Many thx John/Ron.
John, I'm passing this to our CICS sysprogs to see if it's something they can
use.
Ron, Agree that a journal file should be ascending key and be used
sequentially. However, the amount of inserts (2/5ths) seem to point to what I
assume are delayed transactions being
Hi Folks,
I've used VSAM for years and have a pretty good understanding of the way
the CISZ and buffering need to be adjusted depending on the method used to
access the file.
Every file I've had to play with has always had an initial load so enforcing
FSPC hasn't been a problem. I'm now
Hi Folks,
Wondered if any HSM guru's could point me in the right direction..
Is there a report/query/command that will give an overview of the MCDS?
I'm looking for how many datasets in total are stored on ML1 and ML2. We
have various systems that are currently failing to complete PSM
Bearing in mind that XRC was intended for eXtended Remote Copy, what would
be the point of NOT having a datamover at the remote site?
JJ
XRC user
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Hi folks,
wondered if anyone can help me understand some FICON performance issues?
I'm seeing huge DISC times (58 - 70%) for a device on LCU 6571. The manual
says that I can get an good estimate of the MB/SSCH by taking the MB/SEC
from the IOQ activity report and dividing them by the Total
FAO Anyone who's interested
Just been told by IBM that XRC device blocking can be displayed in
different places on different vendor hardware.
IE
HDS show device blocking in DISC time
IBM ESS show it in IOSQ time.
If using write pacing, then it's in DISC time for both HDS and IBM.
Regards,
Hi folks,
Wondered if anyone could give a difinitive answer to where RMF would show
delays caused by XRC device blocking.
Would it be in the DISC time, or the PEND time. Or maybe somewhere else
altogether.
Much appreciated.
JJ
Paolo,
Many thanks again.
I'm currently in a huge argument with the performance team who insist that
XRC device blocking is shown in DISC time. IOSQ time sounds more plausible
as the CU wouldn't reply to a CMR if the device was being actively blocked
so a SSCH wouldn't be issued?
Is this
Bill,
My understanding (could be completely wrong, which is why I'm asking the
question) is
XRC will block a primary volume for a certain amount of time (the time the
device is blocked is dependent on the vendor) if XRC can't keep up with the
records that need to be written to the
Many thanks for that Derrick,
We too have started looking at write pacing as we too are a multi vendor
shop. We have found that HDS boxes only add 0.1 second for device blocking
whereas our sharks add a whole second. We still haven't implemented write
pacing so I guess that means our blocking
Thanks for that Bill, it's certainly filled in a few gaps in my
understanding of PAVs, but I'm still not convinced that is what caused this
sort to run for 6 times it's normal elapsed time. I'm seeing many other
jobs with the same symptoms.
Here's the device activity report
Time S
Many thanks Paolo,
I'll certainly check out the RMF bits and revisit ANTMON.
With XRC in mind, could anyone point me to a description of the LONGBUSY
(I've only been around XRC for 10 weeks). I did look at the ANTMON figures
for the related secondary volume and saw very low consistency delays
Hi folks,
If you suspected FICON Channel saturation due to lack of OE's or Credits
and had no access to ANALFIOE in MXGSAS, where would you look?
I'm seeing a DFSORT that normally runs in 6 minutes take 33 minutes with
the same record counts. It's accessing 1 disk that has an extremely low
John,
I've already checked the device on ANTMON and checked the ANTX messages.
Nothing. The device is online to 7 systems and had zero activity on the
ther 6.
It's highest activity on the system in question was only 38 so it certainly
wasn't a stressed volume. I didn't think the PAV would
Hi folks,
I'm trying to find a full and concise description for the following XRC
informational messages;
ANTX8117/8 - A description of what is happening for JOURNAL, PRIMARY,
SECONDARY and MASTER. I've read the message from messages and codes but
need to understand what each one means for a
Guys,
Thanks for all your help. Have forwarded VSAM def ideas to application
team.
Beginning to think that this may be (as well as bad vsam) the DC. It's
allocating 30 volumes and then only using one. Because this runs at the
beginning of the batch suite, the systems fairly busy, but even
XRC delays.any other ideas.
Regards,
Joe Jeffries
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Well, This is one BATCH job doing a simple REPRO to one VSAM dataset. The
volume is showing
delays of around 98-100% but isn't being accessed by any other system.
Around 240,000 EXCP which took 15 minutes the other night - nearly 2 hours
last night?
What I don't understand is why WLM would
Bob,
Unfortunately not. We have NO tools here at all. I installed CR+ at a
previous site and was well smitten by it (and esp. VSAM Manager which I
found to be brilliant). I'm starting to look at the VSAM definitions but a
straight REPRO would be sequential and if the def's were wrong, I would
Here's the VSAM DEF
DEFINE CLUSTER-
(NAME(..VSAM.xxxTEMP)-
RECSZ(0500 0500)-
BUFFERSPACE(17920) -
KEYS(20 00)-
FSPC(00 05)-
DATACLAS(200cyls) -
SHR(2 3))-
DATA-
(NAME(..VSAM.xxxTEMP.DATA) -
CONTROLINTERVALSIZE(512) -
Hi folks,
Quick question. Can GRS Resource names be specified manually. IE. If a
dataset has the same name on 2 systems in the same sysplex that don't share
catalogs, can the resource name of 1 be changed without changing the
Dataset name? I think they can, my collegue thinks they can't. Who
D'oh! - Thanks Bruce, I'll pay my mate and get on with planning a
workaround.
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Many thks,
Tested the dyn alloc in ISMF - Pointed it to specific SC - Works fine now.
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Hi folks,
We have some log datasets that are delete/defined every night and under SMS
management they can obviously go to any device within the SG. Due to the
high activity rate and their critical availability/response times for
these 'online' datasets, we need to ensure they are del/def to
Thanks guys,
It all comes back eventually. Just need to make sure they're not multivol
as I don't want the primary alloc spread too far.
JJ
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Tom,
We've not had performance problems for the dataset, just the occasional
hiccup when they get allocated to a hot volume which then exceeds the
x'500' threshold in XRC. The primary concern is that XRC doesn't block the
volume so striping would just mean we have to DNB more volumes wouldn't
Tom,
First off, can you point dynamic allocations to a specific SC? - If so I'm
sorted as we already have a particular SG that has every volume set to
DONOTBLOCK. If you can specify SC for dynamic alloc's then I have an SC
that points to this SG.
The problem is, these datasets do require, and
Hi folks,
If you wanted to setup (from scratch) a DASD performance monitor (for RAID)
and you weren't allowed anything but RMF and MXGSAS, what SMF records would
you keep and why?
Thanks for any input,
Joe
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2006 07:49:55 -0500, Mark Zelden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Is this a homework question?
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Er, No.
It's a they sacked their storage performance guy when they installed
2105's as they were told it would solve it's own performance problems and
they believed it
No Mark, this a they sacked their performance guy when they put in 2105's
and their performance team don't DO dasd question
I'd like to say who THEY are but i fear my contract maybe revoked.
PS Is this the mark Zelden of the DINORING fame? or Mark Zeldens MVS page.
Many thanks if
That's good too, I can set PDA=OFF in parmlib rather than PDA=NONE.
Thx,
Joe
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I'm not telling, I'm asking.
Here's your chance to bat for the product of your choice. Assuming Money no
object (well, within reason), what performance monitoring tool would you
install to concentrate on DASD, CHANNEL UTIL, XRC
(Primary/secondary/tertiary), RAID and all things I/O flavoured?
Hi folks,
Just double checking. If PDA=none is set in the hsm parmlib, you can use a
SETSYS PDA(ON) and SETSYS PDA(OFF) to turn it on/off inflight?
Many thx,
Joe
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I never claimed to be able to SPELL in Dutch, I tried extremely hard to
learn the language for 6 months but gave in and put my energies into
freshly brewed Amstel instead.
You obviously haven't heard my German (ich bin eine hamburger!).
JJ
Thanks James, I'll read that over the weekend (what fun). You're quite
right, my knowledge of Malts is less than impressive (I stopped drinking 10
years ago). I thought Glenmorangie WAS extremely peaty. My favorite tipple
back in the day was Black Bush from N.Ireland.
I wouldn't say my RMF
. A large bottle of single malt (or alternative of your
choice) and my undying gratitude is the sweetner(if you are happy to supply
an address). I'm more than happy to ship it anywhere in the world.
Regards,
Joe Jeffries
Shane/Kees,
I'm aware of PAV's/Multiple allegiances etc. and I've read up on what the
ESS can and can't do (it can't cope with XRC device blocking anywhere near
as well as the HDS's for example). As far as I can see, the new boxes do a
lot of the tuning for you but from what I read, it starts
We have PDA(none) set in our HSM parms. I need to send a PDA trace off to
IBM and am having trouble allocating the PDA datasets.
1.3.2.2.1 of hsm impl guide provides the JCL to allocate the logs but
doesn't seem to show whether the datasets will automatically be recognised
due to their naming
Many thx, I'm on it.
JJ
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I've just found a load of GDGs that have been incorrectly setup to
NOSCRATCH instead of SCRATCH and have been quietly accumulating the data
for a number of years.
Having confirmed with the data owner that they should be SCRATCH LIMIT 5
I've ALTERED the bases and DEL / NSCR the thousands of
Many thx - looks like i've got a few recat commands to enter - then delete
At least i was only a few thousand in, out of tens of thousands.
JJ
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Thanks guys, I feel so much better. That's why i couldn't remember the
command, there isn't one.
There are tons of these at our site and they are all left over from many
many moons ago.
IE.
The one in deferred rollin state is G0049V00
whereas the (say) 2 entries are G0934V00 and G0935V00
A fairly easy one?
Can't remember the command to remove the entry from the base but keep the
dataset or, for another example get rid altogether.
Thx in anticipation
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:33:46 -0400, John Kington
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I use IDCAMS alter command to add deferred GDS to the base:
ALTER gdg.name.GVxx ROLLIN
Ok with this one. I need to leave it off.
I use IDCAMS delete command to delete the dataset:
DELETE gdg.name.GVxx
Doesn't
Just to put this one to bed, after all the analysis showed that SSM had
nothing to do, why is the ARC0517I message not issued?
That still points to a problem with secondary space management. We do get
the Primary/Interval messages stating that they have started/ended
successfully. Why no such
Thanks to all for the responses.
1) I've spoken to work and they've allowed me to access this forum as long
as no traceable info is involved (I work for a very large UK Bank and there
are some tough laws about what can and can't be shared (they take the view
that nothing should). At least it
Nice one Rex,
Appendix B shows...
MIGRATED#9474; MIGDS #9474; This is the number of data sets
that
has #9474;
#9474; DS--TRKS#9474; MIGTRKS #9474; been migrated or
deleted from the
volume #9474;
#9474; #9474; #9474;
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Have you run an auditmediacontrols?
HSEND WAIT LIST ML1 at my shop shows lots of dsns out there.
Bob Richards
Hi Bob, sorry it took so long to get back to you, unfortunately my
individual email is blocked from work so i
Space Management suddenly stopped running a few weeks ago
and when I looked at the LIST ML1 output i thought I'd figured out why.
The LIST DSN command appears to shoot this in down in flames.
Any ideas anyone?
Regards,
Joe Jeffries
Hi gang,
Anyone seen this sort of thing before?
DFHSM has suddenly decided to stop running Secondary Space Management for
what appears to be (but never is) no reason at all.
No Changes to system, same release as all the other systems and suddenly
bosch! it decides not to run it. The catalog
Thanks guys. I used VSAM Manager before it was part of CatRec+ and
Installed CatRec+ (way better than Catsol imho) at a previous site. I'll
have a look at the CBT but am actually pleased that there's no easy fix.
I was half expecting someone to point me to a new IDCAMS keyword (it's
been 3
Hi guys,
I wonder if anyone (Mark Thomen at IBM perhaps) can help! At my last site
I used VSAM Manager (from Mainstar?)to look inside a KSDS. I've since
moved companies and my new company hasn't got that product. It was the
only tool I have ever used to look inside. I need to optimise a
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