On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 07:53:35 -0700, Walter Marguccio
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Bill,
I believe what you states, unfortunately I didn't understood that reading
the book.
Yes, Barbara is correct about isolating a system from the plex, but my
point was another one.
If you have a basic plex and you
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:41:20 -0700, Skip Robinson
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To shut down, we VARY XCF OFF. The HMC beeps and turns red. We move on. No
system reset.
Bruce Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Fw: IXC102A automated by SFM ?
What do you do to shutdown? The red icons indicate
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From: Bill Neiman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Walter,
When the documentation speaks about automating IXC102A, what it
really means is that the system will not issue IXC102A at all, with SFM
set up appropriately in a parallel sysplex. Barbara is correct - in a
parallel
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 04/21/2006
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To shut down, we VARY XCF OFF. The HMC beeps and turns red. We move
on. No
system reset.
The VARY XCF OFF puts the system in a wait state, thus the red icon.
But it does not do a system reset.
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 15:33:04 -0700, Skip Robinson
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Without mining thru previous posts--I thought the dangling issue was the
last system down, where SFM no longer has the power to initiate a cleanup.
Isn't that the case where system reset is proposed as necessary?
Also
Jim Mulder wrote:
APAR OY36587 on SP4.1.0 (around 1991) added support for a System Control
Program Initiated Reset. When MVS loads a disabled wait state (for
example, the 0A2 wait state which results from VARY XCF OFF), MVS issues a Diagnose
instruction to initiate the reset and load the
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From: Barbara Nitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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System reset is done automagically in a parallel sysplex (note the parallel
- the CF needs to be there) for all systems except the last one when an SFM
policy is active. No special automation is needed
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System reset needs to be done to get rid of possibly hung RESERVES
that were/are not cleared when the system is wait stated (or so I was
told).
Correct. If you're not going to IPL for a while then you need
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:01:08 -0700, Walter Marguccio
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Yes, IXC102A message is very clear about when to reply DOWN. I think I
read somewhere else (SHARE or IBMMAIN)
that DOWN must be replied only *after* the system has been reset. What I
am seeing is that delaying
the
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 01:01:08 -0700, Walter Marguccio
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Yes, IXC102A message is very clear about when to reply DOWN. I think I
read somewhere
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:23:56 -0700, Skip Robinson
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As I understand this explanation, system reset is a definitive manual
action that guarantees the 'down-ness' of a system. Like the hunter
'making sure' his buddy is really dead. But a total lack of vital signs,
like the
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On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 13:23:56 -0700, Skip Robinson
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As I understand this explanation, system
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As I understand this explanation, system reset is a definitive manual
action that guarantees the 'down-ness' of a system. Like the hunter
'making sure' his buddy is really dead. But a total lack of vital signs,
like the TV-familiar
To shut down, we VARY XCF OFF. The HMC beeps and turns red. We move on. No
system reset.
The VARY XCF OFF puts the system in a wait state, thus the red icon.
But it does not do a system reset. Obviously you can get away without
it, but I recommend it
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Bruce Black
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Sorry guys,
my reply had obviously nothing to do with PDSE and LNKLST ... wrong subject.
Walter Marguccio
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Works quite well here where we get JES2 down ( we forget about Z EOD
here - I was shocked that they did not do it here, but
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Sorry guys,
my reply had obviously nothing to do with PDSE and LNKLST ... wrong
subject.
Walter
Hello Skip,
A System Reset Normal will get the processor to close all channels for
that lpar.
Some years back I had a discussion here about StandAlone dump process, and
this was discussed then
Regards
Bruce Hewson
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I've never understood why a wait-stated system needs to be system reset.
I can't see any harm in a system reset, but really, does anyone know why
it's done? If so, we need to retrain all our operators. ;-)
System reset needs to be done to get rid of possibly hung RESERVES that
were/are not
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