>>We've probably all thought that looking (in ignorance perhaps) at
>>perl initially.
>Not I. Admittedly I thought[1] that Perl was ugly, but I also thought
>that it was useful.
>[1] In fact, I still think that it's ugly. But I use it when it's
>the best tool for the task at hand.
> Shm
In <1307526334117142.wa.jbendichaustin.rr@bama.ua.edu>, on
07/23/2011
at 12:27 AM, "Justin R. Bendich" said:
>No matter what the version, perl is an abomination unto the LORD.
De gustibus. I would describe C in those terms.
>Really, you can't use REXX?
I do use Rexx, and have even publ
In <20110723171032.521978da@xpfs>, on 07/23/2011
at 05:10 PM, Shane said:
>We've probably all thought that looking (in ignorance perhaps) at
>perl initially.
Not I. Admittedly I thought[1] that Perl was ugly, but I also thought
that it was useful.
[1] In fact, I still think that it's ugly. B
Heretic!
I love Perl. But REXX is very good too. But I would like ooREXX on z/OS.
And I want Perl regular expressions put into legacy z/OS facilities,
including REXX. I'd love the PDF editor to be able to do Perl, or even
POSIX, regular expression finds and changes! It already has the p'...'
for
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 00:27:13 -0500 "Justin R. Bendich"wrote:
> No matter what the version, perl is an abomination
We've probably all thought that looking (in ignorance perhaps) at perl
initially.
Once having learnt it to some extent, it is astoundingly efficient and
flexible. When was the last ti
>>I do not know if it is from the IBM Ported Tools or where, but we
>>have Perl on z/OS:
>That's 5.8.7; it's well and truly obsolete.
No matter what the version, perl is an abomination unto the LORD.
Really, you can't use REXX? Maybe with a dash of ASM thrown in?
--
> Shmuel (Seymour J.)
In <1311257568.41045.yahoomai...@web82206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, on
07/21/2011
at 07:12 AM, Lloyd Fuller said:
>I do not know if it is from the IBM Ported Tools or where, but we
>have Perl on z/OS:
That's 5.8.7; it's well and truly obsolete.
--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT
In <3204749345014098.wa.paulgboulderaim@bama.ua.edu>, on
07/21/2011
at 08:51 AM, Paul Gilmartin said:
>Has anyone tried compiling it with the ASCII compiler switch (and
>XPLINK) and relying on code page autoconversion?
I doubt it.
>Would this even be useful?
I doubt it.
>What is the i
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:10:43 -0500, McKown, John wrote:
>[If] I had access to IBM's C compiler, I might actually try it. But I don't,
>so I can't. Perhaps I could afford Dignus' compiler to run at home on my Linux
>machine and do cross compiles. But I don't know and I'm short on "disposable
>i
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 11:02 -0400, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> (And David A. attributed to me a statement where I was merely quoting Shmuel.
Erk. My bad, as the kids say.
--
David Andrews
A. Duda & Sons, Inc.
david.andr...@duda.com
--
1 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Perl (was: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively
> replacing JCL with Unix like commands)
>
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:03:51 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
> >
> >Well, pipes are sometimes useful.
> >
> Amen.
>
>
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:46:54 -0500, Lutz Hamann
wrote:
>But AFAIK you have to order PERL explicitly as a Ported Tool feature while
>'composing' your ServerPac
>in Shopz. It won't be delivered automatically as I remember.
>
>Pls. correct me when I should be wrong ...
>
The link Kirk posted:
But AFAIK you have to order PERL explicitly as a Ported Tool feature while
'composing' your ServerPac
in Shopz. It won't be delivered automatically as I remember.
Pls. correct me when I should be wrong ...
ciao Lutz
--
F
VERSYSB/usr/lpp/perl/lib/5.8.7/
>
> Lloyd
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message
> From: Paul Gilmartin
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Sent: Thu, July 21, 2011 9:51:22 AM
> Subject: Perl (was: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with
> Unix
> like command
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 10:12 -0400, Lloyd Fuller wrote:
> /VERSYSB/usr/lpp/perl/lib/5.8.7/
As does our 1.10 system. But my Linux desktop is running 5.12.3 and Gil
did say "no current Perl".
--
David Andrews
A. Duda & Sons, Inc.
david.andr...@duda.com
I do not know if it is from the IBM Ported Tools or where, but we have Perl on
z/OS:
/VERSYSB/usr/lpp/perl/lib/5.8.7/
Lloyd
- Original Message
From: Paul Gilmartin
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Thu, July 21, 2011 9:51:22 AM
Subject: Perl (was: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 08:51:22 -0500 Paul Gilmartin wrote:
> Has anyone tried compiling it with the ASCII compiler switch (and
> XPLINK) and relying on code page autoconversion? Would this
> even be useful? What is the intrinsic code page for Perl? UTF-8?
> Is this within autoconversion's capabil
On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 21:03:51 -0400, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
>
>Well, pipes are sometimes useful.
>
Amen.
>Perl is better than Rexx for parsing. Unfortunately, no current Perl
>is available for MVS due to EBCDIC-Unicode conflicts.
>
Has anyone tried compiling it with the ASCII compiler swi
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