Multiple logon SMCS possibility

2010-04-20 Thread van Ek, Marcel
We are setting up a few SMCS consoles for remote access. It appears that you can only logon with the same userid once. I can understand that if it were on the same lpar, But is there a way we can reuse the same userid to logon to an SMCS console on different lpars (uid defined on all lpars, di

Antwort: Multiple logon SMCS possibility

2010-04-20 Thread Werner Kuehnel
Marcel, we have two separate LPARs and can logon to each SMCS console with the same UID. There is no restriction. However, the 2 LPARs have different system names (SYS1, SYS5) and we use system symbols in SMCS definitions to differentiate between them. Werner Kuehnel IMD-Gesellschaft für Inform

Re: Multiple logon SMCS possibility

2010-04-23 Thread Bruce Hewson
Hello Marcel, As per SYSPLEX architecture, that is "single image management of multiple servers", the CONSOLE team have restricted console logons as one time per sysplex. Why do you need to logon more than once to a sysplex consoleeven if there are multiple systems within the sysplex. Thi

Re: Multiple logon SMCS possibility

2010-04-23 Thread Don Williams
Several years ago, I asked IBM why they prohibit users from concurrent sign-on to multiple consoles, and was told that it is working as designed. He noted that I was not the first to complain. I hope that IBM will change their design and allow users to sign-on to multiple consoles. Until then, you'

Re: Multiple logon SMCS possibility

2010-04-25 Thread Barry Merrill
Dr. Alan Scherr told me over dinner years ago that on the final night of testing TSO before it's first release, they had taken a "dinner" break at 2am, and when he came back, he logged on and could enter commands, but there was no reply to his terminal, until, many minutes later, a co-worker acro

Re: Multiple logon SMCS possibility

2010-04-26 Thread Don Williams
Too bad Dr. Alan Scherr had a tight schedule and did not have the time to expand the design to allow a user multiple concurrent logons to TSO. Of course, most users accept the restriction, but over the past 30+ years, I've had many dozens of complaints about it. To me, it would be a mistake to for

Re: Multiple logon SMCS possibility

2010-04-26 Thread Edward Jaffe
Don Williams wrote: Too bad Dr. Alan Scherr had a tight schedule and did not have the time to expand the design to allow a user multiple concurrent logons to TSO. Of course, most users accept the restriction, but over the past 30+ years, I've had many dozens of complaints about it. To me, it woul

Re: Multiple logon SMCS possibility

2010-04-27 Thread van Ek, Marcel
Thanks all for your reactions. One more thing: I assume nothing changes with the introduction of possibility to run consoles in Distributed mode rather than Shared mode? Regards, Marcel van Ek -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signo

Re: Multiple logon SMCS possibility

2010-04-27 Thread Don Williams
ject: Re: Multiple logon SMCS possibility > > Don Williams wrote: > > Too bad Dr. Alan Scherr had a tight schedule and did not have the > time to > > expand the design to allow a user multiple concurrent logons to TSO. > Of > > course, most users accept the restrict

Re: Multiple logon SMCS possibility

2010-04-27 Thread Hal Merritt
l 23, 2010 10:15 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Multiple logon SMCS possibility Several years ago, I asked IBM why they prohibit users from concurrent sign-on to multiple consoles, and was told that it is working as designed. He noted that I was not the first to complain. I hope that IBM w

Re: Multiple logon SMCS possibility

2010-04-27 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 10:12 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Multiple logon SMCS possibility > > Technical issues notwiths

Re: Multiple logon SMCS possibility

2010-04-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:12:02 -0500, Hal Merritt wrote: >Technical issues notwithstanding, I would suggest that the behavior was driven >(at least in part) by audit demands that multiple logons with a single ID be >blocked to prevent users from sharing ID's. > >Giving one user multiple ID's is al

Re: Multiple logon SMCS possibility

2010-04-27 Thread Paul Gilmartin
On Tue, 27 Apr 2010 10:23:15 -0500, McKown, John wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List >> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Hal Merritt >> >> I guess the audit approved path would be to require the user >> to sign on, perform the task, then sign off.

Re: Multiple logon SMCS possibility

2010-04-27 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2010-04-27 at 11:32 -0400, Paul Gilmartin wrote: > That becomes irrelevant (for TSO, at least), when the consoles are virtual > screens on a single physical device. Oh... VNC. Good catch. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / sign

Re: Multiple logon SMCS possibility

2010-04-27 Thread Don Williams
ted to detect these situations and automatically provide an appropriate Don Williams > -Original Message- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On > Behalf Of Hal Merritt > Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 11:12 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subje

Re: Antwort: Multiple logon SMCS possibility

2010-04-20 Thread van Ek, Marcel
Werner wrote: "we have two separate LPARs and can logon to each SMCS console with the same UID. There is no restriction. However, the 2 LPARs have different system names (SYS1, SYS5) and we use system symbols in SMCS definitions to differentiate between them." Thanks Werner, that's exactly h