Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/17/2008 at 10:36 AM, Tom Marchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >That's surprising. No. SYSOUT= nullifies SYSOUT. The IGD101I message is what you should get. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

Hi Mark and Barry, I'm sorry to take so long to reply - I think I'm on a different time zone to you (I'm in the UK) and don't work weekends normally. Plus I was stuck in meetings for most of Friday. Anyway, you are spot on with your advice and I'm really surprised that CA didn't suggest chec

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

I'm not surprised. You might want to ask them if they ever read their own documentation. -Original Message- From: Sally Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 6:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT Hi Peter and Mark, I

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

October 17, 2008 2:22 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU; Schwarz, Barry A Subject: Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT Hi Barry, It's the STC for IXR. In the STC, we set the DD for IXRMAIN1 to SYSOUT=Z, which is our purge class. Also, in our JES parms, our JOBCLASS for STC sets MSGCLASS=Z. In the

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 10/16/2008 at 10:16 AM, Sally Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Please can someone tell me if SYSOUT=A is always the default class for >SYSOUT in JES2, or if this is something that can be changed somewhere. Could you do what you want with an OUTPUT statement? --

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:26:14 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >And this provokes a further question. Suppose I'm overriding a DD >SYSOUT statement in a PROC which specifies both class and writer. >I might variously want to do each of the following. How can I: > >o Nullify class a

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 10:18:55 -0500, Scott Barry wrote: > >Use a JCL PROC symbolic to override SYSOUT sub-parameter(s); for an STC, you >can enter the START command with your desired symbolic value(s). > And if I don't have control of the PROC? >Also, regarding the treatment of null parameter value

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

On Sat, 18 Oct 2008 09:26:14 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:55:04 -0500, Chase, John wrote: >Of course. But why does supplying one null positional subparameter, >"SYSOUT=()", still constitute a null override, while supplying two >null positional subparam

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:55:04 -0500, Chase, John wrote: >> >> > 3 //DD01 DD SYSOUT= <== nothing there >> > >> >IGD101I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (DD01) >> >> That's surprising. Paul's SYSOUT=() does the same thing. His SMS > >That's just a "null override". We use that technique

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Tom Marchant > > On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:07:50 -0500, Chase, John wrote: > > > 2 //BR14 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 > > 3 //DD01 DD SYSOUT= <== nothing there > > > >Result: > > > >IGD101I SMS ALLOCATED TO

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 10:07:50 -0500, Chase, John wrote: > 2 //BR14 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 > 3 //DD01 DD SYSOUT= <== nothing there > >Result: > >IGD101I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (DD01) > That's surprising. Paul's SYSOUT=() does the same thing. His SMS configuration must be d

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Subject: Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT > > On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:19:20 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: > >>> > >>Is this always the case, or only if the DD statemen

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:57:54 -0500, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:40:55 -0500, Sally Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > >>Hi Peter and Mark, >> >>I have a call logged with CA but their response is:- >> >>'ASM2 does not ask for a specific SYSOUT class. No code with

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:40:55 -0500, Sally Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Peter and Mark, > >I have a call logged with CA but their response is:- > >'ASM2 does not ask for a specific SYSOUT class. No code within the product >asks for this. It appears that the operating system default is doing

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

Sally Mason wrote: Hi Peter and Mark, I have a call logged with CA but their response is:- 'ASM2 does not ask for a specific SYSOUT class. No code within the product asks for this. It appears that the operating system default is doing this class definition for us.' Hence why I was trying to es

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 08:16:22 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>What do you mean if you have a DD SYSOUT statement with the >>class empty? You have to specify something, don't you? At least >>in JCL. ... >> >Actually, you don't have to specify something: > > Linkname: 12.63

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

Hi Peter and Mark, I have a call logged with CA but their response is:- 'ASM2 does not ask for a specific SYSOUT class. No code within the product asks for this. It appears that the operating system default is doing this class definition for us.' Hence why I was trying to establish if there is a

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:19:20 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: >>> >>Is this always the case, or only if the DD statement specifies >>SYSOUT=*. I believe in our lab configuration if I leave the >>class empty on my DD SYSOUT statement, and omit the OUTPUT JCL >>statement, the SYSOUT again goes to bit bucke

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:47:08 -0500, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Then I'd go back to CA. They must be allocating it with SYSOUT(A). >I don't have any test programs dynamically allocating sysout to >play with, but if I do a TSO ALLOC for sysout without a class, it >goes to the MSGCLA

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 03:58:16 -0500, Sally Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Mark, > >Thanks very much for your reply. That's actually one of the things that's >confusing me as the MSGCLASS for our STCs is Z which is our purge class. The >output from $DJOBCLASS(STC) is:- > >JOBCLASS(STC)

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

Hi Barry, It's the STC for IXR. In the STC, we set the DD for IXRMAIN1 to SYSOUT=Z, which is our purge class. Also, in our JES parms, our JOBCLASS for STC sets MSGCLASS=Z. In the proc, all other SYSOUT for IXR is set to X, which is our held class. In IOF, the job display shows:- --JOBNAME

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

>_ 10 SYS1 ASM2 STARTING A >_ 11 SYS2 ASM2 STARTING A >_ 12 SYS3 ASM2 STARTING A >_ 13 SYS4 ASM2 STARTING A These look like dynamically allocated SYSOUT DD statements to me. I guess the program allocates them upon nee

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

Hi Mark, Thanks very much for your reply. That's actually one of the things that's confusing me as the MSGCLASS for our STCs is Z which is our purge class. The output from $DJOBCLASS(STC) is:- JOBCLASS(STC) TIME=(60,00),REGION=0001M, COMMAND=DISPLAY,BLP=YES,AUTH=(

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 7:49 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:40:03 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:16:39 -0500, Sally Mason wr

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:49:18 -0500, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:40:03 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: > >>On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:16:39 -0500, Sally Mason wrote: >> >>>Please can someone tell me if SYSOUT=A is always the default class for >>>SYSOUT in JES2, or if thi

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:40:03 -0500, Mark Zelden wrote: >On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:16:39 -0500, Sally Mason wrote: > >>Please can someone tell me if SYSOUT=A is always the default class for >>SYSOUT in JES2, or if this is something that can be changed somewhere. Also >>if it can be set, which paramet

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

? -Original Message- From: Sally Mason Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2008 8:17 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT Please can someone tell me if SYSOUT=A is always the default class for SYSOUT in JES2, or if this is something that can be changed somewhere. Also if

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:40:03 -0500, Mark Zelden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:16:39 -0500, Sally Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > >>Please can someone tell me if SYSOUT=A is always the default class for >>SYSOUT in JES2, or if this is something that can be changed somewhere

Re: Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:16:39 -0500, Sally Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Please can someone tell me if SYSOUT=A is always the default class for >SYSOUT in JES2, or if this is something that can be changed somewhere. Also >if it can be set, which parameter it is. I have tried looking in the JE

Default class for JES2 SYSOUT

Please can someone tell me if SYSOUT=A is always the default class for SYSOUT in JES2, or if this is something that can be changed somewhere. Also if it can be set, which parameter it is. I have tried looking in the JES2 and MVS manuals but haven't been able to find the answer. We generally u