Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-09 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sun, 7 Jun 2009 09:16:40 -0400, Peter Relson wrote: > > HLASM could have a restriction such as 16M on >the cumulative size of CSECTs within a single assemly unit (I have no idea >if that is the case) > Once I enable GOFF, the restriction vanishes, not only for the cu

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-08 Thread John R. Ehrman (408-463-3543 T/543-)
CSECTs are restricted to 16MB only if you generate traditional OBJ object files, because its length and address fields are 3 bytes long. As Peter said, the total length in a single assembly will be less than 16M. *BUT* if you specify the NOTHREAD option you can have as many very larget CSECTs as y

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-07 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Sat, 6 Jun 2009 15:27:52 -0700, Edward Jaffe wrote: >Paul Gilmartin wrote: >> By experiment, I discover that HLASM won't let me create a CSECT >>> 16MiB. It won't let me create a program with multiple CSECTs >> totalling >16 MiB(?!) Sigh. > >Are you using GOFF? > GOFF is the solution. Thanks

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-07 Thread Peter Relson
>... when IEFBR14 is used to delete a data set ... >Haven't we agreed here that IEFBR14 doesn't delete data sets? Hasn't >IBM learned this yet? To my way of thinking, the statement in the preview is correct and accurate. (Almost) Everyone at some point or other *uses* an EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 job to

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-06 Thread Don Poitras
In article you wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 16:18:07 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote: > > > >"In z/OS V1.11, support is added for data tables contained in load > >modules and program objects to be placed above 2 GB. A new ADDR64 > >

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-06 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 11:13 -0500 on 06/06/2009, Paul Gilmartin wrote about Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support): Nearby in the same document: ... when IEFBR14 is used to delete a data set ... Haven't we agreed here that IEFBR14 doesn't delete data sets? Hasn't IBM learned this

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-06 Thread Edward Jaffe
Paul Gilmartin wrote: By experiment, I discover that HLASM won't let me create a CSECT 16MiB. It won't let me create a program with multiple CSECTs totalling >16 MiB(?!) Sigh. Are you using GOFF? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 L

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-06 Thread Paul Gilmartin
>>read-only data tables. > >Maybe so From the z/OS 1.11 preview: > That's at: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=ca&infotype=an&appname=iSource&supplier=897&letternum=ENUS209-029 >"In z/OS V1.11, support is added for data tables contained in load modules >and prog

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 16:18:07 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote: > >"In z/OS V1.11, support is added for data tables contained in load >modules and program objects to be placed above 2 GB. A new ADDR64 > >constraint relief. I'll hav

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-05 Thread Thompson, Steve
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 5:36 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support) > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mai

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-05 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 4:18 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support) > That one reply about

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-05 Thread Rick Fochtman
--- Maybe so From the z/OS 1.11 preview: "In z/OS V1.11, support is added for data tables contained in load modules and program objects to be placed above 2 GB. A new ADDR64 parameter on the LOAD macro supports loading

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-05 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Marchant > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 1:09 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support) > > Maybe so Fr

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-05 Thread Tom Marchant
On Fri, 5 Jun 2009 11:54:29 -0500, McKown, John wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin >> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:34 AM >> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu >>

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-05 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Scott Rowe > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 12:49 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support) > > There are already

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-05 Thread Scott Rowe
There are already facilities available for sharing data above the bar, why would IBM want to create an "LPA" which cannot contain executable code? How long would it take for some yahoo to put code there and try to execute it? >>> "McKown, John" 6/5/2009 12:54 PM >>> > I could see a use for loa

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-05 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 10:34 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support) > > On Thu, 4 Jun 2

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-05 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 18:33:35 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote: >Jim, a completely different question: can you give us any idea or hint >when we can expect to use executable code above the bar? > Dream on. But it must happen, sooner or later. But IBM might not preannounce it. >In my shop, we have progr

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-05 Thread Chase, John
4 PM > > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > > Subject: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support) > > > > Jim, a completely different question: can you give us any > > idea or hint > > when we can expect to use executable code above the bar? > > > > > >

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-05 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Rick Fochtman > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2009 6:34 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support) > > Jim, a completely

Re: EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-04 Thread Nemo
Rick, You don't need full fledged "executable code above the bar" for what you have described. You could use the SHARE/UNSHARE functions of IARVSERV added to IARV64 - in other words a 64-bit IARVSERV (i.e., captured storage grande). That could be a WHOLE lot easier for IBM to ship than execu

EXEC Above the Bar (Was Large Page Support)

2009-06-04 Thread Rick Fochtman
Jim, a completely different question: can you give us any idea or hint when we can expect to use executable code above the bar? In my shop, we have programs that are executed literally thousands of times per day and program fetch is a significant part of the time involved. Adding these program