Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 01/04/2008 at 11:29 AM, Ed Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I was talking about this issue on another list and they suggested that >the probable culprit was the listserv. The listserv sent you my message with the URL exactly as I wrote it. That's why I suggested th

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

On Jan 4, 2008, at 9:41 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 12/31/2007 at 04:06 PM, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: ... gives "404 Not Found" from Lynx, Firefox, probably many others because of the trailing '>'. An excerpt from the HTML source is: ...

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 12/31/2007 at 04:06 PM, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >... gives "404 Not Found" from Lynx, Firefox, probably many >others because of the trailing '>'. An excerpt from the >HTML source is: >...see

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

On Sat, 22 Dec 2007 19:13:12 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote: >In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 12/20/2007 > at 12:06 PM, Howard Brazee said: > >>I recommend putting both the full URL and the short one. > >Works for me. > >-- > Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT > ISO position; s

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 12/20/2007 at 12:06 PM, Howard Brazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I recommend putting both the full URL and the short one. Works for me. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 12/20/2007 at 01:39 PM, "Chase, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Actually, SocSec is a "chain letter": It's worse than that, because the funds were not retained by the SSA. Instead, SSA bought bonds that helped fund "borrow and spend" budgeting and their's no reasona

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

>Piece of trivia here: We've had more than 100 new taxes imposed on us since >1900. What happened in that time? GOVERNMENT HAPPENED!!! Come to Canada. There are few countries taxed as heavily as we are. Great Britain is one of them. Even our cities are allowed to impose additional taxes. - Too

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

- It's a tax. The nature of taxes is that we may or may not good value from the tax. It is designed to get money to old or infirmed from current taxes. --- Piece of trivia here: We've had more than 100 new tax

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

-- And the money I've paid into Social Security all my life will be returned in my retirement with interest ! I'm so sure that will happen that I've already started to spend it. I don't know what you're sm

Re: OT: tinyurl [was 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting]

On 21 Dec 2007 07:52:12 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote: >http://makeashorterlink.com/ says this now: > >"Make A Shorter Link has been acquired by TinyURL.com > >TinyURL is committed to making sure that the short links made via Make a >Shorter Link, TinyURL, and similar services remai

Re: OT: tinyurl [was 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting]

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Howard Brazee > > On 20 Dec 2007 13:11:28 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walt Farrell) > wrote: > > >In response to that concern, TinyUrl allows you to specify that you > >want to preview the long link before clicking th

Re: OT: tinyurl [was 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting]

On 20 Dec 2007 13:11:28 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Walt Farrell) wrote: >In response to that concern, TinyUrl allows you to specify that you want to >preview the long link before clicking through. You can specify that option >at tinyurl.com if you want. > >In addition, anyone creating a TinyUrl l

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:51:14 -0500, Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >there is also some gimick on how much is paid, it is currently 15.3% ... >but for standard salary workers ... the company has to pay half of it >over and above the salary ... and then there is the other half deduct

Re: OT: tinyurl [was 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting]

> From: David Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > And clicking through tinyurl (or any proxy) provides yet *another* leak > for your browsing history to escape through. Interestingly enough, my work internet filters block tinyurl. In order to get to a page referenced by a tinyurl, I have to chain throug

Re: OT: tinyurl [was 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting]

> >And clicking through tinyurl (or any proxy) provides yet *another* leak > >for your browsing history to escape through. > > Yup - can't fix that with any service like this. Use a decent browser - preferably running on a decent O/S. And of course there's always lynx (and its ilk). Bit light-on

Re: OT: tinyurl [was 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting]

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:52:39 -0500, David Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >As someone else noted (I think it was Ed Gould), I'm uncomfortable >clicking on a link when I don't know in advance where it's going. Work >politics, y'know. > In response to that concern, TinyUrl allows you to specify

Re: OT: tinyurl [was 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting]

>I'm uncomfortable clicking on a link when I don't know in advance where it's >going. I've always told people where mine are going. They're usually to articles I have written for IBM Systems Magazine. I hope people trust me, at least. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! ---

Re: OT: tinyurl [was 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting]

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 15:52:39 -0500, David Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >As someone else noted (I think it was Ed Gould), I'm uncomfortable >clicking on a link when I don't know in advance where it's going. Work >politics, y'know. Tinyurl has a preview feature that you can turn on (yes, it

OT: tinyurl [was 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting]

On Thu, 2007-12-20 at 19:19 +, Ted MacNEIL wrote: > >There are significant issues with people using tinyurl > What are the issues? > And, why is it a mistake? As someone else noted (I think it was Ed Gould), I'm uncomfortable clicking on a link when I don't know in advance where it's going. W

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main as well. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Conmackie, Mike) writes: > And the money I've paid into Social Security all my life will be > returned in my retirement with interest ! ss is pay as you go system

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

IBM Mainframe Discussion List wrote on 12/20/2007 11:19:43 AM: > >There are significant issues with people using tinyurl and such, > and it's a mistake more often than not. > How about a little elabouration (for a change)? > What are the issues? > And, why is it a mistake? The issue is that i

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

On 20 Dec 2007 12:10:39 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edward Jaffe) wrote: >FICA looks like a tax and smells like a tax. But, technically is not a >tax. If you look carefully, it's a pre-tax deduction. And, when you >receive a payment in retirement, it's taxable. Not unlike 401(k) >contributions an

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 13:39:50 -0600, Chase, John wrote: > >Actually, SocSec is a "chain letter": The money you paid in was spent >on (or before) the day you sent it in. The money you "get back" (if >any) will be paid in by the folks still working at the time. > My point was to compare the "promi

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

Howard Brazee wrote: It's a tax. The nature of taxes is that we may or may not good value from the tax. It is designed to get money to old or infirmed from current taxes. FICA looks like a tax and smells like a tax. But, technically is not a tax. If you look carefully, it's a pre-tax de

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

ween quick, potentially risky, access and the joy of unwrapping a long one. > Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:35:00 -0600> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting> To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU> > On Dec 19, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Eric Chevalie

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

On 20 Dec 2007 11:40:14 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chase, John) wrote: >The only "winners" in SocSec were the initial recipients who never paid >in a penny, and those who live(d) long enough to "withdraw" more than >they paid in. It's a tax. The nature of taxes is that we may or may not good val

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Conmackie, Mike > > Dave Kopischke wrote: > > > And the money I've paid into Social Security all my life will > be returned in my retirement with interest ! > > I'm so sure that will happen that I've already st

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

>There are significant issues with people using tinyurl and such, and it's a >mistake more often than not. How about a little elabouration (for a change)? What are the issues? And, why is it a mistake? For once, I would like to hear some evidence, rather than blanket declaratives! - Too busy dr

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

On 20 Dec 2007 10:58:19 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: >>It takes about 15 seconds, and shows that you have concern for your >>readers. > >But is that concern positive or negative? There are significant issues >with people using tinyurl and such, and it's a mistake mor

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

Dave Kopischke wrote: And the money I've paid into Social Security all my life will be returned in my retirement with interest ! I'm so sure that will happen that I've already started to spend it. I never claimed belief in the statement ;-) I simply parroted the phrase from the website.

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 12/19/2007 at 05:12 PM, Eric Chevalier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >It takes about 15 seconds, and shows that you have concern for your >readers. But is that concern positive or negative? There are significant issues with people using tinyurl and such, and it's a mista

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

On 20 Dec 2007 10:10:43 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Kopischke) wrote: >And the money I've paid into Social Security all my life will be returned in >my >retirement with interest ! > >I'm so sure that will happen that I've already started to spend it. Actually, it was spent a long time ag

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

>According to the website they "never expire". I've had the original web site die due to 'link rot' long before the tinyurl did. I've used them for years and never had a problem. I've even (accidently) tried to create another tinyurl on the same original, and been told that it had already been

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:22:49 -0500, Conmackie, Mike wrote: >Ed Jaffe wrote: > > >How long do they last? > > >According to the website they "never expire". > And the money I've paid into Social Security all my life will be returned in my retirement with interest ! I'm so sure that will happe

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

Maybe Verizon will offer FIOS at my address sometime in the next decade, but probably not. In any case, I am very hesitant to do any business with Verizon, they have caused me great pain in the past. >>> Anton Britz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 12/19/2007 6:34 PM >>> Hi, a) To avoid others "Cut and Pas

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

I wouldn't be holding my breath on that one! :-) Anton Britz wrote: Hi, a) To avoid others "Cut and Pasting" too : *http://tinyurl.com/2jcwby* b) next step is to make them understand NOT to use an ISP email address because everybody is going to start changing ISP's soon.. http://www22.verizon

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:34:38 -0700 Anton Britz said: >Hi, > >a) To avoid others "Cut and Pasting" too : > >*http://tinyurl.com/2jcwby* If you use FireFox, there is also an extension that allows you to right click on the page, and it automatically creates a TinyURL for that page, and copies it to y

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe > > Eric Chevalier wrote: > > Paste your long URL into the field that's labeled > > > > "Enter a long URL to make tiny:" > > > > Click the button that says "Make TinyURL!" > > > > Voila! You have a ver

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

On Dec 19, 2007, at 5:12 PM, Eric Chevalier wrote: On 19 Dec 2007 10:59:34 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) wrote: Watch the wrap... Have you checked out the website that Little_Nicky suggested? Eric, I looked at it maybe 6 months ago and I just did not care for it. One of the items

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

Hi, a) To avoid others "Cut and Pasting" too : *http://tinyurl.com/2jcwby* b) next step is to make them understand NOT to use an ISP email address because everybody is going to start changing ISP's soon.. http://www22.verizon.com/Content/ConsumerFiOS/ Anton Britz --

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

Ed Jaffe wrote: How long do they last? According to the website they "never expire". Mike Conmackie Senior Software Developer Compuware Corporation 1 Campus Martius Detroit, MI 48226 The contents of this e-mail are intended for the named addressee only. It contains information that may be co

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

Eric Chevalier wrote: Paste your long URL into the field that's labeled "Enter a long URL to make tiny:" Click the button that says "Make TinyURL!" Voila! You have a very *short* URL that you can paste into your message. No more "Watch the wrap..."! How long do they last? -- Edward E

Re: 2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

On 19 Dec 2007 10:59:34 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Gould) wrote: >Watch the wrap... Have you checked out the website that Little_Nicky suggested? On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:25:40 -0800 (PST), Little_Nicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >ED, just a heads up, if your worried about URL wrapping you can

2007 Year in Review on Mainframes - Interesting

Watch the wrap... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions,