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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Knutson, Sam) writes:
> You should have the PTFs for z/OS APAR OA17114 installed if you are
> using paged fixed buffers in DB2 V8. Not having it
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Veilleux, Jon L) writes:
> In z/OS 1.8 the memory management is much more conducive to large
> memory. They no longer use the least recently used
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Timothy Sipples) writes:
> An awful lot of modems and serial connections had to handle 7-bit,
> too, complicating the user experience for dial-up
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Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> one of the other issues for TLB (hardware that translates virtual page
> addresses to real page ad
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Samson) writes:
> As for 32-bit mode (TSS) I don't have a POPS for that architecture but
> I suspect the HO bit is treated as any other. TSS did not use the
> "si
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Van Dalsen, Herbie) writes:
> Someone wants to create a shared block of memory CSA/not and share it
> between programs. My understanding is that a 24-bit program can
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) writes:
> That's why there can be a 'double paging' penalty for a LINUX (or
> z/OS, or z/VM, or...).
>
> z/VM, and its predecessors, has always had the capability to defines
> more storage than is on the box.
>
> It even has swap files.
i had other problems with the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Binyamin Dissen) writes:
> Does z/VM use virtual storage?
comment in this thread asking how many times has virtual memory
been reinvented
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007r.html#51 Translation of IBM Basic Assembler to
C?
some footnotes about the science center
http://www.garli
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (McKown, John) writes:
> Just as a thought. Could somebody write a subsystem which starts at IPL
> time, does the shared GETMAIN, then (here's the rub) somehow have that
Steve Samson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The discussion suggests that the "dead zone" represented an arbitrary
> decision. However it is absolutely necessary to preserve compatibility
> with programs dating back to OS/360. If a 24-bit or 31-bit address is
> interpreted as or expanded to a 64-bit
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Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 3277 had quite a bit of local intelligence ... it was possible to do
> s
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"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> If memory hasn't failed me, we read mark sense cards on something that
> was called a
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bbreynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This thread started about the 3277-001 used on a System/3 Model 15
> (would that be a 5415?): as 32
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> What I don't understand is pre sorting a deck that will be used as
> input to the computer--couldn't the compute
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Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> field/col definition for 12-2-9 TXT card:
>
> col
> 1
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I could read ASCII from a paper tape. Took me a while. :-)
previous post in this thread:
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> (For the AS/400 I never could figure the internal code architecture,
> IBM used something called "LIC" that was
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I seem to remember this as TCP/IP version 3.2 with 3.3 having the fixes
> for optimization. Weren't there twin stacks being managed or s
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) writes:
> It's not just z/OS UNIX.
> The first implementation of TCP/IP on OS/390 was a port from VM.
> And, it was a pig until they
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Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The first operational 370 hardware supporting virtual memory was a
> 370/145 engineering pr
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hunkeler Peter , KIUK 3) writes:
> Fixed storage is not only to support diabled users but much more often
> used in the ubiquituos I/O processing
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"Bill Ogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The statements about the 360/67 are correct. It was a little ahead of
> its time in several ways. The 67's DAT design wa
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> This has always intrigued me. What was done to eliminate the
> possibility that the channel had to access a virtual page that had
> been
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hunkeler Peter , KIUK 3) writes:
> OS/360 was a real storage only operating system. DAT was introduced with
> S/370. OS/390 could run on that har
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Choice Overload In Parallel Programming
http://developers.slashdot.org/developers/07/10/03/0021253.shtml
from above:
"And then we show them the parallel programmi
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John P Baker) writes:
> Back in the 80s, we operated under the premise that a seasoned
> programmer should be able to produce 20 lines of bug-fre
re:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007p.html#39 Inda is outsourcing jobs as well
Why Is US Grad School Mainly Non-US Students?
http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/07/09/29/2027210.shtml
from above:
I am a new graduate student in Computer Engineering. I would like to get my
MS and possibly my Ph.
Edward Jaffe wrote:
I have family all over Virginia. "Less developed" is probably a good
thing. It's a beautiful state. Lots of history.
There's something very wrong with and/or not being stated in the premise
here. They probably need people in the United States because things
aren't working
Matthew Stitt wrote:
Because the FBA's and 8809's were boat anchors. And the 3350's and 3420
gave interchangeability with MVS.
With things connected to normal channels the sky was the limit with what
could be done with the 4331. Using the ICA severely limited your devices.
The 3350 and 3420
Raymond Noal wrote:
Dear List:
An IBM 4361 Model Group 5 had the ECPS feature -
Extended Control Program Support (ECPS) -- offers VSE mode, VM/370 mode, and
MVS/370 mode. These modes provide microcode assists that make the system control
programs operate more efficiently.
ECPS was original
Andreas F. Geissbuehler wrote:
It's been done many times before, FREEWARE for STRICTLY PERSONAL USE. It
is proven to sell more licences for commercial use. There is precedence, DB2,
Lotus...
personal computing ... freeware or not ... has always shown to contribute
significantly
to useage inc
Knutson, Sam wrote:
We are a large IMS DC/DB shop and CICS DB2/IMS DBCTL. IMS is still an
order of magnitude more efficient than DB2. That is not saying anything
bad about DB2 it is designed for more flexible data manipulation and
easier development by offloading more business and data handlin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Vijay Kumar) writes:
I am a new comer in the mainframe field. I am learning this technology from an
institute in Singapore.
I have searched the net and not able to find which of the Jes version was
introduced first JES2 or JES3. I know Jes2 was evolved after HASP and Jes3
w
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Zelden) writes:
> Then you switch back. ;-) There are actually a lot of companies that
> seem to work that way. That's what happens when bean counters make
> the decisions and don't consider the human aspects (time, training etc.)
this is related to the original justif
George McAliley wrote:
All IBM 3490's on mainframes were either Block MPX channel (bus/tag) or
ESCON. The STK 9490's on mainframe were also ESCON though they did have
a SCSI interface for distributed system attachment. The IBM Magstar (3590)
series were natively FICON and ESCON capable depe
Ted MacNEIL wrote:
I put the heavily hit loadlibs such as SYS1.LINKLIB on one side of the VTOC,
and the ISPF libraries on the other side of the VTOC. With todays heavily
cached dasd, that probably will buy you very little anymore.
Very little.
Especially, since it's been over 15 years since
Chris Mason wrote:
Robert
I thought I'd dig further into this IUCV point and I found a reference
in the IP Configuration Guide. It appears that IUCV, VMCF and TNF
"stuff" is still available, you just don't necessarily need it. It would
appear to have become an *optional* bit of preparation fo
Mark Post wrote:
If you give a Linux guest a 4GB virtual machine, it will have very close
to a 4GB working set. If you give that same Linux guest 64GB, it will
have very close to a 64GB working set. The fact that you say "Linux will
use what it needs" tells me that you have little or no exper
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post) writes:
That's still probably too much, if only by a little. The idea is to
force Linux to use as little storage as possible for buffers and
cache, and page out any programs, etc., that haven't been used very
recently. Letting z/VM handle this via expanded storage,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson, Steve) writes:
VSE, as I recall, was told that it had 32MB (or something similar) and
VM then took care of the paging (because VSE didn't page in that case)
-- must understand the memory system used by VSE (similar to VS1).
recent posts in this thread:
http://www.ga
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Post) writes:
Oh, and if you create a 64GB z/VM guest, shame on you. As someone who
is very heavy into z/VM performance once told me, "z/VM is very good
at managing large numbers of small things. It's not so good at
managing a smaller number of very large things." I ten
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) writes:
Also, sub-systems like DB2 are getting to the point where you
should/could/would not like it to page. Sort of throws the concept
out the window, doesn't it?
previous post in thread
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007o.html#41 Virtual Storage implementation
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rugen, Len) writes:
Virtual storage isn't exclusive to MVS - z/OS. One on of the best
presentations I recall was in a VM Performance and Tuning class.
Together with storage protection keys, page tables can be built to allow
different "users" to have various parts of private
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thompson, Steve) writes:
Imagine, you have a 3081 at 100% and you upgraded to a 3084 (basically
you added the other 3081) and you are still at 100%. Or you have a 3033
and you went to a 470/V8. [I'm not saying these were the systems, just
using them as examples.]
3081 was two
On Aug 15, 11:11 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (daver++) wrote:
"Around 1:30 p.m., the CPB experienced problems accessing its database
containing information on international travelers. Assuming this to be a
wide-area network problem, CBP called Sprint, its carrier, to test the
lines. After three fruitle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.S.) writes:
No.
PR/SM is microcode - a code under OS. Sometimes called "firmware.
z/OS runs in LPAR. Although it can obtaine i.e. LPAR name, it is still
"unaware" from PR/SM and LPARs features. z/OS works in "virtual
machine" (Logical PARtition) and does know that machine.
Ho
Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
for some topic drift ... part of the issue is that the majority of
such compromises have involved data-at-rest ... not data-in-transit
... and lots of implementations don't provide the access control that
may be found in mainframe installat
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fake) writes:
I'm 46 years old now. I started Assembler programming on a 360 when I was
18. Best move I ever made. I've always thought that the mainframes were
here to stay and the move to "non-mainframe" platforms was driven
significantly by the trade rags in the 90'
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Mason) writes:
> One of the presentations was someone from a big UK bank who defended
> IBM having made the 155 and 165 available and relati
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Fochtman) writes:
> If the business needs are being satisfied, with reasonable economy,
> who cares whether the box is "the lastest and great
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eugene Miya) writes:
> No, the most difficult competition was and is against the IBM PC.
>
> If it did so well, we'd see more evidence of it being
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in Spite of the Corporate Culture of IBM
the place that 43xx had the most diffic
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Smith III) writes:
> Re RISC vs. 68K:
> Anyone who thinks the RISC chips killed the 68K is off base. They
> just need to check the dates. I
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Smith III) writes:
> Re VAX vs. IBM:
> I was a central, low level member of the 4300 series. I also led the
> engineering side of the fight
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another article on the same theme:
Leopard and Vista: Last Gasp of the Big OS?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/133276
from above:
Twenty years from now a new ge
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Morten Reistad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Also, log structured file systems, the jfs and contributions to efs3,
> and huge improvements to the irq and dma routin
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil Smith III) writes:
> Which is the end of the story, boys and girls. For, while so many
> people focus on how the PC has damaged the mainfram
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Mason) writes:
> ... and thereby put the wait light out[1]. Having been brought up with
> DOS (the original DOS), and, generally, S/360 Model 30s, I was used to
>
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Lurndal) writes:
> Sure there are. Start with WindRiver. Then progress to MCP/AS, z/OS,
> Exec/1100 and so forth. The whole world isn't
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> This is fascinating history, Lynn. I remember using the Prepare command in
> channel programs for the 2701 that we used in the TUCC ne
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http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007m.html#66 Off Topic But Concept should be Known
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Brick) writes:
> http://www.theregister.com/2007/06/20/usenix_07_opening_keynote/
the new, 40yr old theme, curtesy of the science center
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn
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IBMsysProg wrote:
> From a software architecture standpoint, Multi Regions, Independent
> locking (IRLM), Automated Recovery (DBRC), and DASD Logging became the
> f
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Peter Flass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Well, unix is unix (or Linux). The problems come from the basic
> design; if you changed the design, it wouldn't be unix.
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for some additional past history
the university i was at was selected to be b
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Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> with the advent of PCs ... a lot of the cms personal computing migrated
> to PCs ... althoug
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> When? I never considered IBM world and its batch environment
> timesharing. Timesharing does not do large data processing tasks
> well
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (IBMsysProg) writes:
> Memory.
> Over the years the first exploiters of architecture changes to allow more
> address spaces, more real memory, and
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Frank McCoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yup ... As *would* have happened with the PC itself if they'd been
> that tight-assed with it. They just didn't *get* the
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> The public history of the PC began in August 1981, when IBM first
> announced 'The IBM Personal Computer.' . This was The original
> PC.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Black) writes:
> ASM2 was eventually acquired by CA and become CA-DISK, then
> Brightstore CA-DISK, and now CA Disk Backup and Restore. I
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (R.S.) writes:
> Key-based solutions exist on mianframe as well as on other systems.
>
> I think it is rather technical, not ethical or organisatio
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clem Clarke) writes:
> It's a shame, but unless IBM does do a big rethink on this, and allows
> small developers some sort of inexpensive or free
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I realize that this has probably been asked before, but google didn't
> give me an answer. Before I asked my question let me state that I
> know that windows
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shane) writes:
> M - seems to be just a "warming over" of the multi-programming
> versus parallel discussion.
> With the exception of that la
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Patrick O'Keefe) writes:
> At times like this I sorely miss my long lost APPN "Formats and Protocols"
> bible. I believe official sources claim t
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a couple recent items:
The death of single threaded development
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=519
Google Acquires Multicore Programming Startup PeakStream --
Multit
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http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007l.html#26 Is Parallel Programming Just Too Hard
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rich Smrcina) writes:
> If I understand what your asking there are products on the market that
> can do this today.
>
> As long as there is a 3270
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Schmidt) writes:
> It seems to me that only a few years ago (and probably in many of the
> hundreds of recycled "I remember when..." threads lately) we were, as
> a
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Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> long ago and far away, this was one of the battles getting the
> compare&swap instruction i
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Brazee) writes:
> Depending on one's definition of parallel programming, we have been
> doing to various degrees since before they started
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Dan Espen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> No, in the sense that C was pretty close to the assembler for
> the machine UNIX was first developed on.
>
> It would have b
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Gilmartin) writes:
> Much of this is due to the reliance on null-terminated strings, which
> are not peculiar to C, but are rooted in the UN
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
> The were also assists for OS/VS1 and MVS/SE, to say nothing of the
> infamous ECPS:VSE.
re:
http://www.garli
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) writes:
> Dont forget APL Shared Variables.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craddock, Chris) writes:
> I never actually met a processor with the (mythical?) APL assist
> feature. However, I did write mountains of APL throu
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gerhard Postpischil) writes:
> Back in the seventies I was in charge of the systems group at a
> service bureau. One of our customers was from a
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> I don't remember any 3350 problems as this device type was my first
> performance charge with doing internal pathing/volume placement ba
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL) writes:
> I started with 3330's.
> And, I remember when STK (STC) showed us their first ICEBERG, and the
> size of the device was th
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> IBM 3880 - 1 or 2 (IBM DASD and Control Units Facts Folder G520-3075-2)
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as an aside ... all
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Howard Brazee) writes:
> I'd also like to see that with politics, but politician's pay is
> power, and that cannot be deferred.But it is more important for a
> Pres
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richards.Bob) writes:
> I wonder if they will reveal the costs of extra hw/sw for
> high-availability and business continuance associated with this
> migration. Probably
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> What is 'OCO' ?
> Thanks
there were several "OCO-wars" threads/discussion on vmshare. it was
somewhat more of an issue in vm culture ...
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Fochtman) writes:
> I went "the other way" in the Army, finding myself in a tropical
> climate where the main diet was rice, with a few vege
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> Today, I see these two used interchangeably. I've even seen title changes
> from one to the other in the same shop when HR
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