Re: Mount a tape in flexes

2006-02-16 Thread Duane Reaugh
VOLSER VOLSTATE 0560 3480 A-BSY-R IC0413 PRIV/REMOV 0561 3480 OFFLINE /REMOV -Original Message- Subject: Mount a tape in flexes Hi all, First of all sorry for such a vague question which

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-06 Thread Robert A. Rosenberg
At 01:07 -0600 on 02/02/2006, Bruce Hewson wrote about Re: Mount a tape: Volume mounts can be done manually or the system can automatically do it for you. Manual mounts are done via Console Operator command. Automatic mounts are performed when allocation requires a volume not currently

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-03 Thread Bruce Black
Jerry did reply and clarify eventually, except that he used two other threads ('Mount a tape in flexes', 'IBMLINK vs techsupport.service.ibm.com') instead of this one. Ah so. I didn't notice those were from him (especially the second one). Even the first subject mad

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-03 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Louis Krupp wrote: > Don't forget the write ring. Leave it off when you intended to write to > the tape, and you had to unload and reload the tape all over again. > Leave it on when you didn't mean to, and the tape might get purged by > mistake. i had some stuff from the late 60s and early 70s re

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-03 Thread Kok, Howi
I agree too. That was why I threw out some questions to try to clarify his situation. Jerry did reply and clarify eventually, except that he used two other threads ('Mount a tape in flexes', 'IBMLINK vs techsupport.service.ibm.com') instead of this one. Howi Kok -Origin

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-03 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/02/2006 at 03:06 PM, Anne & Lynn Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >the 1401 was used for unit record<->tape frontend for 709; 709? You didn't trade it in on a 7090? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-03 Thread Bruce Black
I really think that in this type of question, someone should basically ask for clarification, and then everyone should wait until the person furthur states his question. If not, why waste all of the bandwidth answering maybe this is what he wanted. Agreed. It would have been nice if Jerry ha

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-02 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 2, 2006, at 10:55 AM, Rob Scott wrote: I have never mounted a 3420-type tape. There - I have said it - and I feel much better. If you put me in front of such a device with a nice big 6250bpi tape in my hands - my face will bear the same pitiful puzzled expression often observed by my

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-02 Thread Chris Mason
uary, 2006 11:10 PM Subject: Re: Mount a tape > I think this whole discussion was rather interesting. Jerry asked how > to mount a tape, which I thought had to do with physically mounting the > tape. Someone or two said that such a basic question shouldn't be > answered on th

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-02 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I think this whole discussion was rather interesting. Jerry asked how to mount a tape, which I thought had to do with physically mounting the tape. Someone or two said that such a basic question shouldn't be answered on this forum. Then it was discussed that even these basic ques

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-02 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
g the person wanted to know how to > physically mount a tape. After all he didn't ask about JCL or a > program or a console command. That got me to thinking about how I > learned back in the barely light years. (They didn't have computers > in the dark ages). In my very f

Re: Mount a tape in flexes

2006-02-02 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/2/2006 8:15:44 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi have a FLEXES based emulated z/OS 1.6 and I have a tape drive attached to it. Now I have a 3480 catridge, which has a installation setup in it. I need to get the some contents of in to my DASD.

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-02 Thread Tomas J Fott
What is the message on the display on your tape drive? If it is Mxx where xx is volser, then insert tape cartridge. If it is NT RDY, then press green button READY. If it is blank, then your unit address 590 is emulated drive, not real tape drive. Issue the command D M=DEV(590) Tomas --

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-02 Thread Chase, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Rob Scott > > I have never mounted a 3420-type tape. > > There - I have said it - and I feel much better. Had to mount a few hundred 3420 tapes on a 3430 drive once -- *LARGE* PITA And those big "outer rings" we

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-02 Thread Rob Scott
I have never mounted a 3420-type tape. There - I have said it - and I feel much better. If you put me in front of such a device with a nice big 6250bpi tape in my hands - my face will bear the same pitiful puzzled expression often observed by my Dad when he is trying to get me to do DIY or car ma

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-02 Thread Desi de la Garza
You have hit the mother load... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan MOEYERSONS Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 7:03 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mount a tape >Please let me know how to mount a t

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-02 Thread Bruce Black
I was trying to stay out of this thread because I thought it was a homework or some other such question but having seen some of the responses, I have an urgent need to add my thoughts. When I first saw the question, I was thinking the person wanted to know how to physically mount a tape. I

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-02 Thread Stephen M. Wiegand
:27 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mount a tape Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is mounted or not. Jerry, in all the replies, some of them sort of testy, no one has actually responded to you, so let me try. You did ask a very broad question

Re: Mount a tape in flexes

2006-02-02 Thread Mike Bell
One basic question - have you used the tape on the 1.6 image before? If not, there is a whole list of steps to make sure the device type matches the z/os device type and the tape is online to unix, so the flex instance can see it. Check the manuals at funsoft and the flex listserv archives. Mike

Mount a tape in flexes

2006-02-02 Thread Jerry Ragland
OUNT 590 OR REPLY 'NO' I tried reply 17 with 590 but it is not accepting. >From your earlier reponses I understand that there might me a separate procedure to mount a tape in FLEXES based z/OS. Please let me know how to proceed in this case. Hope I am clear... Thanks i

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-02 Thread Jim Marshall
>Hi all, > >Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is >mounted or not. > >Thanks in advance. >-Jerry Hope Jerry is not intimidated by grumpy old mainframers. I would like to hear the question expanded. Even if this is for school, I would be inte

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/01/2006 at 10:33 AM, "McKown, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >And me, being really nasty, would likely go into reminisces and >detail how, in the old days, we had to route the tape out of the >reel, through the capstans, down and up the vacuum chambers, You had

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-02 Thread Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/01/2006 at 05:16 PM, Chris Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >What's that expression used on your side of the pond, "Let's cut some >slack here"? The question is "How much?" >Let us assume that I knew there were incredibly helpful newsgroups >available where every

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-02 Thread Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on 02/01/2006 at 11:28 AM, "Porowski, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Perhaps I might have asked this newsgroup First, most of us aren't reading a news group. Second, on most news groups the author of such an article would have been soundly flamed rather than mildly q

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-02 Thread Jan MOEYERSONS
>Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is >mounted or not. - Pick up the reel of tape. - Put it on the capestan of the tapedrive, the number of which is indicated in the mount message on the console. - Press the LOAD button. - Press the RESET button. Cheers,

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Bruce Hewson
will display the status of the device. is the device number. For system requested mounts the device number is part of the message. On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 09:06:12 -0600, Jerry Ragland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi all, > >Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to ve

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread SArnett
That's an ugly picture! James Smith wrote: No I think the question then would have been "how do I mount a dead parrot?" -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread James Smith
No I think the question then would have been "how do I mount a dead parrot?" -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Gould Sent: 02 February 2006 10:41 To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mount a tape Are we

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Ed Gould
On Feb 1, 2006, at 3:01 PM, Bruce Black wrote: Way to go Bruce. Helping out Jerry has made you a better person no matter how silly the question was. Are we up for the Minisitry of silly mounts? :) Ed Not possible, I'm already perfect -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FD

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Thomas H Puddicombe
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Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Ted was a bit harsh I appologise for the harshness, but not the sentiment. I truly believe you should do your homework, post your examples, explain what you are trying to accomplish, etc. This is not M/F-101 - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I believe in! ---

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Bruce Black
Way to go Bruce. Helping out Jerry has made you a better person no matter how silly the question was. Not possible, I'm already perfect -- Bruce A. Black Senior Software Developer for FDR Innovation Data Processing 973-890-7300 personal: [EMAIL PROTECTED] sales info: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tech sup

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Steve Arnett
There is still a possibility that Bruce did not help him. If he is running Hercules under Linux, he may have wanted to know how to a) access an AWSTAPE format tape image or b) how to issue a Linux mount command to access a 3480/3490/etc cartridge. Desi de la Garza wrote: Way to go Bruce. He

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Desi de la Garza
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mount a tape > > Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is > mounted or not. Jerry, in all the replies, some of them sort of testy, no one has actually responded to you, so let me try. You did ask a very broad question with no details so I

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>What's that expression used on your side of the pond, "Let's cut some slack here"? I'm sorry, but considering how basic the question was, I thought it was a 'teach me everything about IT' type. Those have been denounced before. I have no trouble helping, but we are not here to teach from the g

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Mark Zelden
On Wed, 1 Feb 2006 11:41:20 -0600, Matthew Stitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'm going to assume that he needs the MVS Mount command. > > I like your imagination, but I doubt that is what he wanted. If he had he probably would know a bit more and said something like: "how can I access a tape in

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Bruce Black
Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is mounted or not. Jerry, in all the replies, some of them sort of testy, no one has actually responded to you, so let me try. You did ask a very broad question with no details so I can't be very specific. This does

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Steve Arnett
There are also REAL machines out there that are trying to act like massive mainframes, not just PCs. The MP/3000 is the size of a two drawer filing cabinet, but can have 200+ MIPs(H70). That is a small machine, but not a small system! Chris Mason wrote: Matthew, I dare say you've manage

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Chris Mason
ssive mainframe of my feeble imagination with roomfuls of spinning disks and tapes and blinking lights everywhere. Chris Mason - Original Message - From: "Matthew Stitt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Wednesday, 01 February, 2006 6:

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Ed Finnell
In a message dated 2/1/2006 10:34:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: how, in the old days, we had to route the tape out of the reel, through the capstans, down and up the vacuum chambers, and onto the take-up reel. >> Every see a 'metal' tape? Weighed almost thirty

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Matthew Stitt
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >Of Kok, Howi >Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:47 AM >To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU >Subject: Re: Mount a tape > >Let us not be senseless and careless dinosaurs. This is one of the >reasons we are an endan

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Desi de la Garza
@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mount a tape Let us not be senseless and careless dinosaurs. This is one of the reasons we are an endangered species. It is ok and good that he asked. Those of you who have been around a long time should be gracious to teach the newbie, anything about the mainframe. All

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Desi de la Garza
D] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:02 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Mount a tape >>Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is >mounted or not. > >This is a pre-newbie question. > >If you have to ask, you sh

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Kok, Howi
s and didn't know how to mount a tape. Someone was gracious enough to teach us. It is our turn to do the same. It sounds like Jerry doesn't have someone to show him hands-on at this time. Let's start by finding out what you already knew. Do you know the volume serial number of th

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Porowski, Ken > Sent: Wednesday, February 01, 2006 10:28 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: Mount a tape > > > And you (not being a complete newbie)

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Porowski, Ken
And you (not being a complete newbie) would have posted your JCL and error messages ... Ken Porowski -Original Message- Chris Mason Let us assume that I knew there were incredibly helpful newsgroups available where every technical problem can be mulled over in detail and that I hadn't

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Mark Zelden
>>Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is >mounted or not. > >This is a pre-newbie question. > >If you have to ask, you shouldn't be anywhere near a terminal (or a mainframe)! > Ted was a bit harsh, but I am curious why you could

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Chris Mason
l Message - From: "Ted MacNEIL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main To: Sent: Wednesday, 01 February, 2006 1:00 AM Subject: Re: Mount a tape >Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is mounted or not. This is a pre-newbie qu

Re: Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Ted MacNEIL
>Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is mounted or not. This is a pre-newbie question. If you have to ask, you shouldn't be anywhere near a terminal (or a mainframe)! - -teD I’m an enthusiastic proselytiser of the universal panacea I be

Mount a tape

2006-02-01 Thread Jerry Ragland
Hi all, Please let me know how to mount a tape and how to verify whether it is mounted or not. Thanks in advance. -Jerry -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with