM files.
I'm saying I haven't used them, but they are supported. I worded it
in a gentle
On 1 Jun 2007 10:28:53 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
But what about TSO? Does anybody think that TSO might be some how
extended so that it can natively talk to something like a Web
browser? Or is such a thing even necessary? What about the possibility
of decoupling ISPF from TSO 3270
On 1 Jun 2007 11:47:34 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
us greybeards, all too soon to be whitebeards, are
the only teachers left to pass on these skills
My current colleagues and I affectionately refer to each other as
silverbacks. :-)
If I look at my beard the right way, I
On 29 May 2007 14:13:27 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric
Spencer) wrote:
Since this discussion
has been going on for over three decades with little progress in terms
of widespread change, one has to ask: is parallel programming just too
difficult for most programmers? Are the tools inadequate or
On 25 May 2007 16:22:30 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel
Metz , Seymour J.) wrote:
And I suggest dropping all PC's running windoze from a high building;
My wife's Mac runs Windows under Parallels - because there are some
programs unavailable elsewhere, and she's not Righteous about her
operating
On 23 May 2007 14:11:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Poitras)
wrote:
ditto
Howard Brazee wrote:
Top posting because it appears that this post was an example of one
sent directly to Usenet - where I would expect Darren to miss it.
Interesting. I see this post is to:ibm-main@bama.ua.edu
(I
On Thu, 24 May 2007 08:53:09 -0600, Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Interesting. I see this post is to:ibm-main@bama.ua.edu
(I have Forte Agent set to do this with my replies). I wonder why
the signature doesn't get added.
I changed my perona, let me see if that works
On 24 May 2007 11:24:47 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur T.) wrote:
Similarly, I was very interested in the Science
Fiction Museum which opened a couple of years back. Just
before it opened, it spammed the SF community (but missed
me). By publicizing that, the SF community warned me
On 23 May 2007 12:13:07 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fletcher,
Kevin) wrote:
We had a similar problem, but this was cobol and S0C4. The program would
run fine on one system and abend on the other (different boxes), then it
would go away and come back (sometimes, not always the same box) after
an
Top posting because it appears that this post was an example of one
sent directly to Usenet - where I would expect Darren to miss it.
On Wed, 23 May 2007 13:04:42 -0400, Arthur T. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
In one day I saw at least two interesting posts which many
people missed. These were
On 23 May 2007 10:14:58 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson,
Steve) wrote:
Congress shall not abridge the right of the people to peacefully
ASSEMBLE [emphasis mine].
So you see, C as a language is a Johnny come lately, the US
Constitution protected the right of Assembly even before there were
On 22 May 2007 06:18:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Zelden)
wrote:
Go into SDSF. Type the command KEYS. Change them to whatever you want and
save. New keys will be stored in the users ISPF Profile dataset.
We're going in circles. The OP was looking for a solution that would
work
On 21 May 2007 10:00:21 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lynd,
Eugene , Contractor, J6C) wrote:
01 CHAR PIC X(4) VALUE 'CHAR'.
is incorrect. When you define a character value
with a length less than 8 you need a trailing blank:
01 CHAR PIC X(5) VALUE 'CHAR '.
Gene Lynd
Why does he
On 21 May 2007 11:02:36 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John)
wrote:
Emulator: Vista tn3270 1.6.
Logmodes: SNX32702, SNX32705, and D4C32XX3.
Hum, I wonder how long before Tom Brennan Software is sued by Microsoft
over the name Vista as causing confusion in the market place? And, if
he
On 21 May 2007 12:33:45 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Wood)
wrote:
The magnetron in my microwave oven cycles at a sub-nanosecond rate. That
does not mean it would be be suitable as a low drift clock source.
Personal computers have had built in clocks forever - but they have
been cheap and
On 21 May 2007 12:22:49 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John)
wrote:
I run Linux at home, not Windows. I use a VPN to get into work. In the
past, I've used x3270 to do 3270 type work. I recently got Crossover
Linux which can run __some__ MS Windows application under Linux. Just
for fun, I tried
On 17 May 2007 14:28:48 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL)
wrote:
However, the issue is that, there is no definitive value of current date.
The issue is more than just current date (and current time is worse).
It all comes down to submission time, conversion time, execution time, or
system
On 18 May 2007 00:14:30 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Bardos)
wrote:
Naive idea: why not provide system symbols for all of these
(submission time, conversion time, execution time)? SYSSTIME,
SYSCTIME, SYSETIME?
With Zulu variations.
Our whole computing infrastructure should migrate to GMT,
On 17 May 2007 13:48:54 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL)
wrote:
Go into SDSF. Type the command KEYS. Change them to whatever you want and
save. New keys will be stored in the users ISPF Profile dataset.
Not a global change, which was what was asked for.
Of course, no change is global
On 18 May 2007 06:25:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
How can I code an assembler program to look at a dataset and determine
if it is an empty dataset? The dataset maybe allocated but not open or
closed.
Why not just do:
//STEP#01 EXEC PGM=ICETOOL
//TOOLMSG DD
On 18 May 2007 09:06:53 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Barkow, Eileen)
wrote:
Would not ICETOOL be opening the dataset to do the count?
The requirement was that the dataset not be opened.
You would probably have to read the vtoc in order to determine if any
space is actually being used.
Good point.
On 18 May 2007 08:04:26 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Zelden)
wrote:
It's not global but I haven't read anyone refer to the KEYLIST command.
SDSF doesn't use keylists.
What is the name for whatever it is in SDSF that acts just like SPF
keylists?
On 18 May 2007 10:50:04 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark H. Young)
wrote:
Howard, where did you find this topic to originate?
Back in April or March perhaps?
I can't seem to backtrack via Previous in Topic up above.
It is in black (not blue) and not selectable.
Can anyone help me out with
Maybe we should ask this over in the Star Trek newsgroup...
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On 17 May 2007 10:57:42 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Comes up repeatedly. First choice is Scheduling PKG, second choice is ISPF
SKELs, more choices include Rexx, CLIST, HLASM to generate JCL and sub to
internal reader.
Is there a place to look at common questions recommendations from
On 17 May 2007 11:01:57 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark H. Young)
wrote:
And Charles André Joseph Marie de Gaulle is *STILL* French.dontchya
know?!
I didn't know he was a Marie. I know of a some (José María)s, and
fewer (Joseph Mary)s.
On 15 May 2007 14:35:16 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John)
wrote:
1) They'll deny it by creative accounting.
This happened at one place that I worked when the PC revolution
was new. The individual departments were responsible for their own PC
workstations and software. Therefore the
On 15 May 2007 08:02:21 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Jacobs)
wrote:
But the lack of these benefits on the cheaper environments usually bites
you in the a** sometime in the future. But by then the people making
these decisions have walked away with their bonuses and leave the
fallout to the
On 15 May 2007 09:05:08 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craddock,
Chris) wrote:
On a slightly off-topic note, there is a large body of evidence that
MOST of the IT budget (75-85%!!) is consumed in just keeping the lights
on. There is almost nothing left over for either new development, or for
On 15 May 2007 11:06:55 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson,
Steve) wrote:
[Side note: my wife retired from a certain Electric Utility. She has a
full Masters (not just an MBA, but she has one of those too). She has
commented to me many times about how the fast trackers in a company
have about 3
On 15 May 2007 10:12:54 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Shannon)
wrote:
The idea of exchanging server heat for building heat is interesting
though.
We did this at Aetna twenty five years ago. The heating system didn't
come on until the outside temperature reached 32 F. Until then all the
heat for
On 11 May 2007 11:31:41 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (john gilmore)
wrote:
I think the only way to know exactly for what CLIP was the acronym is to
ask the original author, whose identity I don't know.
and this is surely true; but the issue is sometimes more complicated. Not
all acronyms are
On Thu, 10 May 2007 07:48:19 -0400, Dan Espen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Take my advice.
Change the CLIST to REXX.
It's not all that hard. There is a rexx equivalent for every CLIST
operation and the bulk of the conversion is rote.
You'll be happy you did.
Rexx is much closer to the type of
On 10 May 2007 09:19:05 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Black)
wrote:
She proposed a certification exam, but she obviously had no concept of
the breadth of specialties among programmers.\
Luckily, cooler heads prevailed and the bill was trashed.
I wonder if anybody in Personnel knows what the
On 10 May 2007 10:52:02 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.S.) wrote:
It still takes a place in Europe. Engineer is a title assigned by technical
univeristy to a graduate.
In Poland (and not only) only government-approved organizations can be named
university
(or polytechnic) and only those schools
On 9 May 2007 10:44:09 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Johnson)
wrote:
Back when I worked at EDS in the mid 80's, they called programmers Systems
Engineers. (SE's)
They even had a program to develop programmers called the SED program. (also
had a OPD
program - Operations Personnel Development)
On 7 May 2007 19:06:18 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Fochtman)
wrote:
We should start by offshoring the CEO's ;-)
unsnip
Then raise their taxes such that the more they make, the less they get
to keep.
So the CEOs get offshored where they
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