Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-23 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2011k.html#27 CLOCK change problem 32bit value with 15hr duration ... different models decrement bits depending on timer resolution of the model. re: http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/360/funcChar/GA24-3231-7_360-30_funcChar.pdf pg. 29, Interval Timer The Model

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 08/23/2011 at 11:16 AM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler said: >lower-end 360s would update location 80 appox. every 3mills No. From S/360 PoOps: "Timer feature The timer is provided as an interval timer and may be programmed to maintain the time of day. The timer consists of a full word in mai

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <025201cc6133$a6310ac0$f2932040$@us>, on 08/22/2011 at 08:26 PM, Jim Thomas said: >I started off on the HDW side from the 360's It didn't exist on the 360. >I do fully remember a 'green' switch that had to be enabled to >'change' the time Called something like "clock enable" as I recall

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-23 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <1314066987.61701.yahoomailmob...@web161424.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, on 08/22/2011 at 07:36 PM, Ed Gould said: >If it was there on the 360's I never heard/saw anything about it. There was no TOD clock on the S/360, hence no need to enable setting it. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysPro

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-23 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
bherr...@txfb-ins.com (Herring, Bobby) writes: > TOD Clock switch AFAIK came in with the 370. I remember it > specifically on the 168 my memory is iffy on the 155/158 but I think > it was there, no experience on the 14X . > > If it was there on the 360s I never heard/saw anything about it. TOD

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-23 Thread Herring, Bobby
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] CLOCK change problem TOD Clock switch AFAIK came in with the 370. I remember it specifically on the 168 my memory is iffy on the 155/158 but I think it was there, no experience on the 14X . If it was there on the 360's I never heard/saw anyt

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-22 Thread Ed Gould
TOD Clock switch AFAIK came in with the 370. I remember it specifically on the 168 my memory is iffy on the 155/158 but I think it was there, no experience on the 14X . If it was there on the 360's I never heard/saw anything about it. Ed ---

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-22 Thread Jim Thomas
om: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem In <07ea01cc5e6a$1a9e0650$4fda12f0$@us>, on 08/19/2011 at 07:18 AM, Jim Thomas said: >

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-22 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <07ea01cc5e6a$1a9e0650$4fda12f0$@us>, on 08/19/2011 at 07:18 AM, Jim Thomas said: >Switch ?? .. as in a command or a bit ?. As in a physical toggle switch on the early S/370 boxen. But these days all of the pretty buttons, dials, rollers and toggles have been replaced by logical equivalen

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-22 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Chase, John > Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 5:31 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem > > > -Original Message- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Thomas > > > > Sir

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Jim Thomas
:31 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Thomas > > Sir, > > My sincere apologies ... right you are and yes, it > was from the old Kung Fu series ... I've just

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Thomas > > Sir, > > My sincere apologies ... right you are and yes, it > was from the old Kung Fu series ... I've just come to > a point where I don't (automatically) think that people > are old enough to know wha

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Jim Thomas
du Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem On 8/21/2011 2:39 PM, Jim Thomas wrote: > Sir, > > My apologies ... 'so desu ne' ?? .. chinese ?? .. > > Forgive me .. aside from Japanese, I also knew Mandarin but > 'so desu ne' is Japanese ... and essentially it

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Steve Comstock
August 21, 2011 7:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem On 8/21/2011 12:32 AM, Jim Thomas wrote: Hai Shidoshi ... Watashi o keihatsu shite itadaki arigatogozaimasu. Watashi wa sore o shitte ita koto ga nai. Watashi wa nipponjin de wa nai asa ga nai I'm so

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Jim Thomas
) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Comstock Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:09 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem On 8/21/2011 12:32 AM, Jim Thomas wrote: > H

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Jim Thomas
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Chase, John Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 5:35 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim Thomas > > Hai Shidoshi ... &g

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Steve Comstock
Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:18:28 -0500 Jim Thomas wrote: :>Switch ?? .. a

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Steve Comstock
riday, August 19, 2011 7:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:18:28 -0500 Jim Thomas wrote: :>Switch ?? .. as in a command or a bit ?. A physical switch, young grasshopper. It had to be in the enable position. No idea how it is done nowadays.

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-21 Thread Chase, John
t; -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf > Of Binyamin Dissen > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:47 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem > > On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:18:28 -0500 Jim T

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-20 Thread Jim Thomas
Alvaro Guirao Lopez Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 8:34 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem I will see at manuals, zPDT is stopped when you stop z/OS image, it is supossed that z/OS may work normally so the IPL procedure must works but its's true that there are

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-20 Thread Jim Thomas
-1014(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:47 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 07:18:28

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Scott Rowe
:>Switch ?? .. as in a command or a bit ?. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > A physical switch, young grasshopper. It had to be in the enable >> > > > > position. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > No idea how it is

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Scott Rowe
d to be in the enable > > > > > position. > > > > > > > > > > > > No idea how it is done nowadays. Have not IPLed a real machine in > a > > > > long > > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
real machine in a > > > long > > > > > time. > > > > > > > > > > :>Default STPMODE is YES and were it set to NO .. he would > > > > > :>not get this prompt. That said, he should not set STPMODE > > > > > :>to

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Scott Rowe
how it is done nowadays. Have not IPLed a real machine in a > > long > > > > time. > > > > > > > > :>Default STPMODE is YES and were it set to NO .. he would > > > > :>not get this prompt. That said, he should not set STPMODE > > >

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
long > > > time. > > > > > > :>Default STPMODE is YES and were it set to NO .. he would > > > :>not get this prompt. That said, he should not set STPMODE > > > :>to NO unless he is prepared to go to STP. > > > > > > :>-Original Mess

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Scott Rowe
d, he should not set STPMODE > > :>to NO unless he is prepared to go to STP. > > > > :>-Original Message- > > :>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On > > Behalf > > :>Of Binyamin Dissen > > :>Sent: F

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
, he should not set STPMODE > :>to NO unless he is prepared to go to STP. > > :>-Original Message- > :>From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf > :>Of Binyamin Dissen > :>Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM > :>

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Binyamin Dissen
, 2011 6:56 AM :>To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu :>Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem :> :>On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez :> wrote: :> :>:>I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to OPERATOR PROMPT to change the :>:>local and UTC/GMT hour. :> :>:

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Alvaro Guirao Lopez Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 7:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem Then I only change the local hour, in this case system don't issues IEA903A message. I have tried and this is the result:

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
(mobile) 636-294-1014(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Lizette Koehler Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:50 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change pro

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
Then I only change the local hour, in this case system don't issues IEA903A message. I have tried and this is the result: * 00 IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00 IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL TIME 2011/8/19 Jim Thomas > >I reply with > > >R 00,

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
(res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Binyamin Dissen Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 6:56 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: CLOCK change problem On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Jim Thomas
>I reply with >R 00,DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.35.00,UTC >Then system issues IEA903A to reply U when the time ocurrs, I reply at the >time: >R 00,U >and then appears again the CLOCK without my change >* 00 IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00 IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
The system is z/OS V1R11 under zPDT at Red Hat Linux, logically, I don't have STP. The CLOCK member it's at one of my PARMLIB's libraries configuration and is like follows: OPERATOR PROMPT TIMEZONE E.02.00.00 ETRMODE NO ETRZONE NO ETRDELTA 10 STPMODE NO STPZONE NO I can change my local hour

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In , on 08/19/2011 at 01:25 PM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez said: >and then appears again the CLOCK without my change Was TOD update enabled? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see We don't care. We don't have t

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Binyamin Dissen
On Fri, 19 Aug 2011 13:25:59 +0200 Alvaro Guirao Lopez wrote: :>I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to OPERATOR PROMPT to change the :>local and UTC/GMT hour. :>Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply :>* 00 IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00 :> IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK

Re: CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Lizette Koehler
> Hi listers, > > I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to OPERATOR PROMPT to change the local > and UTC/GMT hour. > > Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply > > * 00 IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00 > IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL TIME > > I

CLOCK change problem

2011-08-19 Thread Alvaro Guirao Lopez
Hi listers, I have z/OS V1R11, I have changed CLOCK to OPERATOR PROMPT to change the local and UTC/GMT hour. Whe I IPLed the system it prompt reply * 00 IEA888A UTC DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=11.30.00 IEA888A LOCAL DATE=2011.231,CLOCK=13.30.00 REPLY U, OR UTC/LOCAL TIME I reply with R 00,DATE