On Tue, 1 May 2007 15:10:23 -0400, Knutson, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Put this in a SYSPROC/SYSEXEC library and use it as a line command in
>3.4
>
Looks *very* similar to mine:
/* REXX */
/* */
/* AUTHOR: Mark Zelden
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:46:24 -0400, Wayne Driscoll
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ok, time for me to spend some time on the soap box. What is the
>TECHNICAL reason for not allowing the Mainframe to access the
network?
>I don't understand this at all. Every PC in your company probably can
>access
Put this in a SYSPROC/SYSEXEC library and use it as a line command in
3.4
/* REXX MAKEXMI */
/* Xmit PDS into data set for FTP */
PARSE UPPER ARG dsn
@dsn = dsn
On Tue, 2007-05-01 at 13:18 -0500, Mark H. Young wrote:
> I want to put a PDS in XMIT format (PS), so I can transfer it to the
> PC and go from there
Coming in late on the conversation, sorry, but I've recently become
enamored of AWS format for things I want to move. It's directly
readable by the
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>> Subject: Re: Best practices for software delivery
>
>
>
>> OK, I seem to be having an Alzheimer's moment. I want to put a PDS in
>> XMIT format (PS), so I can transfer it to the PC and go from there.
>> I don't seem to have any JCL left laying
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>> Subject: Re: Best practices for software delivery
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>>
>> I have to agree with John. I would suggest building an install package
>> from XMIT output (or even do a 2 stage XMIT, ie create a PDS with XMIT's
>> of the different libraries, then
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Subject: Re: Best practices for software delivery
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:00:00 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A wrote:
>
>And while almost every desk worker here has some type of PC or
>workstation that can connect to the inter
On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:00:00 -0700, Schwarz, Barry A
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>And while almost every desk worker here has some type of PC or
>workstation that can connect to the internet, none of those can access
>our mainframe.
What does connect? Real 3270 green screens or just separate
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 04/27/2007
at 03:08 PM, Edward Jaffe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>This reminds me of a Chris Craddock pet peeve -- the kind you cannot
>escape hearing given enough time and beer -- about modern mainframes
>and their operating systems having unique and spectacular
>cap
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
on 04/27/2007
at 01:12 PM, "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Well, ftp is insecure.
Sure, just like HTTP. As you note, both[1] can be secured, so I don't
see a security reason for choosing one over the other.
[1] As can others.
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Currently we deliver our software in 3480 cartridge IEBCOPY format
and in CD XMIT format.
We would ike to change our very very old 3480 tape drives to 3590.
3590s are definitely not universal. With the advent of 3592 and STK
drives, many sites may have no 3590s, or 3480s for that matter.
Edward Jaffe writes:
This reminds me of a Chris Craddock pet peeve -- the kind you cannot
escape hearing given
enough time and beer -- about modern mainframes and their operating
systems having unique
and spectacular capabilities that their users just obstinately refuse to
exploit!
In
On 27 Apr 2007 17:00:27 -0700, in bit.listserv.ibm-main
(Message-ID:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Schwarz, Barry A) wrote:
Who said it was a technical reason? I don't know the
source of the
restriction for other subscribers but in our case it is a
government
agency that determines
Craddock, Chris wrote:
Edward E Jaffe wrote:
Wayne Driscoll wrote:
Ok, time for me to spend some time on the soap box. <<
This reminds me of a Chris Craddock pet peeve -- the kind you cannot
escape hearing given enough time and beer -- about modern mainframes
and
their operating system
e was even a big to do about whether
they could be hooked up to commercial power.
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From: Wayne Driscoll [mailto:snip]
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:46 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Best practices for software delivery
Ok, time for me to spend some time on th
Edward E Jaffe wrote:
> Wayne Driscoll wrote:
> > Ok, time for me to spend some time on the soap box. <<
>
> This reminds me of a Chris Craddock pet peeve -- the kind you cannot
> escape hearing given enough time and beer -- about modern mainframes
and
> their operating systems having unique and
Wayne Driscoll wrote:
Ok, time for me to spend some time on the soap box. What is the
TECHNICAL reason for not allowing the Mainframe to access the network?
I don't understand this at all. Every PC in your company probably can
access the internet, allowing employees to spend time browsing the w
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
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And since I (along with some other subscribers) am not allowed to
connect the mainframe network externa
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> In
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On 27 Apr 2007 10:36:01 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel
Metz , Seymour J.) wrote:
>>Internet is only a reasonable approach when companies are willing to
>>provide the same level of quality control over their web sites
>
>The WWW is not the Internet. Why not use FTP?
Offer whatever your customers
In
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
on 04/27/2007
at 04:12 AM, "Schwarz, Barry A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Internet is only a reasonable approach when companies are willing to
>provide the same level of quality control over their web sites
The WWW is not the Internet. Why not use FTP?
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that has been posted to bit.listserv.ibm-main,alt.folklore.computers as well.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Schwarz, Barry A) writes:
> Internet is only a reasonable approach when companies are willing to
> provide the same level of quality control over
My $0.02:
It's not your, but customer decision. They have money, they make the
rules. Even silly rules. If they want data on RedWood drive or reels
*and they pay for that* your role is to provide it.
Obviously from your point of view it is simply to expensive to support
all possible medias a
Schwarz, Barry A wrote:
Internet is only a reasonable approach when companies are willing to
provide the same level of quality control over their web sites that they
do for their traditional media. Other than the CBT site (thank you Sam)
none of the others I deal with do. When I'm trying to down
pril 26, 2007 6:33 AM
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Subject: Re: Best practices for software delivery
internet, as long as it's done like IBM's Shopzseries.
(and not like C/A's esd process).
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In a recent note, Hal Merritt said:
> Subject: Re: Best practices for software delivery
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> Internet or a CD/DVD in zipped TSO XMIT format.
>
Think marketing; think marketing. Preload it on an iPod.
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In a recent note, McKown, John said:
> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:30:30 -0500
>
> I even did this with some files that resided on UNIX. You use "pax
In a recent note, McKown, John said:
> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:30:30 -0500
>
> I even did this with some files that resided on UNIX. You use "pax" to
> create an archive, and direct it out to a z/OS legacy dataset with
> LRECL=1,RECFM=FB,BLKSIZE=?. Then XMIT the pax archive and put it i
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>
> I have to agree
inions are strictly my own.
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Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 8:00 AM
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Subject: Re: Best practices for software delivery
Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
> Hi
>
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What are the best methods for software delivery ?
Background
Currently we deliver our software in 3480 cartridge IEBCOPY format and
in CD XMIT format.We would ike to change our very very old 3480 tape
drives to 3590.
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Electronic delivery can save you $$$ if you have state sales tax.
Tapes may get to be real interesting in the near future.
IBM has withdrawn service for the 3490s that fit in an ATL (I think all
models). There may still be a standalone model that you can get service
for. That leaves 3590 and 3
Hi
Thank you very much for everybody.
Unfortunatly the internet is not an option from our side , and I think
not an option from the customers side.
They would like to have something in the hand.
Till now the 3480 tape delivery worked.
Robert Justice wrote:
internet, as long as it's done like
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Subject: Best practices for software delivery
Hi
What are the best methods for software delivery ?
Background
Currently we deliver our software in 3480 cartridge IEBCOPY format
and in CD XMIT format.
We would ike to change our very very old 3480 tape drives to 3590.
--
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internet, as long as it's done like IBM's Shopzseries.
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> Miklos Szigetvari wrot
Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
Hi
What are the best methods for software delivery ?
Internet?
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On Thu, 2007-04-26 at 14:34 +0200, Miklos Szigetvari wrote:
> We would ike to change our very very old 3480 tape drives to 3590.
*DON'T*
3590 is *not* a universal format. I have customers that have STK (Sun)
silos and are unable to use 3590.
Stand alone 3490(E) drives allow external tapes to b
Hi
What are the best methods for software delivery ?
Background
Currently we deliver our software in 3480 cartridge IEBCOPY format
and in CD XMIT format.
We would ike to change our very very old 3480 tape drives to 3590.
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Miklos Szigetvari
Development Team
ISIS Information Systems Gmb
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