On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 12:40:26 -0500, Robert Pelletier
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>The job just worked using &&work files. It failed all morning with &&work.
Any ideas? Does an LE program require a lot of storage? It looks like our
PUBLIC volumes have plenty of space. Thanks all.
>
>Think Spring !!!
Robert,
This looks like a SORT application. Are you using SyncSort and have you
applied mandatory maintenance SY62470? We did, even though it fixes
hardware we do not have and then started getting 0C4's on jobs restarted by
CA-11 (i.e. having funny delete/define processing - don't quote me).
I woul
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> - But when allocated as a &&-dataset, it is somehow (?) allocated
>in virtual memory.
Unless there's an enhancement to VIO that I don't know about, SAM
doesn't directly use the VIO pages; it runs a sim
Are the tempy files being switched to VIO at your place?
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>Stupid Question: Can a &&TEMP Dataset span a volume? Or is this a Mod-9 or
Mod-23??
You bet. Just tried it, and my SRS product kicked in and added volumes to
the &&temp file I had allocated, just like it should.
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Subject: Re: PROTECTION EXCEPTION 0C4 - Job Doesn't Work When &&Dataset Used
Robert,
I suppose you have a dump when S0C4 occurs. Can you force a dump during the
"OK" run, for example by adding TIME=(,3) on the EXEC stmt? If you have both
dumps, you can compare them a
Robert,
I suppose you have a dump when S0C4 occurs. Can you force a dump during
the "OK" run, for example by adding TIME=(,3) on the EXEC stmt? If you
have both dumps, you can compare them and see what's different, such as
module placement, memory allocation, etc. This may give you a clue as
If it's going to VIO, then that could change the assigned BLKSIZE since
this can be different geometry, which might uncover some kind of bug in the
program.
Bill
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>Wow, I love this kind of problem. I ran the following J
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Here is my theory:
Use DISP=(NEW,PASS)
Also this looks very much like a program which may write data to a file,
close the file, and then read
Here is my theory:
Use DISP=(NEW,PASS)
Also this looks very much like a program which may write data to a file,
close the file, and then read the data back in.
On a temporary dataset, it my be getting deleted after the close.
Are the temporary datasets being directed to disk or VIO?
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at 12:26 PM, Robert Pelletier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>Hi All. Once again I look to the group for help. I am at a total loss
>and have test extensively.
1. Are there any IEC... messages?
2. What is the Interrupt code?
3. In what module is it taking
Wow, I love this kind of problem. I ran the following JCL with IEFBR14:
//NEWGUY1 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE),SPACE=(TRK,1),DSN=TED066.TEST
//NEWGUY2 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE),SPACE=(TRK,1),DSN=&&TEST
//NEWGUY3 DD DISP=(NEW,DELETE),SPACE=(TRK,1)
The resulting allocations shown below differ in two wa
>Could the problem be related to the && dsns being the same as the ddnames?
That shouldn't matter.
The programme knows the DDNAME (file name), not the DSNAME (file name).
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Also look at the MESSAGES dataset, for example, there is a BIG
difference between these allocations:
IGD103I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME SMPLOGA
IGD100I VIO ALLOCATED TO DDNAME SYSUT1 DATACLAS ()
IGD101I SMS ALLOCATED TO DDNAME (IMAGCOP1)
DSN (x
As David Andrews mentioned it could be that the program tries to read after EOF.
And I think You mentioned that with larger allocation it took a longer time to
abend ?
So maybe it is like this:
- The program always reads one more time after EOF.
- Sometimes the position after EOF is on the end
Thanks all. Going to try to get the source code. Not sure they will give it up.
Thanks again.
Bob Pelletier
Connecticut Student Loan Foundation
Rocky Hill, Connecticut
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On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 13:53:42 -0500, Robert Pelletier
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>Hi. We thought it was a space issue initially so we made the &&work large.
For a while it seemed to get the job to run by upping the && allocation.
Looks like a coincidence. We have run it with the same input and with
PROTECTION EXCEPTION 0C4 - Job Doesn't Work When &&Dataset Used
Hi All. Once again I look to the group for help. I am at a total loss
and have test extensively. This is the issue:
If I use the following && JCL the job fails consistently with an 0C4:
//WORK
Do your public/storage volumes have different geometries? (That is,
does the system select different blocksizes?)
I notice that the files in question are RECFM=VB. A *very* long time
ago, with a COBOL compiler that Zeus used in grade school, you had to be
careful writing variable-length records
Could the problem be related to the && dsns being the same as the ddnames?
Debbie Mitchell
Utica National Insurance Group
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Hi All. Once again I look to the group for help. I am at a total loss and
have test extensively. This is the issue:
If I use the following && JCL the job fails co
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This is all I found:
IEF450I TRAM1SFA STEP02 - ABEND=S0C4 U REASON=0004
CEE
Maybe you need to see if you can identify the module containing the
failing instruction, then look at the logic in that area if it is your
app code.
I'll bet on table overflow OR reading from a file after it's closed.
Some of my apps people provide good examples of abends from time to
time
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Hi All. Once again I look to the group for help. I am at a total loss
and have test extensively. This is the issue:
If I use the following && JCL the job fails consistently with an 0C4:
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No first step is a IEFBR14 to delete some files.
Think Spring !!!
Bob Pelletier
Connecticut Student Loan Foundation
Rocky Hill, Connecticut
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rather to data volumes, or to some problem with the n'th input record?
Charles
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The job just worked using &&work files. It failed all morning with &&work. Any
ideas? Does an LE program require a lot of storage? It looks like our PUBLIC
volumes have plenty of space. Thanks all.
Think Spring !!!
Bob Pelletier
Connecticut Student Loan Foundation
Rocky Hill, Connec
By any chance do you create &&WORKxx in prior steps in the same job?
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Hi All. Once again I look to the group for help. I am at a total loss and have
test extensively. This is the issue:
If I use the following && JCL the job fails consistently with an 0C4:
//WORK01 DD DISP=NEW,UNIT=SYSDA,SPACE=(CYL,(4300,5)),
//LRECL=8192,BLKSIZE=0,RECFM=VB,DSN=&&WO
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