On 27 May 2008 10:07:46 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Merritt)
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>Why revolutionary? Because that model appeals to a basic human
>assumption that new is better and that model has been -very- successful
>in a number of industries. Tried and true simply isn't cool, especially
>to the less exper
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> Why revolutionar
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True, MF skill sets seem to carry grey hair, close attention to
retirement benefits, and boring pictures of grandchildren. Not to
mention cranky OF's ;-)
Also true is the proliferation of tinkertoy skill sets. But wait,
something's wrong with that pic
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There are alternatives to "extinct" and "still going strong".
The main one is "evolving".
Well, I could argue that is something "evolves" enough, then what it
used to be is now "extinct". E.g. T-Rex and Chickens .
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On 27 May 2008 07:28:24 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Merritt)
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>Some potential good news is that auditors may be (finally) starting to apply
>the same rules to the tinkertoys as the MF.
The security solutions that need to protect data on a stolen laptop
are not the same security solution
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I don't suppose you could publish any details (even if you have to leave
the company name out)?
Ken Porowski
AVP Systems So
On Mon, 26 May 2008 15:54:18 -0400, John S. Giltner, Jr. wrote:
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>Now, the definitions of "small" and "large" change from year to year.
>One time small was 50 MIPS or under, now it might be 500 or even 1,000.
Indeed.
I remember being in the biggest computer room I've ever seen, with ten of the
True, MF skill sets seem to carry grey hair, close attention to retirement
benefits, and boring pictures of grandchildren. Not to mention cranky OF's ;-)
Also true is the proliferation of tinkertoy skill sets. But wait, something's
wrong with that picture.
Perhaps it is that the skill sets ar
I don't suppose you could publish any details (even if you have to leave
the company name out)?
Ken Porowski
AVP Systems Software
CIT Group
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Robert Fake
One such company was in the 11th year of a 2 year migration and finally
canceled it and is takin
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F wrote:
> We use IMS and DB2 on z/OS today and was wondering if we should consider
> moving to distributed systems
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> There are alter
There are alternatives to "extinct" and "still going strong".
The main one is "evolving".
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F wrote:
> We use IMS and DB2 on z/OS today and was wondering if we should consider
> moving to distributed systems like Oracle or SQL Server.
>
> Reason being, we are concerned about mainframe skill sets on IMS and
> DB2. Also the news around many systems moving away from mainframes keeps
> us won
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