Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-10-08 Thread Karl-Heinz Doppelfeld
Sorry, some formatting was wrong because I have cutted the code out of an another REXX and forgot some formatting. I have also inserted a check whether we found a lpar/partition. When not, do not create a report and give only a information that the HMC - security option switch - GLOBAL PERFORMANCE

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-10-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Thu, 7 Oct 2010 08:58:53 -0500, Mark Zelden mzel...@flash.net wrote: Below are descriptions of the option from the HMC, which has a nice simple explanation and the second one is from the PR/SM manual (z9 EC, but this hasn't changed): snip Actually, the description has been updated to

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-10-07 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010 03:01:28 -0500, Karl-Heinz Doppelfeld karl-heinz.doppelf...@f-i.de wrote: Hello, here is little bit REXX code to retrieve the information you want. But after reading the previous updates i think it only works when the HMC 'Global performance control option' was set. snip

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-10-06 Thread Karl-Heinz Doppelfeld
Hello, here is little bit REXX code to retrieve the information you want. But after reading the previous updates i think it only works when the HMC 'Global performance control option' was set. This REXX runs under z/OS 1.10 on z9 and z10, no other configs tested. /* rexx */

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-10-05 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In aanlktim=pmkm_6aqo6jsa8lfqmsmoj78o4ku2+hp2...@mail.gmail.com, on 10/03/2010 at 11:28 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: The part of what I wrote that you didn't quote was But since anyone can use any port number they like for anything, and we live in a NAT world, there's decreasing

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-10-03 Thread Tony Harminc
On 2 October 2010 20:42, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote:   at 01:45 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: No - IANA registers port numbers. IANA registers well known port numbers. That doesn't preclude use of those port numbers for other purposes. The part of

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-10-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In aanlkti=ucypc-3di4nh9b6_s5onvau8txriyyg7wc...@mail.gmail.com, on 09/22/2010 at 01:45 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: No - IANA registers port numbers. IANA registers well known port numbers. That doesn't preclude use of those port numbers for other purposes. -- Shmuel

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-23 Thread Andrew Armstrong
Steve, You could implement SSDP in your agents. I'm no expert on it but it's worth a look: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Service_Discovery_Protocol The problem may reduce to identifying instances of your agent. Cheers, Andrew On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 09:06:00 +0100, Steve Austin

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-23 Thread Steve Austin
Where is this documented? Thanks Steve -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Norman Hollander on DesertWiz Sent: 22 September 2010 19:10 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-23 Thread Rob Scott
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Austin Sent: 23 September 2010 12:54 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC Where is this documented? Thanks Steve -Original Message- From: IBM

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-22 Thread Steve Austin
Williams Sent: 21 September 2010 22:47 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC Why would a dishonest customer be willing to grant your product the security it needs to validate the seating arrangements (assuming that is your intent)? [Think security exit, etc

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-22 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Don Williams Sent: 21 September 2010 22:47 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC Why would a dishonest customer be willing to grant your product the security it needs

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-22 Thread Steve Austin
: Identify all MVS images in a CEC Just curious: if you can identify an MVS image, how do you know your agent is running on that system and how do you know how to contact it? They might well be running in totally separated sysplexes and dasd/vtam/ip configurations. Kees. Steve Austin steve.aus

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-22 Thread Mike Schwab
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 3:06 AM, Steve Austin steve.aus...@macro4.com wrote: Thanks for all your responses. Essentially I'm looking for a method of identifying MVS images so that I can talk to my agent running in each of those images. If my agent is not running on an image then neither is any

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-22 Thread Vernooij, CP - SPLXM
Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Sent: 22 September 2010 09:16 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC Just curious: if you can identify an MVS image, how do you know your agent is running on that system and how

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-22 Thread Stan Weyman
...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Don Williams Sent: 21 September 2010 22:47 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC Why would a dishonest customer be willing to grant your product the security it needs to validate the seating arrangements (assuming that is your intent)? [Think

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-22 Thread Tony Harminc
On 22 September 2010 04:54, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: If you are running multiple mainframes, communicating through the mainframe partitioning manager would not detect the other mainframes. Does IBM register mainframe TCP/IP port numbers, like it does for 3 digit message

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-22 Thread Norman Hollander on DesertWiz
: Identify all MVS images in a CEC On 22 September 2010 04:54, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: If you are running multiple mainframes, communicating through the mainframe partitioning manager would not detect the other mainframes. Does IBM register mainframe TCP/IP port numbers, like

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-21 Thread R.S.
Barbara Nitz pisze: Mark, Some people mentioned RMF data to see the other partitions (be it RMF III or SMF 70 records / post processor). The ability for one LPAR's data to to show up in other LPARs' SMF 70 records is a security option on the HMC for that LPAR. I've never worked in an

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-21 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:37:09 -0500, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: Mark, Some people mentioned RMF data to see the other partitions (be it RMF III or SMF 70 records / post processor). The ability for one LPAR's data to to show up in other LPARs' SMF 70 records is a security option on the

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-21 Thread Don Williams
just abide by the contract as agreed. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Austin Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Identify all MVS images in a CEC I am researching seat based

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-21 Thread Barbara Nitz
Hi Mark, If you look at an image profile on the HMC there is a security tab. Under that tab there is an option called Global performance data control. By default it is checked (on). you're right. It is turned on. I would never have connected this to the Type70 records, and I don't think anyone

Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-20 Thread Steve Austin
I am researching seat based licensing for Cloud computing on z/OS and have the following question. From an MVS image is it possible to identify all other active MVS images in the CEC even if some of those images are not in a sysplex? Thanks Steve -

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-20 Thread Barbara Nitz
I am researching seat based licensing for Cloud computing on z/OS and have the following question. From an MVS image is it possible to identify all other active MVS images in the CEC even if some of those images are not in a sysplex? The SMF Type 70 records identify all defined lpars on a CEC.

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-20 Thread Mike Shorkend
What about RMF monitor III? The CPC command shows all LPARS including z/OS, CF and z/VM On Mon, Sep 20, 2010 at 9:59 AM, Barbara Nitz nitz-...@gmx.net wrote: I am researching seat based licensing for Cloud computing on z/OS and have the following question. From an MVS image is it possible

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-20 Thread Barbara Nitz
What about RMF monitor III? The CPC command shows all LPARS including z/OS, CF and z/VM Yes, and that's what the SMF70 records are also showing. But unless you know the naming convention for lpars and system names, you cannot distinguish if that lpar is running z/OS, z/VM or (native) zLinux.

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-20 Thread Mike Shorkend
Barbara - very true regarding LPAR names , but this gave me another idea. The newer HMC (2.10.x ?) shows an OS type for each LPAR. You could write some code using BCPii (or the older SNMP API) to harvest this information for each LPAR. I think that this answers the OP's request? On Mon, Sep 20,

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-20 Thread Ted MacNEIL
Which is why every mvs system (or VM, for that matter) can be IPL'd in just about any lpar (provided the necessary hardware is defined to that lpar). We used to do that, at one place I worked, but, during the implementation of GDPS, we lost that flexibility. Our automation team claimed it was

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-20 Thread Stan Weyman
It is wise to keep in mind that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Austin Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:41 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Identify all MVS images in a CEC I

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-20 Thread Stan Weyman
... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Shorkend Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 4:38 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC Barbara - very true regarding LPAR names , but this gave me another

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-20 Thread Field, Alan C.
. Alan -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Steve Austin Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 02:41 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Identify all MVS images in a CEC I am researching seat based licensing for Cloud computing on z

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-20 Thread Stan Weyman
that neither success nor failure is ever final... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Field, Alan C. Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 9:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC I see you are from

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-20 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Tony Harminc Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 11:57 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC On 20 September 2010 04:37, Mike Shorkend mike.shork

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-20 Thread Tony Harminc
On 20 September 2010 04:37, Mike Shorkend mike.shork...@gmail.com wrote: Barbara - very true regarding LPAR names , but this gave me another idea. The newer HMC (2.10.x ?) shows an OS type for each LPAR. You could write some code using  BCPii (or the older SNMP API) to harvest this information

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-20 Thread R.S.
W dniu 2010-09-20 18:57, Tony Harminc pisze: On 20 September 2010 04:37, Mike Shorkendmike.shork...@gmail.com wrote: Barbara - very true regarding LPAR names , but this gave me another idea. The newer HMC (2.10.x ?) shows an OS type for each LPAR. You could write some code using BCPii (or the

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-20 Thread Mark Zelden
On Mon, 20 Sep 2010 21:45:35 +0200, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: How can the HMC know the operating system type running in an LPAR? It's one thing if the customer provides some info as a comment or via their naming scheme, but surely the HMC/CEC don't run any sort of AI

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-20 Thread Jim Mulder
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu wrote on 09/20/2010 04:17:01 PM: How can the HMC know the operating system type running in an LPAR? It's one thing if the customer provides some info as a comment or via their naming scheme, but surely the HMC/CEC don't run any sort of AI

Re: Identify all MVS images in a CEC

2010-09-20 Thread Barbara Nitz
Mark, Some people mentioned RMF data to see the other partitions (be it RMF III or SMF 70 records / post processor). The ability for one LPAR's data to to show up in other LPARs' SMF 70 records is a security option on the HMC for that LPAR. I've never worked in an environment where it was