FW: Non-SMP/e packaging

2006-09-12 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
While SMP/E may be somewhat cumbersome to use, it is the best repository for keeping information on what exactly is the current maintenance level of a software product. Unloaded libraries may be easier to use but aren't any help when there is a problem and you need to know what level the code is

Re: Fw: Non-SMP/e packaging

2006-09-12 Thread Bruce Black
As for other vendors shipping (only) non-SMP format, that's generally because they have no idea of how to package their product. Perhaps true for some vendors but not Innovation. Our modules don't intersect or depend on any IBM modules, so the checking done by SMP is not useful. These days

FW: Non-SMP/e packaging

2006-09-12 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
You are thinking back to the days when UCC1 zapped IBM O/C/EOV modules instead of using SVCs and exit points to install their code. With zaps you MUST have the correct level of IBM code so pre-req entries were required. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 My experience must

Re: FW: Non-SMP/e packaging

2006-09-12 Thread Tom Schmidt
Exactly right. Back in the good old days when real sysprogs were cowboys and COBOL programmers ran away, scared (and scarred). *smirk* -- Tom Schmidt Madison, WI On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 12:50:56 -0400, Veilleux, Jon L wrote: You are thinking back to the days when UCC1 zapped IBM O/C/EOV

FW: FW: Non-SMP/e packaging

2006-09-12 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2006 1:05 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: FW: Non-SMP/e packaging Exactly right. Back in the good old days when real sysprogs were cowboys and COBOL

Fw: Non-SMP/e packaging

2006-09-11 Thread Shane Ginnane
Forwarded to the list - Russ, can you change you return address please ???. I would think my opinions on non-SMP delivery should be well known. IMHO CA-1 has been very good with regard to SMP for quite a while now. Somewhat of a beacon in that corporation. If it (unloaded, non-SMP delivery)