Re: Standalone Utilities via the HMC (was :RE: Creating IOCDS via HMC)

2005-09-12 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi John, At least as far as Standalone Utilities having them ready is probably all you need to do. If you are in that desperate straights you are not going to be on the phone you are going to be at the HMC. Having ZZSA, FDR SAR, etc on CD or on known TAPE or DASD volumes I would think would be

Re: Standalone Utilities via the HMC (was :RE: Creating IOCDS via HMC)

2005-09-09 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Whitteridge Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:12 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Standalone Utilities via the HMC (was :RE: Creating IOCDS via HMC) We place Icons

Re: Creating IOCDS via HMC

2005-09-09 Thread Bielskie, Stephen
Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin, Mike Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Creating IOCDS via HMC OK, now I am really getting confused. We are currently running in BASIC mode. If I drag and drop the CPC ICON onto

Re: Standalone Utilities via the HMC (was :RE: Creating IOCDS via HMC)

2005-09-09 Thread Bruce Black
Wouldn't it be helpful if there were an architected, __simple__, way to place a stand alone utility onto the SE and have it IPLable via the HMC? I can imagine having DFDSS, FDR, ICKDSF, and maybe SAE (or ZZSA) on the SE, instantly IPLable without a tape, or trying to remember the address of the

Re: Standalone Utilities via the HMC (was :RE: Creating IOCDS via HMC)

2005-09-09 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
The Icons are labled as SYSNAME_RESVOLNAME or SYSNAME_SADUMP as necessary. They have an IPL sheet issued to them as needed to list which system is to use which resvol (we use an alternate resvol system so for each system there are 2 resvol icons ) They haven't had a problem with the layout so far.

Creating IOCDS via HMC

2005-09-08 Thread Martin, Mike
All, Can we (non-disruptively) create an IOCDS using the HMC without bringing our running systems down? (we have z/OS running under VM and I am told we have problems creating a IOCDS thru z/OS batch IOCP - we usually drop z/OS and VM, then IPL z/OS natively and run batch IOCP). I would like to

Re: Creating IOCDS via HMC

2005-09-08 Thread Bielskie, Stephen
: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin, Mike Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Creating IOCDS via HMC All, Can we (non-disruptively) create an IOCDS using the HMC without bringing our running systems down? (we have z

Re: Creating IOCDS via HMC

2005-09-08 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Mike Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:30 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Creating IOCDS via HMC All, Can we (non-disruptively) create an IOCDS using the HMC

Re: Creating IOCDS via HMC

2005-09-08 Thread Imbriale, Don
If you are registered in ResourceLink, you can get your hands on the Stand- Alone IOCP User's Guide. Don Imbriale On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 15:30:10 -0400, Martin, Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, Can we (non-disruptively) create an IOCDS using the HMC without bringing our running systems down?

Re: Creating IOCDS via HMC

2005-09-08 Thread Martin, Mike
Don and Stephen, Are you saying that Stand Alone IOCP isn't really stand alone? i.e. It runs concurrently with everything else running (z/OS, LPARs active, etc.)? Mike FONT SIZE=1 FACE=ARIAL^ This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the

Re: Creating IOCDS via HMC

2005-09-08 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 9/8/2005 3:02:58 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you saying that Stand Alone IOCP isn't really stand alone? i.e. It runs concurrently with everything else running (z/OS, LPARs active, etc.)? It runs fine concurrently. It's the big

Re: Creating IOCDS via HMC

2005-09-08 Thread Bielskie, Stephen
, September 08, 2005 4:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Creating IOCDS via HMC Don and Stephen, Are you saying that Stand Alone IOCP isn't really stand alone? i.e. It runs concurrently with everything else running (z/OS, LPARs active, etc.)? Mike

Re: Creating IOCDS via HMC

2005-09-08 Thread Imbriale, Donald (Exchange)
Of Martin, Mike Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 4:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Creating IOCDS via HMC Don and Stephen, Are you saying that Stand Alone IOCP isn't really stand alone? i.e. It runs concurrently with everything else running (z/OS, LPARs active, etc

Re: Standalone Utilities via the HMC (was :RE: Creating IOCDS via HMC)

2005-09-08 Thread Thomas Kern
Don't forget the standalone DDR for z/VM shops. /Tom Kern --- McKown, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a thought for you SHARE people to consider trying to get on the requirements list. Wouldn't it be helpful if there were an architected, __simple__, way to place a stand alone utility

Re: Creating IOCDS via HMC

2005-09-08 Thread Martin, Mike
OK, now I am really getting confused. We are currently running in BASIC mode. If I drag and drop the CPC ICON onto the Input/Output (I/O) Configuration Task to access IOCP on the HMC, will it crash my running system(z/OS running under VM)? Mike Martin FONT SIZE=1 FACE=ARIAL^ This

Re: Creating IOCDS via HMC

2005-09-08 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin, Mike Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:45 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Creating IOCDS via HMC OK, now I am really getting confused. We are currently running

Re: Standalone Utilities via the HMC (was :RE: Creating IOCDS via HMC)

2005-09-08 Thread Jerry Whitteridge
We place Icons on the HMC for each IPL pack (and system) , SA Dump and so on. Operators just have to select the Icon and Activate it rather than looking up L1 and L2 parms for each occurance. We then have ZZSA CD's by each HMC in the complex for those extreme moments. That should meet your

Re: Creating IOCDS via HMC

2005-09-08 Thread Matthew Stitt
If you try to run the MVS IOCP program under a VM guest, you get a message saying that's not allowed. BTDT (last week), and of course Mike already found that out. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access